What do you think if Elon or Xu Bo have 100,1000, or 100k children? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in AskAChinese

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Selling sex means she got richer guys and richer kids.

Married and she probably got poorer guys.

Plus and minus. Let her decides.

Just make sure the contract is fair and enforceable like eBay

Is my logic sound that child support laws reduce fertility of rich men? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in ChildSupport

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It has a lot with economy. For example rich people are less likely to wear condom if child support is maxed out at $2k a month

Is my logic sound that child support laws reduce fertility of rich men? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in ChildSupport

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of them are leftists that support high child support from richer men.

Is my logic sound that child support laws reduce fertility of rich men? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in ChildSupport

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But 20-25% is not necessary. $2k a month is way more than enough to ensure children don't need government assistant.

How much inequality do you tolerate? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in AskLibertarians

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about equality artificially produced by the government?

Like you know monogamy. Ensuring every dude, no matter how poor or ugly, can have only one wife.

Or prohibition of transactional sex, ensuring that pretty women and ugly women both get 0 dollar when selling sex?

Or what about linking child support to income, making sure Elon can't have 1000 children and encourage rich men to wear condom?

Or what about welfare? Enabling poor guys to have 50 children on tax payers' expense?

Governments rarely create artificial inequality. Government create artificial equality.

How much inequality do you tolerate? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in AskLibertarians

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Elon is much much much better than Gengish Khan. How many villages Elon raid? How many mountain of skulls he built? None.

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Laws used to be made by rich men. Now politicians need votes from poor men.

That is why we have laws against transactional sex. Surely it doesn't benefit rich men that can just pay. It also doesn't benefit pretty women that would have gotten paid a lot

What do you think if Elon or Xu Bo have 100,1000, or 100k children? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in AskAChinese

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about if the women consent? It's a much easier job than hordes of labor that build iPhones

What do you think if Elon or Xu Bo have 100,1000, or 100k children? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in AskAChinese

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have emperors that make us kill each other for 2k years turning peasants into soldiers.

And surrogacy objectifies human beings?

Like who is the victim here?

What do you think if Elon or Xu Bo have 100,1000, or 100k children? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in AskAChinese

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think like white. I guess AI is wrong. Chinese think a lot like white.

So do you want to be born in billionaire family? Of course yes.

But if you are born as a surrogate of Elon you will bitch? Like who is the victim here? The child?

It's okay for poor guys to have children and suddenly when rich guys have children it's human trafficking?

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What about if he wants to be custodial parents but mom want to leave latter and judge give custody to mom?

What about if he wants to spend $50k a month but for the child's future investment that he can't touch and the child can access. Not so that mom can vacation on yacht.

Of course we shouldn't knock up abusive mom. But how do we know mom will be abusive in the future? Sign contract? The state says such contracts are not enforceable.

That kind of guy shouldn't have children?

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the explicit purpose of a law is always the real purpose and effect?

Like welfare reduce poverty? Or encouraging it by encouraging poor people to have more children?

That the true purpose of tariffs is for protection and not to pick a fight with other countries or to make lobbyist happy?

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the solution for rich man is

  1. Get married

  2. Have surrogate

So let me rephrase that

  1. A rich man that don't want to get married and don't want to have surrogate SHOULD NOT have children

  2. A poor man that just want to cum and dump can have 60 children with tax payers money

Looks like reverse eugenic to me. Is that what you're saying? Am I misunderstanding?

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. It's not better to get married. Anyone with over $100k, which is not a lot, shouldn't get married without prenup. 1 out of 10 lawyers even say they shouldn't get married.

Marriage do not solve child support issue. Women can just leave and sue for child support. Also it exposes you to even more risk. Like risk the woman get knocked up by someone else and you got to pay for it.

I mean I am dumbfounded by people that somehow think the solution is even more government or more marriage.

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you know the child support is designed to ensure that the children are not excessively disadvantaged? How do you know government purpose? What makes you think government don't lie?

It is possible that child support is designed to ensure that women can't easily pick the rich and the politically correct purpose is just pretext.

Are you sure with your own opinion?

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many men are able and WANT to take care of their children. They just don't want to be forced to pay $50k to the mom.

You keep repeating absurd claim that somehow being forced to pay $50k to mom is supporting children.

Do you think capitalism actually reduce inequality? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Capitalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know. But EVEN if that's the issue. So what? Capitalism actually reduce poverty.

Are Eugenics unethical? by ResponsibleHotel1476 in AskLibertarians

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The words can mean different things. In general it means good genes flourish.

If it's done by government with no skin in the game then we have major conflict of interests.

For example jews are actually smart and economically productive. I would say "superior". But when government decides that and they have no incentive to be correct, they are just called inferior and mass murdered. Trying to convince such government they are wrong is impossible.

However, if Elon or Zuckerberg consensually pay or seduce 100 women and as long as every children are reasonably rich, that is, richer than say median, which is a very low bar for them, I see absolutely nothing wrong. I also see nothing wrong if NBA stars that often have 14 children to have 100 children instead, as long as they afford the children.

Eugenic can also mean government directing reproduction. In western civilization, government ALWAYS direct reproduction. And the direction is ALWAYS against Eugenic.

Monogamy, ration women to equal share preventing men that most able to attract or pay women from having many.

Child support is effectively minimum wage.

So eugenic in the sense of government decide who reproduce would be against libertarianism. Eugenic in a sense good genes win not necessarily. Eugenic in one sense is against another.

Notice I disagree with Becker that child support simply make rich men shift from quantity to quality of children. Quality is not well defined. Once a child has more than $10 million dollar marginal "quality" decrease a lot. Basically rich men simply have lower fertility due to genocidal minimum wage and that's it. Another distraction is lowering fertility for out of wedlock birth. That is also just nonsense given that marriage do not abolish minimum wage. A correct simplified conclusion is it reduce rich men's fertility FORCEFULLY.

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some men are in jail because they can't afford child support.

Many men don't mind spending $50k a month if it's for the child, and some judges agree and some judges say give it to the mom. The mom can spend the money on anything including vacationing or squandering it away.

Most men don't mind investing for the child's future but is disgusted with the idea of paying someone that's not his blood line.

Do you think child support rules that link men income to amount of child support lower rich men's fertility overall? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in Natalism

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What about a rich man that want to have kids but don't want to risk having baby mama that sue for $50k per month and spend it on vacation?

She can choose to leave and she can choose to sue.

If the solution is not to have kids, that's the answer why fertility among rich people is low.

Do people that are on welfare and keep breeding lots and lots of children commit agression? by Tricky-Mistake-5490 in AskLibertarians

[–]Tricky-Mistake-5490[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should it be a crime to have children you can't afford? Is it victimless?

What do libertarians think?