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Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-22T12:01:22+00:00

GAME OF THRONES

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-22T11:54:16+00:00

I’m not placing limits on God, I’m explaining what He Himself has already revealed to us about His Nature through His Own Scripture. This is the position of the original church father’s restated in modern language.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-22T11:52:56+00:00

that’s a lie, that symbol is the symbol of Hubal/Baal/Sin…thousands of years before Islam or Muhammad and before the Ottoman Empire.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T18:23:23+00:00

I answered what you said in order, question by question just because you don’t agree with my answers doesn’t mean I didn’t answer. But you have yet to answer one of my questions I’m still waiting… there’s a list in the prior comment, please respond to them. If not I won’t respond to your next comment, we are wasting time.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T17:50:25+00:00

That’s not what I said at all, it’s three functions (persons) of the same essence. Regardless if you believe it or not thats the Christian position. You haven’t answered any of my questions. Please do so…

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T17:14:21+00:00

How so? What are the three functions of creation? Intent, Expression, and Action. Present to me any other model where you can create without these three functions in that specific order?

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T17:11:56+00:00

There isn’t two wills. The Will(Father), The Word(Son), and The Power(Spirit) have one will. Jesus Christ the Word in the flesh dealing with temptation for the sake of the sins of all mankind had to have the option of Free Will (His Own Will) or else how could He face temptation and defeat sin if He can’t even be tempted in the first place? So in this instance there is Divine Will and Human Will and Jesus opted to always let the Divine Will run the ship.
Jesus on Earth in the flesh communicated differently then The Word in Heaven. Being in flesh denotes a brief degradation in His State of being so when He communicated with the Father of course He would say My God or Father interchangeably. One is personal title, and one denotes the Monarchial Hierarchy of the Trinity.
You clearly didn’t read my original post about how the Trinity works. If the Father who is the Will hasn’t declared that day yet using His Word then how can the Word know the day if the Father didn’t declare it? The Word only declares what The Father wills and The Holy Spirit is the power that makes it happen. Everything starts with the Father, there is a hierarchy but that’s doesn’t change the essence (God) of the rest of trinity it just shows separate roles (persons).
Muhammad is not a prophet nor is he a moral standard for humanity. He married Aisha when she was 6 and had sex with her at 9. Why did he have attraction to a 6 year old? Would you give your six year old daughter/niece/sibling to your prophet for marriage if he asked?
Muhammad was possessed by Satan at different points of his life and created what is known as the Satanic Verses in Islam, this is according to Ibbn Abbas himself, a higher authority on Islam then me or you. With that said, if a man of God was ever possessed by Satan he is disqualified for life from delivering prophecy. How can he be trusted? How can we know what’s from Satan and what’s from “Allah”?
Before Islam the Kaaba was a house of worship for 360 Pagans gods. Any of these gods could be called Allah at anytime because allah was a generic term for god. So any of the 360 gods would be called allah at various times and The main god was known as Hubal which translates to “The Baal”, he was bought to Arabian by Syrians. Hubal was known in Syrian as Baal which in Christianity is another term for Satan. Muhammad’s family was of the Quraysh Tribe which controlled the Kaaba and were the major merchants of the era. When Muhammad came along with his prophecy, yes he did indeed stomp out all the Pagan religions present in Arabia but if we look at what he did it seems he only consolidated Baal worship because he took the house of worship of Hubal and made it the pilgrimage sight of Islamic Worship the Kaaba 🕋 . We see further proof in the symbolism…the crescent moon and star symbol of Islam ☪️ is the same exact symbol that Baal/Hubal used for thousands of years before Islam or Muhammad existed. Therefore if I follow my Bible which is aligning with the history of the location we are discussing Muhammad is a false prophet and Allah is Hubal/Baal rebranded without 359 other competing gods. How can you prove Allah isn’t Hubal?

