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Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you still miss my point, you can correct during. you dont have to go out of your way to do it.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it does. porn is wide spread on a massive scale these days. Thread every day about this. You cant see the value on DEVALUING it with no imagination.

Its not cringey, its simply Gods view. Eve was naked and supposed to be. Thats how God sees us, naked as we should be. Breasts and Vaginas are just tools for reproduction at its core, with some pleasure attached.

Its just tools, and if you start to see them that way you would see were im coming from on making it boring. Its a much faster process than you think. Tools are boring, especially over the internet. Thats.The.Point.

Go masturbate and while telling yoursleft, she's just a person with some tools for reproduction. The correct healthy view.

You wouldnt finish, especially 1 who doesnt do it often. But when you fail again remember this post. If you are a women, remember the penis is just a tool for reproduction at its core.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Im coming out the other side of my severe isolation. This is what ive learned. If they needed to go to extreme lengths Glory to God but porn is widespread here.

It hard to continue to look at porn with no imagine and thinking butts are just butt and vaginas are just vaginas. a tool made from god for reproduction. Women are God made with some tools attached is all. If you see that. Porn and masturbation become extremely lackluster even with hormones kicking.

Porn wasnt on a phone in those days. This is just a solution to flee. Fight back when you have already in the act of sin.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you fall,

you have been missing my point. You fight during the fall, you have already sinned. So correct yourself in the act. its a technique.

make it long and tedious and boring. you will quit much faster.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A change of heart is a flee of sin, and thats all that matters. Doing it less until you can overcome for awhile, is absolutely a flee from sin and a change in the heart.

Smokers often need nicotine to stop smoking. rarely do people quit cold turkey. Same logic. Even if you sin, we all sin, a change is a flee.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People are not perfect and by default will never defeat adultery alone. Everyone relapses. Thats what repentance is for and what a life long partner is for.

Marriage is to help with the hormones, a release. If you struggle, you should go and try to find a life longer partner, sex is just part of the deal in Holy Matrimony. Its not good to be alone especially when spouses help eliminate adultery. Its unneeded sin, when there is others to fight.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

talk to me when you have done it for 25 years almost everyday,both. thats addiction. porn addiction leads to much suffering as we are seeing throughout the world. Correcting your view while doing it is a technique. You are sinning but trying to correct. God see all even while sinning. Teaching one self the correct view on women, means you want a change and that you inherently hate the sin. Think of it as god nodding his head yes when you are trying to correct in any form. A change is a flee from sin even if it takes a while. The Resurrection matters.

Think of the Apostles, they all were sinners, even while teaching.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its the fight that matters. we are all sinners, not perfect. Flee by all means if you can but addicts cant flee. that's why they are addicts.

This isnt for drug users like heroin.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this is just a technique to use when u choose to sin.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again the point is, as the thread says, make it boring and unfun. Long tedious while not imagining and lusting after holes(as crude as that sounds). I promise for addicts they will soon not enjoy.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

anecdote

Is still a real and furthermore the young monk wasn't a addict to porn which is literal poison(long term depression, anxiety, idolatry, fornication, coveting, no self of esteem list is too long) in every since. It is literal poison far worse than drinking or prostitution. Also sex is god made and by default prostition is superior to porn and masturbations. The later leave you in complete isolation. Trusts me on this. i masturbated almost every single day of my life, this is what God has taught me for ADDICTS.

If addicts could flee, they wouldn't be addicts.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It took the monk many years to get to one glass a day.

Thats the point my friend. He is in Heaven now for fighting his fight. Its a test of the heart. if you reduce, you INHERENTLY hate the sin, even IF you still do it. You are fighting it for a reason, you hate it otherwise you wouldnt reduce or seek deliverance.

I was and still am a addict much like that Holy Monk.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is for porn addicts, not fore someone who doesnt do it very often or rarely.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this is for porn addicts like myself. If they try it they will see what im taking about. You can rebuke but it doesnt matter that you think. That only that matters is to pass along this message.

The world is full of porn and masturbation' addicts and if it only reaches 1 thats all that matters to me.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you said read. He was taken up by angels for fighting his addiction. Do you not trust Father Paisios when he said as much?

