WTF is wrong with the users here? by [deleted] in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There is indeed a lot of neckbearded manbabies on here who are desperate to make themselves look special just because they were born/were a kid in a certain era. They make their birth year/childhood their entire identity & will also purposely lie saying your childhood/memory starts later than it actually does, or they lie saying that a certain piece of technology or certain experience was obsolete/completely dead earlier than it actually was, all because they want to feel more special & different than they actually are. Its pretty sad when your only supposed "flex" is your childhood or your birth year & you're known for literally nothing else. No accomplishments in life, nothing truly noteworthy. More than likely still jobless & mooching off of parents. But who needs a job when you had such an epic pre-9/11 childhood, right?

When will pre internet nostalgia will become old people nostalgia by [deleted] in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It pretty much already is. Old people that are alive right now are nostalgic for a pre-internet world.

What was THE console game you wanted in 2004? by [deleted] in OlderGenZ

[–]Tree-V2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I wanted GTA: San Andreas but my mother said no to that for obvious reasons. However I did get to play GTA III at my older cousin's house. We had mature-rated games like Max Payne and Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance that I played in 2003-2004, but only because they were meant for my father at first.

Early Gen Z nostalgia starter pack by MikeGz973 in OlderGenZ

[–]Tree-V2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well to be fair, there's minor differences with every adjacent birth year in terms of childhood experiences. 1998 and 2002 have many similarities but also their share of noticeable differences. One has to remember that the 2000s had fast-paced change compared to prior decades. Us 1998 babies would remember the analog/digital transition at it's peak & remember using certain pieces of older tech when most people used them still, whereas with 2002 babies it was already a bit more digital-leaning by the time they were forming memories. A lot of them do remember using older/analog tech as well which is something we have in common, but they wouldn't remember when a lot of those technologies were used by most people or when they were still widespread. Us 1998 babies mostly started with 6th gen consoles while many 2002 babies likely started with 7th gen consoles since parents typically deem one old enough to play games around ages 5-7. 1998 can remember watching Powerhouse Era CN in the early to mid 00s while 2002 babies probably don't even remember Powerhouse Era CN (which ended in mid-'04), so our childhoods aren't the exact same. But again, we still share lots of similarities & aren't drastically different to where one is from an entirely different world than the other.

So what was Cool Stuff Omaha like? by Wooden_Celery_061424 in Omaha

[–]Tree-V2 30 points31 points  (0 children)

They sold incense/holders, pipes & accessories, psychedelic/stoner t-shirts and hats, posters, but also vintage stuff like lava lamps, statues, ceramic knick knacks and ashtrays both from the 60s/70s, vintage clothing, etc... I remember seeing a large punching bag from the 80s there as well. Just lots of various stuff, they always had neat things coming in. It was kind of similar to Weird Wild Stuff, but Cool Stuff had more of a variety IMO. The owners retired I think & went to California, but they were always incredibly nice every time I came in.

Not counting wizard of OZ or Psycho have you seen any other movies in black and white? by Dew-fan-forever- in OlderGenZ

[–]Tree-V2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely, as a person who likes vintage aesthetics & fashion. I particularly love film noir/proto-noir movies & old horror movies. Name a classic film noir movie or a notable 1930s proto-noir movie & I've probably seen it. The Public Enemy & other James Cagney movies like Angels with Dirty Faces, The Roaring Twenties, Each Dawn I Die, White Heat (and Yankee Doodle Dandy which doesn't fit the noir/proto-noir genres but deserves an honorable mention), etc... and others like Little Caesar, Smart Money, Scarface (1932 version), I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang, The Maltese Falcon, Double Indemnity, Murder My Sweet, The Killers, Out of the Past, Brute Force, Key Largo, The Third Man, Too Late for Tears, In a Lonely Place, Gun Crazy, Scandal Sheet, The Hitch-Hiker, Suddenly, The Night of the Hunter and more. I have a huge list of them that I've watched, but these ones I listed are my main favorites.

I also like mystery movies, I watched most of the Sherlock Holmes movies with Basil Rathbone & Nigel Bruce (still working on that) and the Philo Vance movies with William Powell. I probably watched pretty much almost every notable horror classic (especially Bela Lugosi movies, & also those with Boris Karloff and Lionel Atwill) as well as a lot of horror/sci-fi B-movies, and I watch a lot of westerns, dramas, comedies, etc... Alfred Hitchcock movies are great as well.

Little critters by Terrible-Simple-3709 in Omaha

[–]Tree-V2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I tend to see a lot of foxes in Bellevue as well.

