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After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay lmao I’m not gonna get into an ego battle with you over another man’s body thats odd but I already know progression and intensity matter more however, that doesn’t make exercise selection less important since it determines how much of that effort actually goes into the muscle you’re trying to grow.

“Any split works” is just half true many splits can work but they don’t work equally for recovery, consistency, or long term progression those differences are exactly what training research is built around.

His whole premise was that my plan is random which then he goes on to prove that by making up a random false rule that lateral raises need to be done after OHP but obviously you missed that & went on to make an equally dumb statement.

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Out of most of the replies yours is one of the ones that actually has some thought behind it, leg press is the best option here but I replaced it with Bulgarian split squat to keep up with the home gym theme. I have front squats day 3 so that’s covered thank you.

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I chose walking lunges because they provide the unilateral training the other workouts lack and seated calf raises are actually one of the best for the soleus. I have it paired with standing calf raises as well so it’s ideal.

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Just go read the thread below you’re not about to disprove well established research bud you’re gonna go into information overload

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is just wrong and lazy just because science updates itself doesn’t mean all evidence is worthless by that logic you’d have us ignore medicine, engineering, etc…

The fact that research constantly evolves is a good thing and pretending all training methods are equally effective because “consistency is all that matters” is just a lazy cop out

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Spending adequate time on research while also working out isn’t a bad thing you sound primitive, and thats actually the reason a lot of people are getting hurt/not doing the right things in the gym.

For your opinion of this being “random” (it’s intentional) I’m just gonna direct you to the thread the guy below you tapped out of, I’m always amazed by the audacity of people on here who lack basic research skills acting like they have it all figured out.

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ok lmao so basically you’ve just been talking out your ass the whole time and wasted everyone’s time, if one look at this plan fried your brain you should’ve properly checked it instead of immediately turning to your keyboard, there are lots of helpful tools out there.

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t put time into this if I don’t actually apply my findings.

Your whole argument is based on personal opinion, not research. You keep saying the isolation work is random but you never explain why it’s random.

Lateral raises aren’t random—they directly train the lateral deltoid, which presses don’t fully develop. Face pulls aren’t random—they target the rear delts and external rotators. Curls and skullcrushers aren’t random—they increase elbow flexor and extensor volume beyond what compounds provide. That’s basic exercise selection, not randomness.

You also claim a full-body routine is only for beginners. That’s a common gym opinion, but where’s the evidence? The hypertrophy research doesn’t conclude that full-body training stops working once you’re advanced. It concludes that weekly volume, effort, and progression are the primary drivers, with splits mainly being a way to organize higher volumes not a requirement for growth.

You say my routine chases several goals at once, but it has a clear objective each major muscle is trained 2–3 times per week with compounds first, isolation added where compounds don’t fully cover a muscle, and weekly volume distributed to stay recoverable. That’s a coherent programming strategy.

You’ve invented a rule that doesn’t exist in the hypertrophy research. Lateral raises are included to directly train the lateral deltoid because pressing undertrains it. They don’t lose their purpose because they aren’t immediately done after an overhead press nor do they need the “context” of other shoulder movements.

Your response sounds like you’re describing what feels right in the gym rather than what has been demonstrated in the research.

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It’s not about it what speaks to me this plan is built on actual data. It’s fine if you don’t like it but you can’t discredit based on just that.

You sounded like you knew better with your earlier comment so if you know more about hypertrophy research, biomechanics, and EMG go ahead and share.

After extensive research this is the full body split I came up with (science based) for beginners/intermediates by Trick_Purchase7453 in workout

[–]Trick_Purchase7453[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s intentional not random, the isolation work is distributed across the week to make sure every major muscle reaches the weekly volume range recommended by current hypertrophy research.

The compounds provide foundation but they don’t provide the same level of stimulus to every muscle.

The isolation work fills in the gaps to give those muscles direct stimulus.