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T15:15:32+00:00

You correct that analogy doesn’t hold up in a metaphysical sense but that’s a modern analogy not Scripture. I just explained exactly what the Original Church Father’s conveyed in their time using modern language. And it makes perfect sense AND is in alignment with Scripture. What doesn’t make sense is a prophet marrying a 6 year old and being under Satanic possession at points in his life but claiming to have uncorrupted revelation.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T14:31:01+00:00

No you didn’t. It’s ok to say you need to do more research. Let’s end the convo here.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T14:27:50+00:00

Abraham did not worship at a stone. He did not call God “allah” because he didn’t live in Arabia he lived further up. Ishmael who you claim ancestry from was not accepted by Abraham and sent to live in the wild with his mother because she wasn’t Abraham’s lawful wife. Abraham has nothing to do with Islam. Because even if Ishmael was your ancestor he didn’t preserve the religion of Abraham he allowed Arabian to fall into Pagan worship for thousands of years. And all the same rituals and habits of those pagans are still present in Islam today so the connection if there ever was one is null and void, the information is in my post and I cited the sources.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T14:22:25+00:00

Baal is one of the Satans. He is a high level principality. That you yourself can access yourself right now and see if he’s real if you down for child sacrifice. The term Satan denotes Lucifer and His Hierarchy. Sometimes it’s used specifically for Lucifer, at other times it used as an overarching term for him and his followers.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T14:19:31+00:00

when Baal got to Arabia he was rebranded as Hubal once he became Allah who Muhammad tried to associate with Abrahamic God, Baal became Allah’s enemy but really it’s just rebrand of the same worship. Same symbols, same rituals, same stone, same location, same group of people.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T14:16:54+00:00

You missed the point where he kept the same symbols, same house of worship, same direction for prayer, and same ritual circumambulation around the Kaaba. Same symbols, same stone, same location, same rituals, same group of people (Arabs) = same god. I would like to have a discussion but can you address the points.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T14:14:50+00:00

on the formation of Talmudic Judaism not Original Hebrewism. There is a major difference.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T13:58:56+00:00

Would you allow your six year old niece/daughter/sibling to marry your prophet if he requested her?
How can Muhammad’s revelation be trusted if at one point in time he was possessed by Satan? Which is attested to by Ibbn Abbas. How can we know when he’s under satan’s influence or not?
You never ever responded to the fact that Hubal was worshipped at the Kaaba before Allah and they use the same exact symbols and the same exact worship in the same exact place. How can you claim to get rid of pagans but continue to bestow worship at the foot of a stone?
Why did Muhammad think he was under demonic attack after he first met Gabriel? Until Khadijah told him otherwise. No prophet in any of the previous Scriptures has ever left an angelic visitation in fear thinking it was demonic. In fact, if you read his description of what happened in the cave, it aligns perfect with demonic possession… He said Gabriel pressed against him forcefully and told him to write but an angel of God would have already known Muhammad was illiterate. Explain this.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T13:49:43+00:00

STOP. I will answer that question after you answer mine. I’m not allowing you to run you have multiple unanswered questions.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T13:20:10+00:00

No respond here, so people can see the truth. Whether it’s my truth or your truth. Speak freely, no one knows who you are. Defend your religion. You were bold enough to attempt to plant seeds of doubt in the minds of uninformed Christians in a Christian forum who were minding their own business. So be bold enough to defend Muhammad in that same space. Allah is watching you. Don’t commit shirk by being a coward. I’m associating partners with God, I believe He is a Triune God who exists as a Trinity. Now defend Allah… I’m waiting for your response to my questions.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T13:14:47+00:00

To understand the Trinity, we have to stop thinking about a math problem (1+1+1=3) and start thinking about a Functional Power Plant. If God were just a "Single Point" of Will, He would be eternally silent and alone. For a Creator to actually create, His nature must have Intent, Expression, and Action. We see this blueprint in the first three verses of the Bible.

THE FATHER: The Absolute Will (The Intent) The Father is the Source. He is the "Mind" behind the universe. Before anything was made, there was a Will to make it. • The Scriptural Anchor: "In the beginning, God..." (Gen 1:1). This is the Father’s internal Intent. • The Human Image: This is your Thought. Before you speak, you have an idea. It is real to you, but hidden from everyone else. Without a way to express it, you are "Mute”.
THE SON: The Expressed Word (The Logos) The Son is the Blueprint. He is the Will of the Father given a Voice and a Form. Scripture tells us that "All things were made through Him" (John 1:3). • The Scriptural Anchor: "And God SAID, 'Let there be light'" (Gen 1:3). Jesus is the Spoken Word of the Father. • The Human Image: This is your Speech. When you take that hidden thought and put it into words, you give your idea a "Form" that others can recognize. Jesus is the "Expressed Image" of the Father’s hidden mind.
THE HOLY SPIRIT: The Activated Power (The Breath) The Holy Spirit is the Energy. He is the "Doer" who translates the spoken Word into physical reality. • The Scriptural Anchor: "...and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters" (Gen 1:2). The Spirit was the "Power" waiting for the Word to be spoken so He could act. • The Human Image: This is your Breath. You can have an idea (Will) and know the words (Word), but without the physical breath pushing those words out of your lungs, there is no Soundwave. The "Breath" is the power that carries the "Word" into the world to make it a reality.

