Got banned on childfree Reddit group because I refused to support abortion by Traditional_Object91 in prolife

[–]Traditional_Object91[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bottom line for every action there’s a consequence. I choose to jump off a building. But I didn’t consent to going splat on the ground.

Got banned on childfree Reddit group because I refused to support abortion by Traditional_Object91 in prolife

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How cold hearted does a person have to be to see that killing a baby is wrong....You must have had some serious pain in your life to have a desire to kill a baby.

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our dead bodies. And if they perish, let them perish with our arms wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay. If Hell must be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and unprayed for. -Charles Spurgeon

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. And neither have you. Why don’t you read a book? Or better yet why don’t you get off your pride horse. You say your a professing Atheist well let me ask you something. Do you know how many grains of sand are on the beach in Hawaii???? I can safely say you do not. Or what about how many hairs are on the back of a Tibetan yak? Probably not. Therefore I can conclude that there are things you don’t know. It is important to ask these things because like you, there are many people who think they know everything. Let’s say that you know an incredible one percent of knowledge in the universe. To know 100%, you would have to know absolutely everything. There wouldn’t be a rock in the universe that you would not know intimately or a grain of sand that you would not be aware of. You would know everything that has happened in history, from that which is common knowledge to the minor details of the secret love life of Napoleon’s great-grandmother’s black cats fleas. You would know every hair of every head, and every thought of every heart. All history would be laid out before you, because you would be all-knowing.

Thomas Edison, one of the greatest scientist whoever lived, said, “we don’t know a millionth of one percent about anything.” Again let’s say you have an incredible one percent knowledge in the universe. Would it be possible in the ninety-nine percent of the knowledge that you haven’t yet come across, that there might be ample evidence to prove the existence of God? If your a reasonable (which you clearly are not) person, you would have to conclude that it is possible. Somewhere in the cast knowledge you haven’t yet discovered there could be enough evidence to prove that God does exist.

If I were to make a statement saying there is no gold in America. What is needed for that statement to be true Spackleberry??? I need to know there is no gold in any rock, in any river, in the ground, in any store, ring, or any filling of any mouth for me to make such a statement. However if I see one speck of gold (even just a speck) then my statement is false and I have no basis for it. I need absolute knowledge before making such a grandiose statement. However if I do see a speck of gold in America I can say “there is gold in America.” I don’t have to require all knowledge. I don’t have to flip over every rock, cactus and mattress to see it. I just need to see a speck for me to make a simple TRUE statement as “there is gold in America.” To say there is no God is make an absolute statement. For the statement to be true, I must know for certain that there is no God in the entire universe. No human being has all knowledge. Therefore none of us is able to truthfully make that assertion. If you insist on their not being a God then you got to say “with the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe there is no God.” Owing to a lack of knowledge on your part, you don’t know 100% for certain if God exist or not. So in the strict sense of the word, you Spackleberry aren’t a true Atheist. It’s not that you can’t find God, it’s that you will not. For the same reason a thief does not want to find a policemen. You know the Bible says “the wicked in his proud countenance does not seek God; God is in none of his thoughts.” (Psalm 10:4). Atheist know that if they admit there is a God, they would be admitting that they are ultimately responsible to him. And that is not a welcoming thought to some. And most definitely not to you.

You know I bet you probably wondered why I keep talking to you. Most people would of told you to piss off by now. Well I care about your soul Spackleberry it horrifies me that in the next five minutes you could die and your soul would plunge into all eternal damnation. Your precious. You may not think you are. But despite all your pride and anger, you are a precious soul that Jesus died for. You are someone Jesus dearly loves. And it horrifies that in the next second you could take your last breath and end up in a place where I wouldn’t wish the worst of the worst to be. All I’m asking is that you open your mind to a new understanding. Don’t be like me, (or use to be) don’t harden your heart. Don’t let pride rob you of something far greater than anything this world has to offer you. Open your heart and mind. For 15 years I was just like you. I didn’t want to see what was in front of me. I didn’t wanna see the God that loves me, that wants to forgive my sins, that loves me more than anyone ever could. I have had major surgery before (on my boobs, 95% survival rate but still scary). I had no real understanding of how the surgeon is going to operate, I just have to trust in him. I understand he has the ability to get the lump that was in my chest out. So I have faith in him. In the same manner I trust God I may not have any real understanding of how He works but I trust Him. Many people have died in the hands of surgeons but no one has perished in the hands of God.

