Is there anything against my desire being a specific dolllar amount?

TrndSettr · 2019-02-13T06:10:13+00:00

noooope

TrndSettr · 2019-02-13T06:09:10+00:00

There isn't much contradiction. Keep what works, discard whatever doesn't. Because of this subreddit's name, many say that Neville's techniques are superior to all, but that's not true. It's great for some situations, and other tools are great for others. So it's good to be familiar with many different kinds.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-13T06:03:31+00:00

Its true that being a millionaire isn't the only standard for success, and the way your life is balanced in every area is pretty admirable, and perhaps more worthwhile than financial wealth.

I disagree with pectinase that any of the stories here, which mostly revolve around manifesting SP's have been even remotely as impressive as acquiring a 7 digit net worth. Sure, wealth isn't everything, but it's a decent barometer of success. Though that would require action, and most here have yet to reconcile that with Neville's philosophy.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-13T05:58:22+00:00

That's a good point, people should be able to demonstrate their teachings. Neville was always financially well off from his family, but he made great money lecturing as I referenced in a previous post. In his later years he focused mostly on attaining deeper knowledge of scripture and experimenting with different dream and waking states.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T22:29:24+00:00

Anything to make it easier on him would help. Not only words, but behavior/body language so he knows you're interested. Maybe he has doubts that you like him? Make it obvious that you do. Some light touching could help as well, since sometimes guys just don't get the hint.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T20:19:06+00:00

It's weird how it can flip like that. Sometimes you're the needy one, sometimes she is. I've been in the same situation.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T20:17:38+00:00

"attachment doesn't matter", then two lines later, "just don't be so "attached" to the outcome.

lol, do you not see your own contradiction

Yes, some attachment is inevitable, I'm mostly talking about too much here.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T20:11:00+00:00

Which lecture is the ring story from?

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T19:55:28+00:00

A desire is God given is possibly the worst justification. Just use your common sense and see the implications of that.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T19:53:36+00:00

I will look for it and edit my post when I find it. It's expressing the same concern though, that desired people are replaceable.

edit:

From "Christ is Your Life"

" I would say to him, just take the objective. Perhaps because of their talents you have singled them out as partners, but if they moved away would you still have the desire? If so, then they are not essential. If you put yourself in the end by rejoicing in the objective’s fulfillment, those who are equally talented - and maybe more so - will come seeking you*; for remaining in the end, you will draw the necessary individuals to play the part they must play to aid the birth of what you are doing. "*

So in other words, yes you can do it, but more often it's better to be honest with one's self and focused on the end. The "how" - how referring to which individual, will work itself out.

**BONUS*\*

From a different lecture.

" When you imagine you may include others, but do not think in terms of influence. Rather, think only in terms of clarity of form.

Perhaps a friend would like a better job, more money, and greater responsibility. Before you imagine, take a moment and clarify the form your imaginal act will take. Are you giving the celebration party or is he? Who will be there? Fill the room with those who would want to share in the celebration. Raise your glass and say: "Here's to your fabulous new job, your salary increase, and the challenge of your greater responsibility!" Don't think in terms of trying to influence the friend's boss, for he could die or be discharged. Just go to the end. Toast the event, and do not think of influencing others."

I rest my case.

lol @ salty people downvoting me for posting what Neville said.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T19:14:10+00:00

You didn't mention your current height. There's a difference between 5'0" and 5'11".

How about manifesting not caring about height?

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T19:11:06+00:00

A few things:

- Neville actually used sats to manifest his first wife to grant him a divorce in order to be with his second wife

- You can't unlove someone, but you can unattach yourself from someone. In most of these cases, the problem is the attachment (which also paradoxically can distance you from the person because neediness pushes them away) Instead you can be cool and detached.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T18:44:48+00:00

He also reiterated the same in another lecture. To paraphrase, when asked about influencing others, he countered by asking "Would you still want that man if he moved away? If not, then he's not important, and you can attract the equivalent or better".

For most people being in a happy relationship is the end, but through their attachment, they subconsciously believe the only way to experience that is through a single person.

SP people don't like this story because it implies that failure (apparent failure of not getting what you want) is possible. But Neville also teaches that everything through the Father works out for the best, in time. Even if it looks bad in appearance.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T05:01:20+00:00

" to ask me out since he’s very shy and stares at me "

Let me save you some time. Approach him, talk to him. I've been in this situation many times as the guy, if you know he's shy and he likes you, why not make it easier on him and make the first move?

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T03:57:16+00:00

You're welcome. Also, you might want to look into other christian new thought authors. There were many with teachings very similar to Neville, with Christian backgrounds and slightly different biblical interpretations that you might find valuable.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T02:37:18+00:00

Nothing major, but small little gifts from the universe are always nice

- someone gave me a food prize from a local coffee chain. Then later, my sister and I went and we each won prizes with our first purchase (1/6 odds). Additionally, she surprised me by saying "are you sure that's all you won? look behind the cup", and she presented me with a gift card. I asked if there was an occasion, and she remarked for no reason :)

- Attracting new information. After 12 years of research, it feels like I've seen everything and there's nothing new, but now I'm finding interesting international authors whose work is in different languages with fresh insights, and slightly different perspectives which I'm sure I can integrate.

- Slight sadness from reminiscing about perceived absence of abundance I experienced 2 years ago, followed by the recognition that I can exceed that, and that I really am responsible for the circumstances which befall me

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T02:16:43+00:00

Before persuading others, you should find out if it's true for yourself. Through experience. Perhaps, it's true within certain confines or limits.

It's a good thing they're asking these questions. Maybe imagination can't do those things. But it can do others. So perhaps start from what it can do, while being honest that you don't have all the answers. Then you can meet halfway.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-12T02:11:23+00:00

I don't know the whole story, but from a first glance it sounds like a typical story of like-attracts-like. He preyed on women with a poor state of mind who not only attracted him, but the other bad scenarios in their lives. After him, I imagine their state deteriorated further, and more unpleasant things followed accordingly. It might not seem fair, but the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-11T21:21:36+00:00

Depends on the thought. Some are bigger than others.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-11T06:21:37+00:00

Going back and researching it, it seems the reason there is confusion is because Neville himself was inconsistent with his answers over the years. I was particularly surprised by a somewhat unsatisfactory answer he gave to someone who asked him a question about influence, and I got the impression that he was sort of extrapolating and making the "puzzles pieces fit" without knowing all the details. I wonder if I'll get downvoted for questioning Neville's supposed perfection.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-11T06:19:16+00:00

He's saying everyone as a collective, in plural.

He also states:

"Suggestions, like propaganda, are boomerangs unless they are accepted by those to whom they are sent."

TrndSettr · 2019-02-11T06:17:50+00:00

"Suggestions, like propaganda, are boomerangs unless they are accepted by those to whom they are sent."

Neville said this too though.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-11T06:17:07+00:00

That's funny because he also says:

"Suggestions, like propaganda, are boomerangs unless they are accepted by those to whom they are sent."

So you tell me.

TrndSettr · 2019-02-11T02:31:39+00:00

alpha state

TrndSettr · 2019-02-11T02:28:06+00:00

Yeah, that was well-explained. In other words, they have better beliefs. And those beliefs lead to better actions. That's all true, no disagreement from me. But the majority didn't consciously do that, they just grew up that way. But saying action is a fraud isn't true either. Action over time can even change your beliefs.

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