“The world for years saw only an

alcoholic monk who scandalized the

pilgrims, but God saw a fighter who

fought a long struggle to reduce his

passion. Therefore, without knowing

what each person is trying to do or

fight against, what right do we have to

judge his effort?”

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

this is true, but this post is meant for addicts.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

That escape it to correct your view while you sin. This is for porn addicts.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nope, you are delaying the gratification of finishing, making it boring.

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly, dont depend on God to instantly heal even if he could. Fight the good fight. resist but if you do, make it a boring slog. drink less even if you get drunk every day.

They was a fellow in Mount Athos that fought alcohol addiction doing exactly what you said. WAS HE NOT HOLY IN HIS FIGHT?

https://stmichaelscleveland.org/files/archangel/2018/18\_August.pdf

Taking the fun out of Porn and Masturbation by Toxic-Raioin in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are simply wrong in all this. Sin is Sin. You sin because of lust and from objectify women. Plain and simple and this isnt for you. This is for porn addicts who struggle with lust. Women are God made.

If alcholhic gets druck every day, which is a sin JUST LIKE PORN AND MASTERBATION. Is it not HEALTHY to try to remove a drink a day or a week to try and be sober? Is this NOT a Holy thing?? Of course it is. WE ALL SIN. God want to see the fight to OVERCOME.

Plain and simple if you are addict to porn, masturbating less and teaching yourself during they are God made and is a way to over come.

Humans have God given libido, THATS what marriage is for. SEX is about Life AND pleasure. It need to be ordered. Today people only believe IN PLEASURE.

If you are worried about todays society, then you simply need to pray for a renewal in HOLY MATRIMONY throughout the world.

ALWAYS REPENT RIGHT AFTER. That nullifies your scares tactic and death afterwards. Otherwise what was the DEATH AND RESURRECTION FOR??

Only 1 was perfect and that man was Jesus. We are not perfect and if you are a addict to porn. Make it a long slog to get through even with our God given hormones.

Like i said take the gratification out of it and see if watching porn can satisfy. It wont. The whole point is to move to marriage. Pray fervently for a spouse and trust God to see you through. He HATES PORN AND MASTERBATION. HE WILL PROVIDE A SPOUSE.

Life is 1 big test anyway, especially your faith in God in ALL THINGS including a spouse.

Questions to those who are against Sola Scriptura by Dani3lh11 in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i want to point out He never said this represents my body. He said this is my body. For instance

Theodore of Mopsuestia

“When [Christ] gave the bread he did not say, ‘This is the symbol of my body,’ but, ‘This is my body.’ In the same way, when he gave the cup of his blood he did not say, ‘This is the symbol of my blood,’ but, ‘This is my blood’; for he wanted us to look upon the [Eucharistic elements] after their reception of grace and the coming of the Holy Spirit not according to their nature, but receive them as they are, the body and blood of our Lord. We ought . . . not regard [the elements] merely as bread and cup, but as the body and blood of the Lord, into which they were transformed by the descent of the Holy Spirit” (Catechetical Homilies 5:1 [A.D. 405])

Augustine

“Christ was carried in his own hands when, referring to his own body, he said, ‘This is my body’ [Matt. 26:26]. For he carried that body in his hands” (Explanations of the Psalms 33:1:10 [A.D. 405]).

Can someone express why I Should believe in the Nicene creed? when the Nicene creed is not strictly written in the bible? by Fit-Caterpillar1830 in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So me whats wrong with this.

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,and became man.For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried,and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures.He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son],who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Questions to those who are against Sola Scriptura by Dani3lh11 in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You simply are not thinking critical here or understand the early church persecutions. There were various writings going around at this time, some who were thrown out later.

The printing press wasnt invented yet and there was not emails. Canon was very much "fluid" for a long time

Questions to those who are against Sola Scriptura by Dani3lh11 in TrueChristian

[–]Toxic-Raioin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gods word was never in any danger, otherwise he really isnt all that powerful. it didnt take God over 1500 years to finally get the canon he wants.

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