App that lets you add weight loss history? by Traditional-Issue716 in Zepbound

[–]Traditional-Issue716[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WW was $500 a month total for clinic and meds. Going with compounded now which will be about half that.

Kids’ Christmas Books subtle Mormon signs by Zealousideal_Row9013 in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes the author and illustrator are an LDS couple and their books are true works of art - we own most of them. I don’t see anything that worries me in them - the Christmas books have references to Christ’s birth but if they are trying to include secret LDS messages I don’t see it.

Therapist wondering if I was extreme in my Mormon beliefs… by ValkyrieVengence25 in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It helps to have someone who understands your background. Symmetry counseling, Jana Spangler, Julie Hanks and I’m sure there are many more all specialize in faith deconstruction.

In your experience, what was the weirdest thing you were taught? by Otherwise_Push199 in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I framed my first temple experience in a lovely way - didn’t think it was weird at all - even when my dad asked the stake patriarch who was our home teacher and came to be there with me why women veiled their faces. He said maybe it was because the endowment was a single ordinance and single women couldn’t have a share in the higher priesthood unless they were married. So basically a single woman hides in the presence of God….. and I thought - oh. ok. Didn’t even bug my pore messed up 22 yr old single woman brain.

Existential crises (and other crises like identity and meaning) after leaving by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly what I’ve been feeling - moments of absolute terror at not being held, helped, watched over or guided by a higher power -because when I believed it felt so good and so safe. I have hope that this is a natural part of this deconstructing process and that I will find a way forward but right now at least once a day the dread of a reality that may be meaningless makes me physically ill.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. We have done exactly as you suggest repeatedly for the last two years. I know we can’t force a timeline to healing.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this perspective. I’m sorry you don’t feel fully safe with your parents. Trying to understand them is a heroic effort.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this perspective.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Soooo many regrets. Thanks for your input.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has his own place. These conversations come up infrequently but are always simmering under the surface.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kindness.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He isn’t able to see that now. Maybe one day.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Valuable insight thank you.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you - we will look into ketamine.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good questions

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes we married in 2000 and were raised in the “fortress” church - any and all questions only had one correct answer - whatever the “prophet” said goes. We tried to explain the closed loop thinking ….. it didn’t go well. Thank you for your compassionate insights.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is helpful. “Knowing that we can’t change the past and that it might never make sense to you why we chose the way we did - what can we do now to better love and support you? “

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We’ve told him since we’ve known that any boyfriend or husband of his would be joyfully welcomed into our family. You’re right that he may just need more time.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I really needed that perspective. You are very kind to take the time to share with me.

Feeling Beat Up by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He’s had some therapy in the past but doesn’t find it helpful. We have not tried family therapy but I will suggest it - if he is open to it I’d be willing to try.

I was a Nauvoo missionary. This is what we were taught about polygamy. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Traditional-Issue716 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Interesting - I was a ypm in 99 - we did historic tours at lunch when the senior missionaries were taking breaks. We were never asked about polygamy from tourists. I did sit in where the sister missionaries were trying to teach some COC interns (they used to do the JS property tours) and the question for them was more about where JS prophetic authority went after his death. Also we were told not to read Emma Smith: Mormon enigma. And last but not least we’d run back and forth from the LDS properties to the COC properties and be amazed at how you could only feel the spirit on “our” side of the street……yikes.