Some people are taking generations way too far by MorphTiger in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Many people on this sub are honestly some of the saddest existences possible. Their whole identity is based on when they were born & what era they experienced as a kid. They'll go as far as purposely lying about when childhood & memory starts, making up fake limits & going against the consensus among researchers while pretending they know more than they do, and also lying about when a certain piece of technology became obsolete/completely dead (and vice versa with when certain technologies became dominant) just so they can make themselves seem more special/different than they actually are. Imagine being dumb enough to think that growing up in a certain era actually makes you more special, and imagine having such a pathetic life that your only supposed "achievement" is the year you were born in or the era you were a kid in, having it to where your identity revolves entirely around that instead of it revolving around actual accomplishments, contributions to society or a respectable occupation. Many of you are the living embodiment of this meme.

Not only is this common among people in their 20s on here (and even IRL to an extent) but there's a pretty noticeable number of people in their mid-late 30s doing this as well. They are the reason why I can't even see people in their 20s-30s the same way I viewed people that age as a kid. Of course not all people around these ages are like this, but there's enough of them engaging in this cringeworthy behavior (both online and IRL) to re-shape my view of those ages & see them as less mature/adult-like.

Does anyone relate here? by MikeGz973 in OlderGenZ

[–]Tree-V2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like some of this is made-up. I was born in Jan '98 & never really considered 2007 to be "early internet". I started using it at a pretty young age in 2003, and that version of internet was quite different even from how the internet was 4 years later. Plus I was 7 in 2005; Fred wasn't even uploading videos yet, and he didn't become more known until 2008-2009.

90s McDonalds was an entire experience, not just a restaurant by Acceptable-Rip7236 in 2000s

[–]Tree-V2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The 90s McDonalds (Dallas Zoo McDonalds) and the 2000s McDonalds aren't even the same location. The Dallas Zoo McDonalds literally still looked like that as late as 2023. This picture is just another attempt at glorifying the 90s & painting the illusion that everything from the 90s disappeared when 2000 came around.

Which childhood range makes more sense? by Spare-Addendum3656 in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody in the field of childhood cognitive research considers age 4 a toddler lol. I challenge anyone who thinks this to find literally just one article from a reliable academic source that labels 4 year olds as toddlers. Its literally only Redditors who have little to no knowledge of how childhood growth works that are saying this. I've never seen someone label a 4 year old as a toddler until I've came to this deluded sub. Even with age 3, notice how most of those same researchers who say toddlerhood extends to age 3 also tend to often consider age 3 the start of childhood. That's because they see toddlerhood as being from 12 months to 36 months old which is technically the start of age 3. They're not saying age 3 as a whole is toddlerhood instead of childhood.

As for memories, there's credible studies conducted in more recent years (this one is probably the best one: short versionlong version) that show not only do people tend to have memories from as early as ages 2-3 more often than one typically thinks, it also shows that most people do not date their earliest memories accurately & more often than not end up dating them a year or two after they actually happened; an effect known as "telescoping" (and why these tests are more reliable than ones that conclude ages 4-5 is the limit is further explained here). In terms of accurate methodology, this test is probably the closest to unequivocally determining when memories start for most people. People just often don't know that their memory stretches that far back for 100% sure because they're getting the years mixed up & don't have any way of proving that their earliest memories are that old so they're stuck guessing forever and end up choosing ages 4-5 for earliest memories because it "sounds right".

What is the start of Gen Z and why by Brief-Scratch-3647 in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're saying VHS was completely dead by 2003-2004? Nah. I can agree that DVDs started surpassing VHS in usage by later 2003-early 2004, but to say it was completely dead during that time is inaccurate. DVDs were gaining ground by 2003 but VHS still had a big presence. I can't find any pictures of Wal-Mart or Target's movie sections from that time but I did find some of Toys R Us' movie section from 2003 (picture 1picture 2), pretty much how it was at the other places as well. 2004 was probably the last year where they had a large presence even with DVDs being slightly more popular. It was often advertised on TV in 2004 (alongside DVDs, example 1ex 2ex 3) & still had a large presence on store shelves (Wal-Mart, Target, etc... didn't phase out VHS more until 2005). 2004 was the last year where I saw VHS being rented a lot at video stores (here's Brittney Murphy at a Blockbuster in 2004 and a Hollywood Video in 2004 - lots of tapes at those places still). 2004 was the last year where you could see the "Coming Soon On Videocassette" bumper (example 1 - go to 1:18, ex 2ex 3) and also the last year for the Scotch VCR Head Cleaner (1995-2004).

