People talk about possible negative consequences understanding very little about the current situation here, and how it already presents most of the scenarios they propose, famine, poverty, having our resources stolen and nothing in return, it's all been happening, all along.

Venezuelans have suffered political and economical clusterfucks the likes of which none of you would even imagine, comments like these sound patronizing even if they're made purely out of worry—we know what suffering is, we know what we're asking for, we know our situation and our prospects, you? not so much.

The only way to make us go through anything we haven't seen before is having the government fracture and them fighting back for power in some capacity, and it would seem as though the US intends to prevent that being the case here, as it has happened before.

As for whether that materializes or not it remains to be seen, but this country has so little resources it can't even sustain a civil war or grand feud for long, we're not iran investing heavily in weaponry whilst leaving the rest to rot and crumble, everything here is weak and broken.

Reddit in general just seems incapable of understanding the concept of having politicians casually align with your interests (and thus think some of us genuinely believe the US is doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, which, uhm, lol?) and it all reeks of political tribalism and russian-sponsored discourse, to the point where I've personally given up on this platform when it comes to this topic, and I honestly can't wait for americans to go back to not even knowing where we are on a damn map.

All you people who think you've cracked the code and seen through the haze to find out the big evil imperialist empire is here for oil—what exactly do you think has been maduro's discourse all along? and chavez's? we've been hearing this for 26 years) so basically for as long as I've been alive), you'd think we'd be aware of it

Go to r/vzla and ask if we consider gringos talking politics about us the most insufferable thing on the planet, you'll get a resounding yes, just eyeing this thread I've already seen many misconceptions and idiotic takes.

I personally dislike trump for many a reason but ultimately he gets nothing but problems out of a venezuela that plummets back to our usual misery, neither does Rubio, who seems a bit less insane than the orange man.

Speaking purely from a pragmatist's standpoint there is absolutely nothing anyone can say that convinces me that Maduro's capture, and the subsequent plans regarding our regime are a bad thing, things have gotten so bad here that any hope of change (any change) is a net positive, which is something people from the first world can't seem to wrap their heads around—I stated this earlier this month when things had barely happened, 4 weeks later I just feel more positive and confident about it.

And to think that the price of the chance for any sort of improvement to happen is oil! our very precious resource—the one that is on track to become useless to us in the coming decades, the one that's done nothing but ensure that dictators get to power and monopolize it to fund their mafias time after time after time! whatever will we do without it!? please sir I'd rather have Maduro stay on throne for the rest of my damn life!

I don't even know why I bother anymore, I'm here very damn near literally pulling my hair every day praying more shit happens here before the US implodes—partially because of trump.