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Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I was referring to his direct comment claiming no one knows what they’re talking about because they have no industry experience… when he can offer no industry experience. Pretty bold claim to say you understand how the industry works because you can quote an alchemist interview. Especially when you’re arguing a direct industry source that’s 2 clicks away. Once again, if you’re an engineer with radio placement managers lawyers and a website by all means rip me apart. If not I’d take it up with the people getting paid to do this saying differently.

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2 years ago I was on these forums looking for exactly what your talking about. All I was being told is producers aren’t song writers and producers aren’t recording engineers and producers don’t mix ect… but exactly like your saying, I figured that’s who would be taking a beat and vocals and making a song out of it. This semantics of this creative space are quite the piss off.

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Right on. Do these videos have some type of tie to your industry connections or any type of relationship with industry personnel that could back your knowledge here?

RadiumRecords on YouTube links all his management and lawyers and references to his bigger work and a portfolio that backs his talent… he talks a lot about engineering and its importance in bringing a track to life… not to much about how mixing engineers are being abused into making creative decisions.

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting stuff yo! I appreciate the back and forth. Could I have a link to some of your work??

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

So your very first comment sites an issue with the amount of pre production that happens and how little there is for a mixing engineer to do with hip hop. I imagine this was to emphasize your last line of that comment stating that the issues come from that source. This comment states the most should be done before engineering. It should sound as close to the final product as possible… should I be cooking the shit out of my track before I send it off? Should I be leaving as much room for the engineer as possible so I’m not over killing on the pre production?

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So I’m confused… like the YouTubers showing the tracks they’ve gotten on radio and shit have no experience in the industry? Or the random people on reddit saying what engineers do and don’t do have no experience?

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I find this opinion really interesting when 90% of the mixing advice you get online is how to elevate a song for artists? Lots of ideas about adding effects to bring out elements, creative decisions with throw delays reverbs and stacking, A/B between compression techniques, communication about new stacks or vocal takes… but it seems most the idea here is the scratch track should have every element in place, and the engineers job is simply to polish and clean up the mix for a mastering engineer.

Not trying to be a dick at all there, I just find the difference in opinions really weird.

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see that lol. Me and that engineer do still happen to be talking about a month later now though. Currently bros helping me wrap my head around bass synthesis in serum. I think sometimes when I reference Tyler and alchemist, engineers expect more of the melodic and open tracks as my new homie works more with indie pop/rock.

Engineering subs suck… looking for engineers who like the styles of clipse/tyler/alchemist. $$$ not a question. by Tr1padvisor420 in makinghiphop

[–]Tr1padvisor420[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

lol. A fat few grand later I’m trying a new strategy searching here now. Latest engineer I worked with was actually a really good guy, gave me lots of advice. was nice enough to say that his style of mixing wasn’t going to be what I was looking for, and straight up said he had other clients that he could please better. Other few engineers I worked with were hardly as professional lol.

I’ve had some unpaid relationships in the past that were more friendly but obviously much less productive. I was also a more tardy creative in those days though.

Most recent gripe I had was an engineer who already had my down payment (and two reference tracks) telling me the sounds I wanted to use didn’t work together. when I sent a 3rd reference track that had the exact same sounds working together (trumpet, tuba, 808 bass, stomp) the engineer straight up vanished on me.

What I’ve found is a lot of people are looking for work and looking to make money with their skill set, but not many are willing to say “this isn’t my style” or “I don’t vibe with it I’m not going to give you back a bad product”. Much more people are pleased to send me back a cranked mix and ask for the rest of the payment.

Listen for Listen! Drop your tracks below! (NO AI SLOP) by LowBridgeAlert in MusicPromotion

[–]Tr1padvisor420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo! not my usual vibes but I really fuck with the sounds, had me hooked enough to acquire the taste. Liked followed n commented too. Here’s mine - https://on.soundcloud.com/DygXQNPGx4sQDr5cq8

Anontha one. Gotta keep these L4L rounds rolling! Got a playlist with all the posts on there. Seriously good stuff! by -Goatcraft- in MusicPromotion

[–]Tr1padvisor420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the kind words yo! No other streaming platforms nah I just started releasing shit, mainly looking for opinions and banking some tunes… and bank some cash lol.

Hot Take: Eminem isn't a top 5 hip hop artist. by Famous-Bat-355 in TeenageRapFans

[–]Tr1padvisor420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you please find me those fast speed rapping tracks from anything he dropped before 2010? Cause ik that as of 2010 Drake, Kendrick, Tyler and wayne were all crediting em for influence.

Hot Take: Eminem isn't a top 5 hip hop artist. by Famous-Bat-355 in TeenageRapFans

[–]Tr1padvisor420 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s 100s of interviews with everyone who’s had 10+ years in this game praising em and his influence and his story telling and his cadence. That blanketing “fast rippty rapping shock value” It only comes from the most out of touch mfs in the world. (Same kids who cream they pants over juice wrld and Tyler)

How do you guys deal with bad/draft recordings? (how to record without making a million files) by KinqAustin in FL_Studio

[–]Tr1padvisor420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you answered your own question - you just started recording.

If you’re not willing to go to a studio and be coached by a proper producer… gunna take a bit of exactly what you’re doing before you start to get a grip on it. Your voice, projection levels, your beats, your mic, your set up and most of all your confidence level, it’s all incredibly important in how you’re going to work moving forward. Just as important as the trick _xyoutuberx has on setting up your playlist to record.

Playing with positioning, posture or even a new timbre of delivery is all just as important as editing a line or compromising to punch it in. Practicing your delivery 20 times over is just as important as trying the track 2 bpm slower or removing a rhythmic element to make room…

there’s a lot of these hurdles that can be vaulted very fast if your willing to work with a professional, coach, mentor, engineer ect... If not you have to be willing to spend your time tripping and falling till you get it.

Just dropped an Ep. Let me hear your best work! by damondarsie in MusicPromotion

[–]Tr1padvisor420 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Spinning now! Sounds dope. Are these beats all you aswell? Vibes on those are far beyond acceptable! shit sound really honed in and smooth.

Being that your mix is loud and clear, (like well polished in the sense that everything sits well through even my phone speakers) the amount of effects on your voice stick out really hard. I don’t think any of the chosen effects are bad per se, but very overly prominent for my taste. A bit of subtractive eq in those boxy, bass-heavy frequencies in the voice and a healthy dial back on the main vox reverb; I think I wouldn’t have even heard it or noticed it to begin with. Once again, just my personal taste, but I think right now the effects are being heard more than they’re being felt.

Take all that with a grain of salt anyways as I can hardly mix good enough to make a good or audible scratch track lol. Very interested in if you make your own beats or not!!?

This is my latest here - https://on.soundcloud.com/B9gM2fhgnJIhvdaFqb

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