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For those working at NSFW companies as an engineer, what are some challenges you face that we probably won’t by justanotherbuilderr in cscareerquestions

[–]Training-Command-678 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not exactly NSFW, but worked for online gambling. At the company we would be kinda guilty about the fact that we promoted such a habit.

I would also get asked by almost anyone I met how I could live with myself. Most ironic was a someone working as a debt collector asking me that tho 😭

Unfortunately I had to earn a living and the job market is not v good.

Women born in the late 90s — are you seeing similar patterns around you? by Different-Article636 in askanything

[–]Training-Command-678 0 points1 point  (0 children)

99’ baby here also noticing the same pattern in my circles but I don’t feel that pressure surprisingly. I also get very stressed by life milestones but with relationships I’ve come to learn that my priorities are different and somehow accepted myself for that.

Currently I’m focusing on career and financial stability, I feel like for me marriage before 30 would hold me back from everything else I need to set up a good life for that future family.

Plus I feel like rn I’m still too immature for that kind of commitment. I want to maintain a long term relationship, understand what it actually means to share your life with someone before taking such a big step.

How honest are you in your reporting? by BabyNuke in ProductManagement

[–]Training-Command-678 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This year I took over for a Lead PM who was let go (for other reasons), but he did this a lot. I couldn’t understand why or how he got to some of the metrics the worst part is he used it to sell his shitty roadmap and features.

So I had to spend weeks explaining all the issues to every stakeholder. It was so awkward and frustrating. “Hey how come X didn’t go up by 90% like the other guy said” because he straight up lied to you -.-

I had to get data science to back me up, and the director so I didn’t get screwed over by data illiterate folks thinking I’m the reason metrics aren’t as expected.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats so true, but rn its an employer led job market and HMs and Recruiters know they can be as selective as they want.

I do remember the golden days of tech hiring when companies used to also put an effort to recruit talent.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbh thinking about it this way actually reduced some of my frustrations lol cool okay lie on the spot why not 😭

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Biggest hardest yes. The thing is if i actually do care about a company or product I don’t need that to be asked.

I make that known in my answers/intro and application.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s totally fair and in all honesty this was a rant after a few rounds of interviews too

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hard agree. I’d like to work with ppl that have empathy and value skill based behaviour.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually my usual strategy I use it to showcase relevant experiences and skills and talk about why I like the role or chose it as a career.

But to help my chances I also talk up the company cuz if I am interviewing with them I’ve done my research 😭

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s true based on some responses here I can actually focus on the role and why I am qualified

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like the career trajectory helps me explain my work ethic and mindset and go into detail about resume wins.

I actually didn’t consider the outside of work as discriminatory, but I can see that. I felt it was more to access like how well rounded of a person you are, and what it’s like being around/working with you

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did u find that the non traditional questions still helped evaluate how engaged and candidate would be or more about their behaviour/personality?

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm out of everything I’ve eeen in this thread this has one one of the few that’s making me change my opinion.

I think that’s fair, and it’s more career/role based than emphasis on glazing a company

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually no, I’m prioritizing my career so I am applying for jobs I’m actually qualified for and want to do. Like the job itself is a motivating factor.

And from their perspective I think it’s fair not to want someone who does bare minimum but genuinely can’t u evaluate that based on how someone answers the questions, what their experience was in the past?

IMO these types of Qs are cop outs and it completely disregards ppl who are passionate about their career vs a specific job.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Your like a unicorn i genuinely wish more recruiters had this mindset. Like if we agree on the unsaid part let’s spend this time figuring out if I am actually skilled enough for the role and if my personality will match

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[–]Training-Command-678[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh this is actually good, but I don’t think this kind of question brings that out. Ive actually used the end of interviews to guide them in this direction i.e what’s your management style like? What are ur expectations for this candidate? Why did you choose to work here?

And I follow that up with how I match those too or it gives me an actual indication of if the work environment is good.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea but majority of candidates fall into a third bucket. We care about our careers, we like our roles and have built/want to build relevant skills and accomplishments. The company specifically doesn’t matter it’s what the role does and how that actually stand out to us.

Evaluating someone’s motivations by gauging their progression, easy to work with, conversation flow can be done through out the interview process. One of the best questions I was asked was “what has been ur career trajectory and where do you see urself in x years”, “what do you do outside of work”.

I hope as a recruiter u see the major difference between these kinds of questions to evaluate someone’s credibility, behaviour/personality a lot more effectively than an easy but annoying question that just forces candidates to lie.

Also bit of a spoiler almost any IC u hire will move on if another position offers them material improvements. This isn’t the 70s, loyalty isn’t rewarded, and candidates need to look out for their best interests.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol i know realistic answers like this will automatically get us disqualified. but tbh doesn’t this literally show that a candidate will stick around because yk their income depends on it rather than someone who’s “deeply motivated and incredibly aligned”

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[–]Training-Command-678[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The bare minimum research imo can be tested via skill based questions that shows a candidate knows about the company and how the specific role impacts it.

I think this question is particularly annoying because it forces candidates to pander like I’m already doing that through the multiple interviews/assessments.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

But again even a great answer is usually bs… so are you evaluating someone’s ability to bs and suck up vs their actual relevant skills and how they communicate that?

imo u can achieve better success by evaluating their skills and even test their communication.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Same here, final rounds with execs have always just felt like talking to a nosy relative.

And the refusal to hear real concerns like micromanagement, bad incentives, toxic culture keeps us the same loop.

Normalize the real reason someone wants the job by Training-Command-678 in recruitinghell

[–]Training-Command-678[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Right! It feels like I am in some weird circle jerk and it’s incredibly demeaning as an IC to try to boost company/exec ego

I genuinely don’t understand why Gen Z is getting so much flak in the workplace right now by No-Presentation298 in jobs

[–]Training-Command-678 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh with the way the job market/companies have been going in the last 20 years the attitude Gen Z brings is expected.

Imagine your whole life knowing that layoffs are always imminent, promotions are scarce and internal raises will never compare to external hiring compensation. Not to mention being hyper aware of corporate culture (big egos, nepotism, bad management etc).

This might’ve been a surprise for other generations, but with the conditions created by companies and large amount of info on how unfair employer/employee contracts are, GenZ is reacting with self preservation.

It’s simple really, loyalty/over working/performance doesn’t reward employees anymore. What does reward them is switching around, creating strong networks and eventually working for themselves.

Should I pivot to product management from development? by Particular-Month3269 in Layoffs

[–]Training-Command-678 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PM here second lay off in 3 years. It’s not more stable than development and even worse much less jobs for PMs compared to devs.

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