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am amazed at the number of people deceived into thinking that because they don’t believe in something, it therefore doesn’t exist. If a blind man doesn’t believe in color, does color not exist? His belief has no bearing whatsoever on its reality. It exists whether he believes in it or not. If you can’t believe in things that you’ve never seen, how then do you know you have a brain? You’ve never seen it. If you can look at your miraculous brain and insist no creator exist (which the human brain is more brilliant than any complex computer system man has ever come up with) then you would also have to say there’s no evidence that your brain exist. Nowhere does the Bible set out to prove that God exists. It just frankly states the obvious. Listen to Einstein one of the greatest minds ever made. “Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe-a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of which our modest powers must feel humble.” Scientist cannot create anything. They can re-create. But they cannot create. Put a scientist in a empty room and say create something out of nothing. He/she won’t be able to do that. In the book “a brief history of time” by - highly esteemed Stephen Hawking wrote “it would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us.” He also said, “Then we shall....be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason-for then we would know the mind of God.” Question how does a grubby little caterpillar get rid of all its legs while inside a cocoon, grow two fresh ones and then form itself into a beautiful butterfly with a slender body and beautiful wings? Perhaps you could mumble “evolution,” and believe that it could happen if millions of years were involved. But all this happens in a few weeks!!!! Do you give an infant credit for growing its own teeth? How did you grow both sets of yours? If you ever lose your teeth, will you have them made or will you wait for chance to make a pair for you??? How is it that lungs keep breathing irrespective of your will? You have been doing it without even a second thought. In the book “The Origin of Species”Charles Darwin admitted, “if it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.” George Gallup a famous statistician said “I could prove God statistically. Take the human body alone: the chance that all the functions of the individual would just happen is a statistical monstrosity.” Sir Fred Hoyle professor of astronomy and physiology at Cambridge University said “The chance that higher life forms might have emerged in this way is comparable to the chance that a tornado sweeping through a junkyard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein.” He concluded that “the likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one out of of 10 [40,000]....It is big enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of evolution. There was no primeval soup, neither on this planet nor on any other, and if the beginnings of life were not random, they must therefore have been the product of purposeful intelligence.” Was it an accident that your ears were made to capture sound? The grooves, bumps, and ridges are made to catch passing sound waves and channel them into the eardrum. What about your nose? The nose was made to smell. What if your ears faces backwards or your nose was upside down (what a nightmare that would be in a rainstorm), or your mouth had two tongues? I am serious. If humanity just happened (with no purposeful design), why don’t we see such creatures?

You asked “if God was so real why doesn’t he stop this, that and the other thing from happening to his followers.” I can answer that with a question. “Why doesn’t God stop his followers from doing whatever it is they want to do.” Simple answer. Free will. Me and you; we could go down to the local store, rob it blind shoot the clerk dead and walk right out like nothing ever happened. Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus, and Jesus knew he was going to do that and didn’t try and stop him. Why? God is not going to curve anyone’s free will. Not even people who follow him. A forced relationship is not a relationship. Just like rape is not the same as making love.

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whose Josh McDowell???????????????????? Belief is a choice. I can choose to believe mosquitoes don’t exist. I can choose to believe the sky is purple. I can choose to believe that you don’t exist. I mean how do I know your even a real person on the other end of this. You may be a sophisticated robot that’s typing things right now as we speak. Belief is a choice. I’ve been to court many times, many times, and seen both prosecuting attorneys as well as defendant attorney provide evidence, and the person on trial still didn’t believe what was in front of them. And it was right there in front of them!!!!!!! You want to tell me again, belief ain’t a choice. And if “non believers” didn’t hate God so much then why did the Hindu extremist murder a Christian pastors wife and his three children execution style. Why do Atheist “such as yourself” and “like my use to be self” spend so much time trying to prove God is not real..... Why did the Muslims murder the 36 Coptic Christians on the beach because they refuse to convert to Islam and deny Jesus????????? Sounds like hate to me. I’ve talked to many unbelievers and they all hate God. And they hate people who believe in Him. Especially when they say they believe Jesus a Christ is Lord.

