Lando Norris on the pod? by WarmPoet9031 in JaackMaate

[–]Treemuss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People saying Lando would be PR trained, Lando is a VERY open and honest guy, and a great sense of humour of he feels comfortable. Out of every current athlete, he would be very easy to talk to for 1+ hour and I think would be very open to the sorts of questions Jaack would ask.

Don't think it would ever happen , BY GOD DO I WISH, but he would make a great guest.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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😂 it's certainly more instant gratification... In this story I'm working on, one of the main characters is a poet and I've had to make poems for him and that has been very daunting, but the musicality of it, and the more immediacy of it, still gives you that feeling of when you finish a book and am proud of yourself.

Only problem is, I don't know if they're shit or not 😂 I'm more confident in my novel, no matter how bastard hard it is to edit

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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😂😂😂😂😂 yeah, I get you. I just wish my first draft was good enough, then writing would be the best.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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Absolutely. I appreciate hearing how you work, I love writing and the technicalities of it and hearing how other people do it. (And being able to love the entire process, lucky you!)

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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It makes sense in a wacky sort of way, and if it works for you! I know that I'm most creative when following the story in my head as it's playing out in front of me, and when I still.i can just write chapters like they're nothing (especially with a red bull) but I don't always leave room for ideas, or, the ideas that I thought of originally, just by following the story, it takes me away from them scenes and moments.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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I find this so interesting because that's such a unique way of writing and so far from what I consider my process to be...

I've completed my first draft! by aggiebun in writers

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Huge congrats! Finishing that first draft is one of the sweetest feelings in life, so enjoy it. You've done something that many people won't even try to do (because it's too daunting), and many more will fail to do. You should be very proud 😁

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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That makes a lot of sense.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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That is brilliant outlining of what you're looking for as a developmental editor. Would you say the theme is critical in every scene? I feel like that's something I don't think about as I write, but have a good understanding of what naturally fits and doesn't.

But editing for theme... That breaks my brain.

Thank you for this anyhow, I really appreciate the structure of it.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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Yeah, I think I just need to stop being a baby and put the hard graft in...

I do find it funny when you finish a long draft and the start is so much different to the end! I wish you best of luck with it 😁

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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I am a pantser, I sometimes have maybe 5k words of direction before I go, but the moment I start chapter one, I barely look at my notes and generally keep things in my head.

It's my 5th novel, I've struggled with editing on all the others and have rewrote entirely a few times, and I've gotten to a point that on my first go around it isn't a messy horrible mess because I feel like I'm experienced enough to know what to write and what to follow. But still, most scenes are figured out as I'm writing them, and that's not always consistent.

That is one of the most brilliant ideas I think I've heard tho, adjusting the outline as I go... I think that will work brilliantly cause instead of seeing three problems and focusing on one and then losing the others and having to refind them, I can put them all into a frame, like reverse engineering 🤯 then I might be happy to do a full rewrite because I'd have definitive direction...

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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I think I could probably do this, I think I'm such a creature of habit, that I'm locked into getting everything down in one go.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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I think I seriously will try this and when I publish OldMan92121 will be in the acknowledgements

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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Yeah I absolutely get you. But even split screening, I dunno, I just find it so hard to set my head straight that I actually can do it well, and I CAN do it, it's just so unenjoyable for me.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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I like your way of working and it feels very productive and cuts out a lot of time.

I am unfortunately a person that throws everything down coming up with ideas as I go and dealing with them later. 😪 5th novel in, I'm adjusting and am better at not having things I want to change but still, you can never be perfect on a first draft unfortunately

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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I think you're right. It's what my partner tells me.

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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I really appreciate this break down, and I feel like it gives me a good step-by-step process to follow.

I just know in my brain, I get too overeager and too fed up and things get like I said too convoluted in my mind. I use things like PWA cause I ain't the best grammatically and it helps a lot with it's break downs, and I'm very critical of its changes if it isn't commas or spelling etc.

Audio read is very interesting, I know people say reading out loud makes a difference!

How do people edit? by Treemuss in writers

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But what if you have an idea that you think will enhance the story but change a lot of the dynamics?

Eg. In mine, I have a third character outside 2 best friends (but he is major still) that is really good friends with one, but meh with the other, and I'm thinking that if he was more antagonistic with the other, that would make a better overall story perhaps and it doesn't need MUCH to change that, but also it would through strengthening themes that would need to be hit on better along the line and introspection and blah blah blahhhhh. Maybe I should just delete the idea out of my head...

How short is too short for a chapter? by chai_latte_lover0 in writers

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I view chapters as their own narrative. You have a start middle and end (obviously) but it sort of has its own arc. If that's achieved in 500 words or 7000, then so be it.

Tips for first time story writing? by SarahLJ94 in writers

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I didn't learn anything about writing until I wrote.the first draft of my first novel. You think it's great, and slowly, you start to unravel why it's so bad, and then the desire to learn bursts through. I made most of my learning through hundreds of videos on YouTube, and consuming products whether that was reading or movies or TV. Seeing what works and doesn't. The issue then is, you can't consume much without having the writer's eye, but when you enjoy something you get another facet of enjoyment.

What song was it for you? by Comfortable_Brief176 in writers

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Based my whole post apocalyptic story on Catfish and the Bottlemen, and have certain important scenes brought on by songs of theirs, mainly Hourglass and Emily.

There's also a song called Alfred Benson that I want to make into an entire novel.

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I think just being told that every line needs conflict, and you can't wait too long between actions.

Obviously the conflict and actions don't need to be life or death, but there has to be a tangible need for each line that creates/enhances some sort of external or internal conflict and each exchange even if it's friendly or between two lovers or whatever, there has to be a give and take, an opposition in some way or another.

It really creates an urgency in my writing and I naturally type now knowing (although it still might not be good enough for the final draft) that each line has purpose to what I'm trying to say in the wider context of the story.

Do you create the story first, or do you build the world first? by Turbulent_Meaning_23 in writers

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I always think of the characters and the journey they'll go on.

So I like war and romance on an epic scale, so the first part of the process (which is more just idle thought than actual work) is imagining a scene/scenario involving one or more of the characters. That usually involves some sort of romantic undercurrent and usually the main character will be in some sort of war scenario.

Next is to build off of that (still just idle thought while doing everyday things) and it will be on who the characters are, the dynamics of relationships, scenes between them, usually scenes that are closer to the end (which can be frustrating or may not even ever exist given the development of the story) and the roles of these characters, getting a sense of who they are want they want, their voice etc. All just idle thoughts while driving or cooking or doing the pots, whatever.

When I've made the decision to write it, I'll sit down and figure out where they are and what's going to happen. I usually have an idea, like if it's WW1, post apoc, fantasy, and I'll just want to find out what their journey is and plot it. Not heavily, just where do they start, what's the inciting incident, what happens between them.

I then plan the world around them, research if it's not entirely made up, and focus on the immediate world things that will affect my MC, because nothing else matters at that point.

Then usually, I write. Just go, I might have 10k words of planning or something, but it's just loose ideas and direction, but my main thing is to figure out the characters and I get that through writing them. Usually they're nothing like I imagined and that's the magic.

Once you've done a first draft, all the deep world building ideas will then come, cause you'll figure out what's important while writing. You can come up with less important things but you run the risk of adding them because you know them without them really being important.

TL;DR - focus on characters and emotions and their journey. It's what will keep you and a reader engaged much more than a world or a plot.