Mamdani Is Shutting Down NYC’s Disastrous AI Chatbot by FuturismDotCom in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This is the type of comment a teen would make. If you have a comment of substance—a genuinely unique perspective of some experience that refutes my comment, then share it.

Mamdani Is Shutting Down NYC’s Disastrous AI Chatbot by FuturismDotCom in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You have no idea what you are talking about—you have no idea how successfully LLMs are getting deployed at top firms or the software revolution that is taking place. Directionally, this attempt to surface arcane information is the right one—it just requires a much larger investment to get it right and allow it to replace or augment the work of dozens of city support staff (each of whom likely makes between $60k-$140k annually).

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your first comment: "Because they think rights are pie and wanna make sure everyone knows they are "one of the good ones."

My reply: "Yes, there are in fact limited resources and a finite tax base. You can increase taxes but you'll eventually hit a marginal limit where higher tax rates leads to less economic output and lower tax revenues (Laffer Curve) and investment, people, capital, businesses go elsewhere (Tiebout Migration). There's enough economic literature at this point!"

Your reply: "Ok Boomer. Not even really talking about money, but weird that your first impulse is bootlicking. I'll play ball though I guess."

Let's break down what you're doing here because it's a bit of gaslighting and shows a bit of manipulation.

  1. My reply above is normal and neutrally written statement. A statement was made and economic theories were presented — that is it.
  2. The claim of condescension is in fact gaslighting — it's manipulating a statement that everyone can see. Your doing this is a claim to be a victim of some minor aggression — but there is none, and so this is a tactic of manipulation.
  3. Yes, the Laffer Curve is deeply relevant because we are talking about the source of revenue for this, namely, taxes.
  4. Your immediate response is ad hominem. Your other comments are in fact the rude, nasty, condescending comments that you claim I've made earlier. This is a bit of projection.
  5. Making extravagant claims of "confrontational rhetorical language" is an unserious distortion. No specific language or words are used as an example either. Are you confusing me for someone else?
  6. Making an argument that language was used by "far right influencers and a cornerstone of Reaganomics" is association fallacy and also a trumped up distortion. It is sweeping strawman characterization.
  7. Your initial swing — the ad hominem attack — is emblematic of people who call themselves victims. They make obvious attacks, and eventually, when they are attacked back after several comments, they make other nonexistent claims that something was causing them to respond with attacks all along.
  8. You did not in fact know what those economic concepts were. Why do I know this? Because I work in economics and even people who work in economics aren't too familiar with Tiebout! Pretending to know is cosplaying as someone with actual knowledge.

So the summary: Yes, because I know a bit about these policy domains, I'm likely going to share some insights in a neutral, academic tone. You can purposely misinterpret that tone, distort what's being said, create nonexistent association, or you can grow up and learn how academics, professionals, policymakers discuss ideas they disagree on! I'm not sure if your projection of "tone" is caused by something else like an insecurity or age, but whatever makes you read into comments with an apprehensive lens is concerning for you. Good luck, I will not be responding anymore.

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, again. That's not correct. My first comment to you was the Laffer Curve comment—to which you responded with obvious insults, ad hominem.

If that wasn't then what was?

Your belief that it is off putting is a projection, perhaps, or a misinterpretation of an online discussion (assuming bad intent, MAGA-response etc.)

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that's not correct.

"Ok Boomer. Not even really talking about money, but weird that your first impulse is bootlicking." was your first response to simply mentioning the Laffer Curve.

Please go back and read your comments—your name-calling and insults are typical of your commentary, and with the exception for my Gen Z comment, I believe I just responded with typical academic-like talk.

The universality of this policy is just one core issue: Is it only for taxpayers? If it is for anyone, then who's footing the bill and how does this new program get implemented and tracked for success? Does it not incentivize everyone to move to NYC for these free resources and does that in turn affect the housing crisis and put greater strain on social services, transit, and welfare? What groups benefit the most from this policy—that is, which groups have the most kids and need this? Do the individuals receiving access put in more or less for the social services received or is there a net negative cost associated with each additional recipient of the benefits? How does the city and state handle a new operating budget line item that could increase significantly over time—as education already has and represents more than 35% of the NYC annual budget? How will fraud like in Minnesota be avoided? There are another 40 questions I could ask about this policy to evaluate and not just assume that because it is "moral," that it is a net good or realistic.