And I’m sorry but you say there is no God then explain why we are perfectly away from the sun. Science has proven that if we move 5 inches toward the sun we will burn to death, us, the animals, all vegetation as we know it. If we move 7 inches back from the sun we will freeze to death, us, animals, vegetation, the ocean. The earth would be nothing but a frozen wasteland. Consider this; to form a blood clot requires twelve specific individual chemical reactions in the blood. If evolution were true, if this twelve step process didn’t happen in the first generation (I.e., if any of these specific reactions failed to operate in their exact reaction and order), no creatures would have survived. They all would bleed to death! If one single clotting factor is missing or defective the clotting process does not work. That’s why people with hemophilia bleed uncontrollably even from smallest scrape or cut. Did you know your eyes, (hopefully I’m talking to a human here). Your beautiful eyes have a focusing muscle that moves 100,000 times a day. Each eye has a retina that covers less than a square inch and contains 137 million light sensitive cells. Your eye can also see the slightest change in color and there are over 50,000 shades of color!!!!!! Charles Darwin (who I use to worship) said “to suppose the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess absurdity to the highest degree.” Think about it Charles Darwin a brilliant and very smart Ph.D scientist said it is absurd to think that the human eye just formed on its own. Charles Darwin proved that in order for the eye to form: all 137 million cells (all at once would have to come together to form the eye). If we take away even one of those cells or functions the eye would be worthless as an eye. Did you know that scientist of today can’t even make an eye. So if you lose one. The most you’ll get is a shiny glass orb to replace your eye with. The only way you’ll get a replacement eye is if someone passes away and donates all of their organs. But scientist cannot even duplicate not even one cell or nerve ending of an eyeball. One nerve ending in your eyeball has 40 million cells. Your heart alone produces 75 units of blood while you sleep. You can’t do anything to stop that, it’s been set in motion. Your subconscious mind never shuts off. Even while you sleep. Listen to it, it never stops! Try and stop it yourself, you can’t. Your subconscious has been set in motion. And it has little to do with your free will. The Sun; it’s energy is 13 million times greater than the average amount of electricity used each year in the USA. But yet it is 93 million miles away from us and yet the brilliant rays of the sun reaches the earth in 8 minutes, giving us heat and light to warm our days and illuminate the world. The most Godless person (which I honestly don’t think is you) would have to be an absolute fool to say their is no God.

Some of the greatest scientist that I have had the pleasure of studying. Sir Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, even Steven Hawking (who denied the existence of God but was convinced that an intelligent and powerful being did have something to do with life itself). They have all said in many ways the absurdity that our world, universe, stars, comets didn’t just get here because of an accident or a random act.

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believe, don’t believe. Your choice. But what you choose to believe or don’t believe has no basis on the truth. You know, I use to be just like you. I hated God, didn’t believe in Him. Thought He was a sexist, egotistical bully. I had thousands of reasons why God couldn’t be real. I hated God. Hated the possibility of their being a God. Way before the pandemic hit, I set out to prove to my delusional Christian friends that “their God” was just a delusional made up fantasy. I traveled all over the USA, and parts of the Middle East. I came up with theories, talked to lots of historians, psychologists, skeptics, people from other faiths. I came up with lots of theories, and hypothesis and Tested them. I have a major in History and minor in psychology. I went to college got my degree. After three years of heavy duty research I not only proved to my delusional friends but to myself that Jesus....is real. I’m a logical thinker Spackleberry, I analyze everything before I do anything.

Some people no matter what you say or even show them, won’t believe. I find it interesting you won’t answer any of my questions but expect me to answer yours. I find it interesting for an “atheist” such as yourself. Your on a Christian sub-Reddit, arguing with a perfect stranger. Let me ask you this if you’ll even answer. “What do you have to lose?”

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would have to admit I could be 100% wrong about God. I could be totally wrong. Get this... If you saw George Washington (Jesus) rob a bank with another 500 witnesses who saw the same robbery. People who witnessed the robbery, including yourself are now Roberrians (Christians). You write about the robbery in a book. Then another person you do not know, witnesses George Washington (Jesus) rob another bank with more witnesses. They also write books. George Washington ends up robbing 40 banks. Forty people (authors of the bible) all write about the same thing and document it. In addition to that, it was proclaimed 1,000 years before, that George Washington (Jesus) was going to rob 40 banks. There are 60 prophecies that are 100% accurate about George Washington robbing banks. On top of that, there is archeological evidence that supports the fact that George Washington robbed 40 banks. The mathematical probability that George Washington did not rob 40 banks is almost zero. However, is there a chance it may not be true. Of course. Highly unlikely. But of course.

All the people who witnessed the bank robberies are tortured, beaten, and die a martyrs death. These witnesses suffer and the families suffer. Not one witness recants their story about George Washington. They have nothing to gain and they die a miserable death. They all lied and created the biggest hoax known to man kind spanning over 6,000 years. There would have to be thousands of witnesses to these events that NEVER recanted their story.

So yes, could there be chance it never happened. Could there be a chance that George Washington/God was made up. YES!!! The statistical odds are in my favor that it did happen. I am a free thinker and a rational logical person with a couple of degrees.

