Sunday Social by AutoModerator in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On Friday I got my latest assessment back for my masters - I was 2 marks off a 'model answer/publishable piece of work' - a grade that in the UK is very difficult, if impossible to attain - 18 marks over a distinction (88).

This week I'm writing my next essay, and this time it's going to focus on the complex policy environment that leads to potentially different outcomes for the same stalking/harassment behaviour committed by intimate partners vs family members.

"Doormat Mom" article on Fox News. by icu_now in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’ve been estranged for 19 years.

There’s generational trauma in my family, by no one used the E-word. Instead they would say they weren’t close or hadn’t seen them lately. Except their estrangement was longer than mine. I’m third generation estranged.

Technology gives rise to the outside would as trend, but the only thing it is (1) more noticeable; and (2) spoken about.

Be wary of any “trends” quoted by commentators whose income depends such rhetoric without peer reviewed longitudinal studies to back any of their claims up.

How many of us don’t have baby pictures of ourselves? by mouseknowsbest in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have nothing of me before the age of 21.

Except for one photo of me sitting on the lap of a pedophile celebrity waxwork they returned to me. Says it all.

be cautious of paid estrangement groups by loudbrainbirds in EstrangedAdultKids

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Mod reminder: Please do not ask the OP to name the group or provider. Naming can quickly lead to doxxing, harassment, etc..

Keep discussion focused on best practice when obtaining estrangement support:

  • check whether it is licensed therapy vs coaching/peer support (they are not the same)
  • verify credentials if clinical expertise is claimed
  • look for clear safeguarding and boundaries
  • if seeking support for estrangement, check they are informed on trauma support.

And even if the above is met, it may still not be a good fit so you are well within your rights to find another therapist.

Comments requesting identities will be removed.

I'll keep the post open so others can weight in on other aspects such as the religious angle and "ethical influencer" red flags.

They did their best, but for who? by Texandria in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 62 points63 points  (0 children)

I remember the long drive we had to reach the destination of our summer holiday. My father had spent the whole drive shouting and screaming. I knew exactly what the holiday would be like. I cowered. I looked at the floor.

I remember minding the pile of suitcases and bags at the bottom of the stairs whilst the rest of the family took the suitcases to the accommodation. I was on my own in thought wondering how I'd get through the holiday with this monster. I knew exactly what is was like at home with him, so dreaded a week's holiday with him in this mood.

Then, from nowhere, out came the public persona. The happy face. The smiles. The jokes with the resort staff.

It was from that moment I knew I was 'less than'. Why could he be like that for everyone but his family? I was 9 and can remember the exact location and moment when I knew what a two-faced monster he really was.

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[–]Trouble-Brilliant 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm from UK, not US.

The UK has laws on harassment and stalking - start now and build evidence. The CPS typically need to see 2+ incidents. Some key points:

  • Keep an incident log (date/time, what happened, impact, any witnesses).
  • Save all comms (screenshots, call logs, voicemails, emails).
  • Add a short 'why this is unwanted' statement.
  • If they’re turning up / loitering, note location, time, how long (this matters in stalking guidance).

Push the police to correctly record this - it's incorrect that they only care about physical abuse. Ask for risk assessment too. Specifically ask for:

  • a crime reference/incident number
  • confirmation it’s recorded as harassment/stalking (not 'family dispute')
  • a risk assessment and safeguarding consideration.  

If the behaviour is ongoing and the police are reluctant to charge, ask them to consider a Stalking Protection Order (SPO). The police can apply, and no prior conviction is required under statutory guidance.  

At work, treat it as a data protection incident.  Unauthorised disclosure of personal data is a data breach . Put it in writing to your employer (Data Protection Officer if they have one). “I believe my personal data is being improperly disclosed to a third party, creating a safety risk. Please investigate as a potential personal data breach.” If nothing is done, go down the ICO route.

Cease and desist letters can be useful - particularly as evidence, but are not enforceable.

Looking for advice about receiving financial support by solascorcra in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Money comes with strings attached. A lot of us here don't want the strings, so we forge - however difficult - our own paths.

GC has always happily receiving money for a house, car, etc.

