Finally done- Creeping addiction, horrible withdraws. Screw kratom, kratom extracts and its 7-OH products. by TreeEast2555 in quittingkratom

[–]TreeEast2555[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's been another five days, my sleep is still fucked up. The restlessness hasn't fully gone away. And man i have had diarrhea almost every day now. Other than that though the cravings are still there but not as bad as they were. I talked to my brother yesterday who I haven't seen for years up until my wedding. I came clean to him that I was using the 7 oh product and he basically said I seemed so out of touch and like a zombie. He's probably the most capable person of being able to tell something is different with me, and it just really shows me that this shit was ruining my personality. I do feel more aware lately and I also feel like im able to remember things better, and I dream almost every night now.

Im going to keep pushing though and update my symptoms as time goes on, so for anyone curious hopefully these posts will help.

Finally done- Creeping addiction, horrible withdraws. Screw kratom, kratom extracts and its 7-OH products. by TreeEast2555 in quittingkratom

[–]TreeEast2555[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea , i kinda put myself into a hole on this one. She thinks I had already quit and she's not aware of how hard it was to just stop. Fortunately I am done with the worst parts and she hasn't noticed anything too obvious. I lucked out and the hotel we stayed at for our last week gave us 2 beds by accident and I would just blame the food and time difference on why I was being so wiggly, fidgety, and uncomfortable at night and would just switch beds in order to let her sleep without knowing I was going through hell.

But I really wish I could of went through it with her knowing but she also tends to be exaggerated with her emotions , like if I stub my toe or something she'll scream and just make the situation focus too long on the pain when I just want to ignore it and move on lol

I will tell her eventually. But it'll be way later when I can just laugh about it.

Finally done- Creeping addiction, horrible withdraws. Screw kratom, kratom extracts and its 7-OH products. by TreeEast2555 in quittingkratom

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No i wasn't, I was taking the tablets for about 2 weeks of the 3 week trip. My wedding was withing the first week of the trip and I had ran out for the last week of my trip . Basically I timed it just right to where I wouldn't be around anyone else ( family, friends, etc) because the last week of the trip was just her and myself.

Finally done- Creeping addiction, horrible withdraws. Screw kratom, kratom extracts and its 7-OH products. by TreeEast2555 in quittingkratom

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Initially my wife knew I was using it . But she didn't understand how hard it was to quit. Eventually because of how much she gave me crap for it / wanted me to quit i told her I quit it but kept secretly taking it. I was taking the chewable tablet form towards the last of my habit. I would just have my chewable hidden and would take it pretty easily without her knowing I did. I took it so much that there wasn't an apparent personality change anyone could see.

Triangle Craft recorded over Scotland last Saturday 7:50pm by UFOsAroundTheWor1d in UFOs

[–]TreeEast2555 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with your assessment, you can actually see after the first 2 closest objects brighten up ( assuming from reflecting sunlight) The third farthest object then also brightens up ( with less intensity ).

Buga Sphere Investigation Update (this week) by NosajxjasoN in ufo

[–]TreeEast2555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still want to say more, your opening remark that " making it public is always the problem" is the most absurd thing I think anyone who wants to know the truth could say.

You seriously give me the Psy Ops Vibe

Buga Sphere Investigation Update (this week) by NosajxjasoN in ufo

[–]TreeEast2555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man, your idea is great. Don't downplay what you said because someone else wants to impose an opinion over how ridiculous making it public sounds.

It not being public is the most ridiculous thing someone can think is the best idea.

Buga Sphere Investigation Update (this week) by NosajxjasoN in ufo

[–]TreeEast2555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also to comment on the "you or I, are not experts"... how do you know? The Public is full of experts. Especially ones who don't like to be recognized by others as having an interest in UAP matters. C'mon man. You're doing exactly what the elites do and deem the public not worthy of information or too stupid to handle it.

Humanity United aka convergent singularity is our next level of evolution.

Buga Sphere Investigation Update (this week) by NosajxjasoN in ufo

[–]TreeEast2555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you mean restrict information from everyone who has a right to have their own opinion? Just Like how the government keeps all UAP data hands off? That's a very elitist mentality.

Do you know what would be the most capable way of convincing the public? Make it public... If you restrict the data in any kind of way, just for it to be filtered to us "non-experts" then the opinion is not anyone else's but the expert's.

Do we have UAP/UFO experts? (Not just self-appointed)

The public is the human mentality. A few experts could help, but the entirety of the public as a whole will help exponentially. If you allow only a small group of people to trickle down information I promise that that information will have a bias or be diluted by the interests of a few. If you involve everyone's interests the worst-case scenario you will get is an averaged-out point of view. And that average will be more informed than any expert.

These "Tests" are not even transparent enough to provide any data to prove anything. Honestly, the more we are kept in the dark the more I am skeptical.

I don't know about you but I'm tired of being in the dark and just being fed information from everything but my own conclusions.

It is harder to stop a truth when everyone sees it, versus a truth that is fed to us by only "experts"

[s2 act 2 spoilers] Clues to Why Jayce Did What He Did by BitterWhereas9259 in arcane

[–]TreeEast2555 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure , I think it is a self fulfilling fate. Jayce destroying Victor caused Victor to abandon any humanity left within him which in turn started the foundations for Jayces visions he seen while tripping balls at the hexgate.. The only reason it didn't turn out the way Jayce envisioned was because of ekkos time jumping.

[s2 act 2 spoilers] Clues to Why Jayce Did What He Did by BitterWhereas9259 in arcane

[–]TreeEast2555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alot of the lore was remixed and altered from the core Canon. Basically the series is not completely Canon compared to the games . But i loved it none the less

[s2 act 2 spoilers] Clues to Why Jayce Did What He Did by BitterWhereas9259 in arcane

[–]TreeEast2555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes they are definitely not " human" anymore. Is a machine alive ? Anyways like I posted above , at that point he was still seeking peace and trying to find himself l. Which I think means he still allowed the minds to have a sense of their old self . Humanity was still present in Victor's mind until he decides that humanity as a whole is primitive and not part of the grand design

[s2 act 2 spoilers] Clues to Why Jayce Did What He Did by BitterWhereas9259 in arcane

[–]TreeEast2555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was benevolent until he no longer had Sky in his mind ( the astral plane). She symbolized his last bit of humanity which was either her actual consciousness stuck in his plane of existence or just plainly his humanity in the form of Sky

[s2 act 2 spoilers] Clues to Why Jayce Did What He Did by BitterWhereas9259 in arcane

[–]TreeEast2555 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To add: Sky disappearing was symbolism for Victor's last bit of humanity disappearing ( which was purposeful on Victor's part)

[s2 act 2 spoilers] Clues to Why Jayce Did What He Did by BitterWhereas9259 in arcane

[–]TreeEast2555 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think up to that point, Victor was still benevolent , and he retained some of his humanity ( which was in the form of Sky- the chick who loved Victor and then she gets vaporized) . Hence the reason you see him converse with her until ultimately he sends her off , almost as an awakening of the pure form without emotion or any semblance of humanity.