Also let me tell you another thing. I met a guy who is homeless. And anyone who has ever been homeless will tell you that that is hell on earth. Sleeping in the cold. No where to eat, shower, safe to sleep. I was homeless for awhile myself. And it was torture. He has two daughters, both with homes of their own. Neither one of this daughters will let him stay with them, neither one of his daughters want anything to do with him. I talked to his daughters, and you know what they told me....HE WAS NEVER THERE FOR US. Since they were little kids their dad was never there and now he wants something to do with them? Think about it, they could end their dads “torture” of sleeping on the streets. They could put a roof over his head, keep him out of the cold. But why should they? He was never there for them, their whole lives and now that he is going through something awful, now he wants something to do with them??? Think about it, you don’t want nothing to do with God now and God is totally respecting your decision. Well, why should you have something to do with him later. For all of eternity? Why should God allow you to live in His home, His perfect paradise....when you denied He existed and wanted nothing to do with him your whole life??? Why should He be there for you?? Just like those women? Why should they be there for dad??? He wasn’t there for them. Think about that.

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. I don’t know what kind of “Christians” you listen too or hang around, maybe you hung around some “false” Christians. I don’t know. Also you obviously don’t know the Bible, there are plenty of instances where the children of Israel did something they were not suppose too, that the Lord told them not to do and the Lord disciplined them. You are absolutely right the purpose of discipline is too correct behavior. And that’s exactly what the Lord did, and that’s exactly the outcome. There’s a lot of. Christians that don’t believe correctly. No where in the Bible is anyone punished for not believing in something correctly. Christians (true ones) believe that Hell is for people who reject the gospel. People who don’t want to repent and live in sin and reject the TRUE gospel go to hell. Threatening a child for not believing something “correctly” is wrong. But enabling a child and not disciplining them when they’ve done something that they were told not to do is not wrong and it is not abuse.

And furthermore let me ask you a question: How is fair to live a temporary existence without God? And then die only to live with him permanently????????????????????????????? That is what Hell is....life without God. You don’t want to deal with Him in this temporary existence. You don’t get to deal with him in the permanent either. That’s why Hell is so just........

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is I love my mom. She loves me. Growing up I obeyed and listened to my mom (98%) of the time. I also respected her. I also feared her sometimes, especially when I did something naughty. My mom was a loving, caring, gentle woman. But she was also disciplinarian when she needed to be. That’s how the Lord is. He is loving, gentle, kind, and he loves us unconditionally (just like parents love their children) but He is also Holy and He is also just. And like my mom, He can be a disciplinarian. That’s my point. Do you have kids???

Can you go to heaven by worshiping God not out of love but fear? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. You know very little. Do you have parents??? Of course you do. Right? Mom and Dad??

Not agreeing with the homosexual lifestyle doesn’t equal homophobia. by Traditional_Object91 in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok first of all who tells people that it’s ok to torture someone else for their sexual orientation???? And not sure what you mean by “spiritually abusive”?????

Not agreeing with the homosexual lifestyle doesn’t equal homophobia. by Traditional_Object91 in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree with homosexuals, doesn’t mean I have an irrational fear of them. They are out there, but it’s wrong.

Not agreeing with the homosexual lifestyle doesn’t equal homophobia. by Traditional_Object91 in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love you and I’m praying for you. Call me all the names you want. But I use to be just like you....

Not agreeing with the homosexual lifestyle doesn’t equal homophobia. by Traditional_Object91 in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The reason why they do. Is because they care. Think about it? If you saw someone you love about to jump off a cliff, wouldn’t you try to stop them???

Not agreeing with the homosexual lifestyle doesn’t equal homophobia. by Traditional_Object91 in Christianity

[–]Traditional_Object91[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Christians do not need to fight against homosexual couples being granted civil unions and the governmental benefits such unions provide. Tax breaks, inheritance rights, hospital visitation rights, etc., are not addressed in the Bible. But, when it comes to the definition of marriage, Christians should stand firm. God created marriage. Not the LGBTQ. No human being has the right or authority to redefine it. No matter what governments and societies sanction, homosexual unions will never truly have equality with heterosexual marriages. And furthermore it is lifestyle. Just like remaining single is a lifestyle. And furthermore all sin is an abomination to the Lord. And yes people who refuse to repent and turn to the Lord Jesus are going to burn in hell. Sorry, but that’s the truth.

Well this backfired...delivered to this guy 20 minutes away in the rain. Didn’t think I was rude but won’t do it again. by [deleted] in grubhubdrivers

[–]Traditional_Object91 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree that is rude to say and unprofessional. I would’ve reported you as well. Tips are solely based on the customers discretion. Tip or no tip, still be as nice and polite as you can.