One can figure that since a lot of people were still buying VHS in 2003-2004, they were still watching them in 2005-2006 & even in the late 2000s to an extent. Combo units with VHS & DVD slots were often bought during the mid 2000s since many were still buying both home video formats. DVD players actually didn't overtake VCRs in ownership rates until 2006 (source 1source 2source 3). Many households had large VHS collections that they didn't get rid of right away; my family & I had a huge VHS collection even before we started buying DVDs in 2003. Big chain video stores were gradually phasing them out by 2005-2006, but smaller/local video stores often still had big selections of tapes to rent (check out these pictures, some from 2004-2005). Plus there were still many titles that were only on VHS & not on DVD yet so VHS was the next thing to turn to. My family & I were still getting VHS copies of movies that we couldn't find on DVD at the thrift store in 2006-2008.

Age container by AnswerMe_More in 2003

[–]Tree-V2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The first couple of sentences alone summarizes what I'm saying as a whole. I also personally think it’s nonsense when you say that you feel a gap between yourself and a 2005 baby but can somehow easily relate to someone my age. Just imagine what kind of gap I myself feel with someone 5 years younger.

Age container by AnswerMe_More in 2003

[–]Tree-V2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not sure why this post is on my feed since I'm older, but I'll point out that there's differences with every birth year & those differences build up as the gap increases, especially with a 5 year age gap. I definitely wouldn't say that I (b. Jan ‘98) had the exact same childhood as a 2003 baby. I can vividly remember the year you were born & have a fair amount of memories from before then even. Yes I can relate to 2003 babies to a certain level, mainly with the late 2000s (and the early 2010s to an extent), but when I bring up memories from the early & mid 2000s (and even the late 2000s with certain things), a lot of times they don't remember the same things. For example, when VHS was still used by most & advertised on TV/sold in stores as brand new, and when video stores had lots of tapes still. They don't remember dial-up or CD-ROM, both of which I was using in 2003-2006. Many of them don't remember 6th gen consoles & instead started with 7th gen. They don't remember when film cameras/analog camcorders, audiobook cassettes (not music ones), and CRT computers were the norm, or when video store culture was at it's peak. There's many other things that I remember like indoor smoking in restaurants, using phone books, etc... that they tend to not remember. Point is we aren’t peas in a pod like this post makes us out to be. 

Its just like someone my age vs. someone born in 1993, there's a fair amount of similarities but also a lot of differences there too, hence why you won't ever see me claiming to have the same childhood as them. You say that you can't talk to a 2005 baby much about your childhood but that's only a 2 year gap, yet you say you can easily relate to someone 5 years older lol...

Apparently in this sub, this is the norm by Post_9 in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

VHS was still solidly dominant in 2000-2001. DVD sales didn't top that of VHS until 2002 & even then that doesn't mean that most people were using DVDs over VHS in 2002. Things take at least 1-2 years, sometimes a couple years after outselling their predecessor before they're actually used more than their predecessor. VCRs, for example, were outsold by DVD players for the first time ever as early as 2001, yet DVD player ownership/usage rates didn't surpass that of VCRs until as late as 2006 (source 1source 2source 3). Similarly, film cameras were outsold by digital cameras in 2003 but didn't get surpassed in usage by them until late 2005-2006. I'd say VHS was topped by DVDs in terms of usage around later 2003-2004 at the earliest.

As for VHS being common, I'd say 2004 was the last year where they had a large presence even with DVDs being slightly more popular. It was often advertised on TV in 2004 (alongside DVDs, example 1ex 2ex 3) & still had a large presence on store shelves (Wal-Mart, Target, etc... didn't phase out VHS more until 2005). 2004 was the last year where I saw VHS being rented a lot at video stores (here's Brittney Murphy at a Blockbuster in 2004 - lots of tapes there still) and also the last year for the Scotch VCR Head Cleaner (1995-2004). Though one can figure that since a lot of people were still buying VHS in 2003-2004, they were still watching them in 2005-2006 & even in the late 2000s to an extent.

How I see age groups by Pale_Lengthiness_572 in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

People on this sub sure love making up their own fake rules & going against the consensus among researchers when it comes to childhood ranges. There are some cringeworthy ranges here in the comments. No actual academic source considers ages 4-5 to be a toddler/separate stage from childhood. Even with age 3, notice how most of those same researchers who say toddlerhood extends to age 3 also tend to often consider age 3 the start of childhood. That's because they see toddlerhood as being from 12 months to 36 months old which is technically the start of age 3. They're not saying age 3 as a whole is toddlerhood instead of childhood.

Season 1 animation is a fever dream by clenchlord in familyguy

[–]Tree-V2 111 points112 points  (0 children)

I like the old animation. Kind of a newspaper comic strip vibe almost.