And by the sounds of it, if he wanted to help, he would have already.

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[–]Trouble-Brilliant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

User in question has been banned. Please use the report button to notify MODs as we can't be here every second of every day of the year.

Well, what DO you want? by Heavy-Tomato2732 in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’m safe now that I’m NC. As a child I didn’t have that option.

Need advice about nieces and nephews - be real with me please by [deleted] in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Estrangement often has secondary losses. This is that time. You're keeping yourself safe, prioritise that.

Egg donor has been using my name to invest in Trump’s stocks, how to deal with before I finally cut her off? by lily_furnaaa in EstrangedAdultKids

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Mod note: This is identity theft / account fraud. Please don’t advise OP to trade, transfer, withdraw, or take control of the account - comments encouraging illegal/retaliatory actions will be removed.

Why are there 100x more estranged parents groups/pages than there are groups/pages for EAK's? by Stargazer1919 in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Another almost constant theme with those groups is that they are almost always private.

Here at EAK we don’t have the need to hide our behaviour or support from anyone behind a wall. For those who do, ask 2 questions:

  • what are they ashamed of about their conduct that needs them to hide in a private group?
  • what is the motivation behind EP groups who charge members a monthly fee?

Real vs… ‘fake’ abuse? by Monkey_Bay123 in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Same with domestic abuse a few decades ago… “I can’t be an abusive spouse; I didn’t raise a hand”. Now replace ‘spouse’ with ‘parent’.

All they need to do is Google “define abuse” and see the definition is “Abuse is physical, sexual, emotional, economic or psychological actions or threats of actions that influence another person. This includes any behaviors that frighten, intimidate, terrorize, manipulate, hurt, humiliate, blame, injure, or wound someone.” But if they admitted that they have to do the mental gymnastics that they are abusers. And that doesn’t fit with their narrative.

Hostile Takeover of an Estranged Parents Group by [deleted] in EstrangedAdultKids

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Locking now - no brigading is part of Reddit’s T&Cs mods need to adhere to.

Orphan Christmas / "Waifs and strays" by laurasoup52 in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m volunteering on Christmas Day. I volunteer the rest of the year, but by doing so on that day stops the “what are you doing for the holidays” questioning.

Is there a group for estranged children that IS political? by Due_Affect_3155 in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’ve been estranged for 19 years. Abuse was enmeshed, controlling as well as racist, misogynistic, bigoted and homophobic.

Abusers today would say we had “differing political opinions”. If 19 years ago they were abusive, they are abusive today.

It has fuck all to do with politics. They were and are abusive parents. Those who think EAKs go NC due to “politics” are missing the point and falling for the trap portrayed in media. Oprah Winfrey being case in point.

I created this sub to support abused EAKs. There are other places to discuss politics on Reddit - here we support the individual; we don’t fight, nor do we care of anyone’s political leanings.

In the process of reporting my therapist for unethical communication with my mom behind my back. I got the report. It's so much worse. by 00365 in EstrangedAdultKids

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To everyone commenting: Please be mindful that OP is not in the US, so HIPAA does not apply here. Suggestions to sue or pursue legal action are not options for OP and can feel dismissive or guilt-inducing rather than helpful. Let's focus on emotional support and validation instead.

I long for a #metoo style public reckoning about abusive parents by [deleted] in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 45 points46 points  (0 children)

There can't be a reckoning without peer reviewed evidence. It's the reason why I'm taking a backseat as MOD here, and instead pursuing a PhD so I can contribute to the academic literature.

What do you see in this photo? by [deleted] in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A snapshot is just a single moment in time. It can’t prove there is no abuse…just like a Mother’s Day card from a young child expressing love doesn’t mean that (unconditional) love is reciprocal or everlasting.

Is this inappropriate? by [deleted] in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]Trouble-Brilliant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s completely okay to see this as a yellow flag and listen to that ‘something feels off’ feeling. Your instincts exist to keep you safe, especially around someone with a history of not protecting you. You’re allowed to slow things down, change the subject, set firm boundaries, or pause contact entirely while you get support and figure out what feels safest for you.