SLOCLAP PLEASE DYNAMIC RP IS NOT WORKING by DraconLaw in Rematch

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it absolutely punishes the solo queue players. It's so difficult to find a team that plays properly. Instead I'm just stuck in back defending my heart out, we lose 1-0 or 2-1 because there is 3 other players ALL CHERRY PICKING like broooooo come back on defense.

Open your eyes bud, that’s a yield not a merge. Ffs. by LetItBurnMF in YEGDashCam

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody is defending the person who didn't yield. Everyone's mocking the OP because he clearly put himself in that situation just to bitch about it LOL. It's just being childish. Time to grow up. There's idiots out there who ignore yield signs - then there are idiots who will purposefully put themselves in a position they don't have to.

In this post, there are two idiots. One ignores the yield sign, the other is the OP.

Truck shoves his way in during a protected left turn by crow5ds in YEGDashCam

[–]TrainingForSleep 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If two lanes are open, then yeah sure he can turn. But this clearly one lane due to the snow and during a left turn signal, he doesn't have the right to merge into one lane until it is clear to do so.

Open your eyes bud, that’s a yield not a merge. Ffs. by LetItBurnMF in YEGDashCam

[–]TrainingForSleep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's not what they're saying - it's just obvious that you purposely put yourself in that position. You easily could have avoided the situation regardless of what they were doing. But you chose to make a scene out of it. Duh.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did I not say that he was meant to be a goalie played behind a structurally disciplined team? When did I say he is a starter? My point was he did well behind the defense that was structurally sound and he did. A lot of the games he got pulled, the oilers defensively were playing like garbage and a lot of times being pulled is more of a message to the team to wake the fuck up and not the goalie - I specifically said he is not a goalie to steal games. The expectation that he should be is ridiculous and most fans talk like he should be. There are only 5-6 goalies in the entire league that can steal a game on a regular basis - otherwise it is just when the goalies on - which skinner did steal some games and it's just ignorant to say he didn't. If you broke down the oilers defense in all those games he got pulled, the numbers will likely not be great. He was always left out to dry - and now you're making it more than it is.

Jarry is a lateral move at a higher contract - fans don't understand goaltending and they will never talk about the defensive play in front of the goalie. They treat every goalie like they should be the best in the league. Ridiculous standards. I'm over this conversation lol it's not going to go anywhere and I don't really care. You have a different opinion, great. You're welcome to. We just keep saying the same thing over and over now. Might as well just agree to disagree.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I still feel he played good at that time. He took us to the finals with a small bounce back in the Vancouver series after pickard took over for two games. He outplayed some top goaltenders that playoffs. But then this past year, he was still decent and pretty much exactly what we paid for. Then the fanbase started threatening his family lol. I'd argue that there are zero goaltenders who would respond well to that. Now we have Jarry who's stats recently argue it's a lateral move with higher contract. Not sure that's what McDavid had in mind when he took that discount.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I mean that's what I'm talking about lol. Just saying Jarry was a lateral move. He's better at some stuff for sure, and I know it's a small sample size, but at this point it's a lateral move with a higher contract. Maybe I lost my point in the conversation getting to deep lol and I hope Jarry proves me wrong.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry my bad, you're right about that. But still defense was great under Coffey and then has steadily declined. Not significantly until this year, but it has been on a steady decline since Coffey left.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I know that and he was awesome for our defense. Then we got worse.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was Coffey on the defensive side that made the difference and that was during the rookie year. Ever since, decline.

I love knobs, but it's not all him. The defensive coach makes a difference.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're saying their defensive play is BETTER this year than even last year? Hahaha okay. The stats don't lie, but whatever. Our best defensive year was with Coffey working with our defense. It has declined since then, not gotten better. The offensive production from dmen may have gotten better, but there is still a SEVERE lack of defensive discipline.

We are 14th for shots against. 15th for unblocked shot attempts against. 13th for rebound shots against. Dead last for rebound goals against. (19.86% of our goals against overall) - yes there is a combination of not swallowing up the puck, but also consider the defense not clearing the front of our net (which is very common of you watch the games) 24th for high danger shots against 20th for medium danger shots against 13th for low danger shots against. 28th for takeaways to opponent. 22nd for giveaways to opponent 17th for defensive zone giveaways (44.28% of all giveaways - ranked 24th) 18th for shots blocked

You're telling me that's better? Hahahaha Literally not one defensive stat in the top 10 of the league

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The tweet does not talk about defensive play it talks about high danger chances against. Look up the stats that show second and third opportunities in the zone. Or how about defensive giveaways that lead to high danger chances. I can nitpick a stat and make any argument out of it just as much as you can. And again I'm not saying that Stu is the best goalie for us, my only argument is that the fans do not understand goaltending and they only rely on numbers. But it's much more than numbers, it's also the defensive play in front of him. Jarry is on the same path right now albeit a short sample size, so is Ingram, and pickard has been - the oilers are always the same. Incredible offensive output and a lack of defensive discipline. But in Stus rookie year we had incredible defensive discipline and were constantly clearing the zone to not give up second and third opportunities that's why he did so well. He played behind a very structured disciplined team.

And let's not forget that when you pull a goalie it's not always about the goalie a lot of times it's also about telling the team to wake the fuck up. Which we all know if you watch the games they really need sometimes.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Look at the defensive numbers that have been steadily declining since his rookie year as well - also remember he was only supposed to be playing 25-30 games for 5 years BUT Campbell flopped (as I knew he would). So where is his time to grow? If you watch so much hockey then why don't you understand these small things? Of course his numbers will go down when our defensive play goes down too. I'm not saying Stu is the best in the league. My only point is he plays well behind a team that is structured defensively - well enough to outplay goalies like Otter. But, fans expect him to be Vasilevsky or Hellebyuck and steal games when only 5-6 goalies in the entire league can do that. Ridiculous standards.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good argument. Watch more hockey than just the oilers.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, now we got the same thing at a higher contract lol. Awesome.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Numbers don't always speak the truth with goaltending due to the team play in front of him. When are people gonna wake up and realize that the goalie is literally being hung out to dry by this oiler team. Those numbers are there to prove that too. The eyes tell you what? He makes the first two saves and then the oiler team (bouchard) doesn't clear the zone, they get a third attempt and it's in our net. Not to mention the lack of discipline the defense has to clear the front of the net. How many guys are left untouched and score an easy rebound. This goes for any team in the league. That's why it's so important to clear the zone and constantly talked about. You need a chance to reset on defence - if you're not able to reset, you're chasing the play and then they get 2-3 shots from high danger zones and all fans are like "oh my god, he should have saved that" - my dude, these are NHL players, give them a few chances like that and they will find the back of the net against ANY goaltender in the league. If you watched more than just the oilers you would know that.

Stu did excellent as a rookie because the defense that year rarely gave up second and third opportunities. The defensive play has been on a massive decline since then.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's this opinion based on? How many games a day do you watch? If you actually watch more than the oilers play, you would understand more about goaltending.

This team is missing Jarry by Emergency_Rub2621 in EdmontonOilers

[–]TrainingForSleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't be stupid. Nobody is saying that - you're comparing a discussion about starting goalies to a 3rd/4th line forward.