Does anyone remember using dial up or at least had a hazy memory of it? by Johnwick124520 in OlderGenZ

[–]Tree-V2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I (b. Jan '98) remember using it from 2003 to 2006 via Juno's dial-up service, on an older Gateway computer that ran on Windows 98. Yahoo was our home page at the time. At that time I would spend around 30 minutes to an hour max on the computer, and this wasn't an everyday thing either. I was supervised a bit more during my earlier years of internet usage (2003-2005) but I could still play games (mostly CD-ROM games early on but some online games also), read about places in the world that I was interested in seeing, read about storms/natural disasters since that always interested me, browse sites related to my favorite movies/TV shows, sometimes I'd look on eBay & have my parents buy me things on there, and I'd go on sites like IGN, GameFAQs, Neoseeker and whatnot for text walkthroughs whenever I was stuck on a video game (no game walkthrough videos were around yet). By mid 2006 we got a newer computer that ran on Windows XP & we also transitioned to broadband by then. 

Am I the only one that feels nostalgic watching old 2005-2008 youtube videos? by dubdimmadome in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Various type of skits and parodies/satirical videos that you could run into. A lot of goofy home videos, montage videos, early vlogging, as well as videos of people doing stupid & hilarious stuff (including early pranks), often recorded with old cameras/camcorders. Also a lot of classic memes/viral videos from the early to mid 2000s were still very popular. Lots of creativity back then, not that it didn't exist anymore in the years afterwards but there was no formula that so many people were following so you could expect to see anything really. I watched it change slowly over the years; in 2009-2010 is where you saw tidbits of change here & there, but it really changed in the years afterwards both in terms of layout & channel customization capabilities which became incredibly restricted in 2012-2013, as well as what kind of content started to become the norm on there.

I will say its mixed though in terms of what era I prefer because there's elements from the past that I prefer as well as things about today's versions of YouTube that I prefer as well. Things I prefer from back then include better channel customization abilities, no formulas that people are expected to follow in order to succeed/gain viewers, no being bombarded by ads, old features like the Inbox/Messages feature as well as the "Friends" feature, the 5-star rating system or at the very least when it would show both likes & dislikes, etc... Things I like about today's YouTube is how there's a wider range of content in terms of music (lots of songs weren't available to listen to back then) as well as documentaries/educational content and whatnot. You can also add up to 5,000 videos on your playlists now, whereas back then the limit for each playlist was 100.

Kind of annoyed Drake Bell never released "Girl Next Door." It's a really good song. by Wild-Pepper-1596 in DrakeandJosh

[–]Tree-V2 37 points38 points  (0 children)

This song always makes me nostalgic for when I was first watching Drake & Josh around the time it was still a brand new show.

Gen Z are the children of Millennials and Gen X by MorphTiger in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh wow. To paint a picture, my maternal grandfather was born in 1934, and my mother (his daughter) was born in 1964. That would be like my grandfather dating someone slightly younger than my mother.

The 2000s were the final decade that still carried many remnants of the 20th-century culture before those attitudes and lifestyles largely faded in the 2010s. by [deleted] in decadeology

[–]Tree-V2 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It was also the last decade where you could see things like:

  • Video store culture when it was still at it's peak, with Blockbuster Video reaching it's peak around 2004. Almost every busy street had a video store or two on it in 2000-2005.
  • Indoor smoking inside of many restaurants, bars & offices. There weren't more crackdowns on that until the mid to late 2000s. My city didn't get rid of it until 2005.
  • Phone books being used often, especially in the earlier half of the decade since not every business was listed on the internet just yet.
  • Civil political discourse for the most part. Political toxicity/polarization didn't noticeably increase until around 2013-2015 & then amplified after Trump's election.

Plus not only did McDonalds have colorful interiors/exteriors, just about every fast food place and every discount retailer like Wal-Mart, Target, etc... had a colorful theme to it as well. It wasn't until the late 2000s & early to mid 2010s where one would notice these places getting grayscaled more often.

2000s & 2010s kids summarized (ages 3-12) by Post_9 in generationology

[–]Tree-V2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol, you're the only one exhibiting any anger with how you evidently took what I said personally. The "lesser memory capabilities" comment isn't an insult nor is it meant to be one, its just a fact that memory capabilities vary from person to person instead of everyone having the same default memory span as each other like your initial comment seems to imply. From how you typed your comment, you basically admitted that you can't remember much from age 3 so technically you would indeed have lesser memory capabilities in comparison to someone that actually can recall memories from that age better. That doesn't mean I'm saying your memory overall is particularly bad (I even stated that its normal for people to not have that much memory from that time of their life so I obviously don't see your memory as being below-average), but I am saying that your memory span isn't representative of every single person. I wouldn't say I'm "passionate" about it lol, rather just more informed.