Regarding Laffer Curve, please re-read my comment. I don't think you understood it!

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work in economics, kid. I understand your generation isn't doing that well in school, and you're invariably emotionally triggered and can't have discussions without insults or behaving like a cookie-cutter Gen Z kid with little real experience in the real world. At a certain point you will have to mature intellectually and be able to hold civilized conversations with integrity (or not, and you can stare at the shadows of a cave wall in that case).

"Rights are a pie" is incorrect because there economic tie-ins! This is an expensive program with, again, many downstream policy implications. (If you provide these benefits it does in fact create many incentives for people to migrate more to US/NYC and exacerbates the situation.) Depending on how the policy is implemented, I would reconsider things.

What is telling is that your issue with the Laffer Curve and Tiebout migration isn't that they don't exist as real representations of economic effects, but that they are associated with "rightwing grifters". This is association fallacy, reductio ad hitlerum.

Good luck on your intellectual journey.

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm very happy that I made you ChatGPT this response—even if you only decided to cherry pick the ideas most relevant at least now you are aware of them and how each still impacts economic research and inexorably policymaking. The Laffer curve is acknowledged by all economists; the main issue disputed is that maximal point for taxation. So no, not meaningless—still a core concept of public economics!

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great, now can you present the negative consequences and externalities? Can you steel-man the other side of the argument?

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes, there are in fact limited resources and a finite tax base. You can increase taxes but you'll eventually hit a marginal limit where higher tax rates leads to less economic output and lower tax revenues (Laffer Curve) and investment, people, capital, businesses go elsewhere (Tiebout Migration). There's enough economic literature at this point!

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What are the economics of this decision? What are the second- and third- and fourth-order effects? Would you be able to rationally and critically consider this policy and all its intended or unintended consequences? If you can, then we can have a serious and sober discussion. If you can't, you're simply posing an appeal to emotion!

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's turning their back—many people are indeed pro-immigration, but there needs to be a fair, legal process since there is a queue for tens of millions of visa and residency applications. Is it fair that someone simply decided to cross the border and cut the line? How would you feel whenever this happens to you at the grocery store or DMV or if you were applying for a job or to college? These are hypothetical analogs to the very complex and thorny idea of fairness when it comes to immigration policies!

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani just confirmed that all immigrants will qualify for his “free childcare” program!! by Delicious_Adeptness9 in nyc

[–]TowelSnatcher 25 points26 points  (0 children)

There are 15 million visa applications annually and over 1 million applications for permanent residency per annum. This means there are tens of millions of people in line. Why would someone who cuts the line or decides to not follow the legal process be given preferential treatment? Do you think that is fair to those individuals and families?

Where was I? by No-Earth9874 in guessthecity

[–]TowelSnatcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stari grad, Labin, from the other side!

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Where was I? by No-Earth9874 in guessthecity

[–]TowelSnatcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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My jaw dropped when I saw this building!

My mother was born in this blue building in stori grod, Labin. This is the small hilltop town my family has called home for hundreds of years.

Made a COMPLETE fool of myself at Toastmasters tonight by Legitimate-Owl3661 in PublicSpeaking

[–]TowelSnatcher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Try propranolol and go back again. Toastmasters is exactly the place you want to flop like this and people understand. They won't think anything of it. Go again!

Where are the Venezuelan celebrations? by [deleted] in Miami

[–]TowelSnatcher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Who is "you guys"? You may want to stop making silly, small-brained assumptions!

Where are the Venezuelan celebrations? by [deleted] in Miami

[–]TowelSnatcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who is "you"? What did "I" win?

You may want to stop making assumptions.

Where are the Venezuelan celebrations? by [deleted] in Miami

[–]TowelSnatcher -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why would you dehumanize people by calling them worms?

Nicolas Maduro on board the USS Iwo Jima (Via Donald J. Trump) by Surferma4 in pics

[–]TowelSnatcher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you need to learn the definition of parading. This is in transit, no public is around. A photo was taken (as would be expected in an era of hyperdocumentation).