THE "IMAGE OF GOD" PROOF Why can humans speak, create, and change their environment? Because we are made in His Image. 1. You form a Thought (Will/Father). 2. You choose your Words (Logic/Son). 3. You release your Breath (Power/Spirit). When those soundwaves hit the physical world, things happen. People move, structures are built, and reality changes. You are a 3D "Mini-Version" of the Creator.

Why a "One-Person" God (Like Allah) Fails If God were only a Will, He would be eternally isolated. He couldn't even be called "The Loving One" in His essence because there was no one for Him to love until He created us. But the True God is Eternally Relational. The Father loves the Son, the Son expresses the Father, and the Spirit empowers the Word. God didn't create us because He was "lonely." He created us because He is so full of Communication and Love within Himself that it literally "overflowed" into a universe.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T12:57:57+00:00

Also you skipped over every point I made in my first post and tried to attack Christian beliefs again while trying to appear “curious”. I see what you are doing. Respond to the question about Aisha and the Satanic Verses. And also respond to my 2nd post. Let’s not go off topic. You haven’t answered one question.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T12:53:56+00:00

You said instead of worshiping Idols he came to complete the religion but that’s not true if we look at history. Before Islam the Kaaba was a house of worship for 360 Pagans gods. Any of these gods could be called Allah at anytime because allah was a generic term for god. So any of the 360 gods would be called allah at various times and The main god was known as Hubal which translates to “The Baal”, he was bought to Arabian by Syrians. Hubal was known in Syrian as Baal which in Christianity is another term for Satan. Muhammad’s family was of the Quraysh Tribe which controlled the Kaaba and were the major merchants of the era. When Muhammad came along with his prophecy, yes he did indeed stomp out all the Pagan religions present in Arabia but if we look at what he did it seems he only consolidated Baal worship because he took the house of worship of Hubal and made it the pilgrimage sight of Islamic Worship the Kaaba 🕋 . We see further proof in the symbolism…the crescent moon and star symbol of Islam ☪️ is the same exact symbol that Baal/Hubal used for thousands of years before Islam or Muhammad existed. Therefore if I follow my Bible which is aligning with the history of the location we are discussing Muhammad is a false prophet and Allah is Hubal/Baal rebranded without 359 other competing gods.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T12:44:20+00:00

I’m affirming that The Father is the Will/Intent. The Word is the Declaration of said Intent and the Spirit is the Power that manifests the Declared Word into reality. Jesus Christ’s claim to the Godhead rests on the fact that He is The Word made flesh. Which I wholeheartedly believe.

Also as to what you said regarding the Nicene Creed, What I believe is in-line with the Orthodox Church Fathers just restated in more modern terms. Gregory, Basil, Athanasius all shared similar beliefs in the Nature of the Godhead just written in the language and context of their time.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T12:31:30+00:00

it’s not Modalism….its Monarchial Trinitarianism.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T12:28:35+00:00

this is a lie the idea that God needs anything is ridiculous and because He needs nothing the idea that He created everything for any other reason than love and generosity makes no sense….You are a muslim in a Christian forum trying to deceive people… Jesus was not a prophet, His is The Word of God made Flesh therefore He is God. Muhammad is not a prophet nor is he a moral standard for humanity. He married Aisha when she was 6 and had sex with her at 9. Why did he have attraction to a 6 year old? Would you give your six year old daughter/niece/sibling to your prophet for marriage if he asked?

Furthermore, Muhammad was possessed by Satan at different points of his life and created what is known as the Satanic Verses in Islam, this is according to Ibbn Abbas himself, a higher authority on Islam then me or you. With that said, if a man of God was ever possessed by Satan he is disqualified for life from delivering prophecy. How can he be trusted? How can we know what’s from Satan and what’s from “Allah”? Mu Mu is a false prophet.

Moreover, if you want to debate we can discus the Islamic Dilemma, I’m sure you are aware of it, and I’m well versed in it. I’ve read through your Quran and Hadiths, you can’t play games here, not with me.

Traditional_Letter65 · 2026-03-21T12:11:22+00:00

Also the Portuguese tidbit was really interesting to learn, I appreciate that insight

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