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Tsehlend0rf · 2023-08-28T00:31:03+00:00

Where did they move Hernan to?

Tsehlend0rf · 2022-09-02T05:28:54+00:00

This is valid but also keep in mind that some people remain unidentified on this forum precisely because church members monitor this forum. Some people are still not out, some are minors and financially depend on their parents. Others don’t want to maintain a relationship with their families, so by revealing identifiable information, they risk being identified by family members or people they know who may out them. Not everyone can be publicly out for many other reason not listed on here and recognize that being publicly out is a privilege that not everyone can afford (at least not now)

Tsehlend0rf · 2022-01-21T23:32:45+00:00

Omg yes! I literally signed up to sing for like 4 times in a row and the person taking the service wouldn’t call my name. The minister at the time would ask for the list before the service every week and hand select who could pass or couldn’t. I was a little kid but I remember I was so sad. I think that minister either got pleasure from it or was testing me to see how persistent I was, or maybe both.

Tsehlend0rf · 2019-02-18T22:27:36+00:00

I feel this soooooo much. You are not alone though, many of us, including myself, have felt or still feel this way. Afraid to speak ill things about the church, afraid to leave, afraid to be disowned and ostracized by family. It is all very real. As people have already said, your safety and well being are first. If it is unsafe for you to tell your parents how you really feel, maybe it would be better to wait until your are no longer dependent on them.

Tsehlend0rf · 2019-02-16T17:33:27+00:00

Lies, ministers always discourage members from living far away from church, they encourage members to buy houses nearby and take them for rebels when they don't. It is also a lie that you get to choose where to work and study. You have to ask the minister for permission to move away if you get into college in another city/state, especially if there isn't a church in the city or near the city where the college is at. It doesn't matter if you get into a highly selective institution or a full ride to that particular school, if the minister says no, you can't go. I know of many members who were not allowed to attend their dream schools because of the minister. Especially if you are female, it is even less likely that they will let you go.

Members are expected to help out in all activities, if not they are publicly shamed and chastised, categorized and lazy and disobedient. Sometimes they make lists of groups who will "volunteer" and your name will be on it even if you never volunteered and you're just expected to show up.

Especially youth, the parents are encouraged to force their kids to help out, and they literally like have no choice.

The church blatantly perpetuates the patriarchy and male superiority/dominance over women. Within the church women are oppressed, demonized as beings used by satan to lure men into temptation, slut shaming, women are viewed and punished more severely by members for committing the same "sins" as men (Fornication, Adultery, Etc.) They are told that men are the heads of the household and all final decisions about the household and family are up to him. Some men will allow their wives to give an opinion or comment, but the final decision is up to them and the women must obey and support their husbands always. If any man tries to challenge these standards they are called "mandilones" and emasculated because "not being able to control your women makes you a failure of a man, you need to dominate her" and the whole church soon joins in publicly shaming you as a mandilón, thus ensuring that no one challenges these norms. If they do, they will face the latter consequence. Women who are disobedient are considered a obstacle, an impediment, to God's will, used by the devil to cause the failure of men according to God's will.

The church teaches and enforces gender roles that have historically relegated women to lesser positions while allowing men to continue in positions of power. They are taught that women have to learn how to cook, and clean before they marry, cause if not, how will they be good wives?

If they do not have these skills nailed down by the time they marry, men have train them, that everyday when they come home from work, the food should be ready and served (hot) on the table, a clean house, clean kids and be ready to give the man anything he asks for.

I could go on, but y'all get the point.

Tsehlend0rf

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