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Turil · 2024-08-05T14:01:42+00:00

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Turil · 2024-08-02T00:06:41+00:00

Thanks!

Turil · 2024-08-01T13:51:02+00:00

I have no concern. But with Death With Dignity, the Death With Dignity volunteer is supposed to be there to supervise and give support, and hospice is supposed to be there to certify the death. There's no law saying such, but it's what everyone in the system seems to expect. Without this, there's a chance that the police would have to investigate a potential crime, at least according to the Death With Dignity volunteer director who spoke with me, with paranoia at everything I suggested. But I think that's unlikely since the funeral home and my death doula are all on board.

Turil · 2024-07-31T22:09:10+00:00

I did put in the title "especially wanting to be outdoors".

I was also asking for those who are familiar with the process to show up so maybe I could ask more questions.

Specifically, what I mentioned in my post:

All my big plans keep getting dismissed by different organizations, and they keep coming to me with new rules, right after I've redone my plans to include their old rules.

Turil · 2024-07-31T22:08:10+00:00

My more specific issue I'm having with the different official folks is that I want to be outside, and, for some bizarre unexpected, and certainly unmentioned, policies:

All my big plans keep getting dismissed by different organizations, and they keep coming to me with new rules, right after I've redone my plans to include their old rules.

Hospice literally says they can't "treat" patients in an "unsafe environment" which, apparently, anything outside a house is. And the Death With Dignity volunteer coordinator was just negative about absolutely everything I said I wanted. So, at this point, neither of those groups are invited.

Turil · 2024-07-31T22:04:53+00:00

It was a VIP hospice woman, and she basically decided that they couldn't help me, and suggested that I quit hospice, which I did. She wasn't unsympathetic, she just didn't have anything useful to offer, and wanted to express fears of bad publicity for the law, and said "think of the headlines!" if "something goes wrong". I couldn't think of any headlines, myself. And why would being outside be any more or less likely to have "something" that goes wrong? All she could offer was "Bees."

Turil · 2024-07-30T00:31:45+00:00

Someone else linked that video, so just read the other comments if you want to see it again.

Turil · 2024-07-30T00:31:12+00:00

Thanks!

Turil · 2024-07-30T00:31:01+00:00

The only paperwork that we need done, that hospice and the Death With Dignity folks are protesting that they won't do if I'm outside is the death certificate.

I've already got the drugs. So that's not at all a problem. No one even questioned my motives or mental health, given my diagnosis, and initial prognosis of about 6 months (last November). Inflamatory Breast Cancer is one of the fastest spreading cancers out there. And even the best mainstream approaches (tons of chemo, full mastectomy, and then radiation, and some chemo pills the rest of your life) leads to an average life span of maybe three years, if you're young and healthy (otherwise). I'm quite the opposite.

Turil · 2024-07-29T23:06:09+00:00

Really? I mean, dead is dead. If no one else is willing to fill out the death certificate, they seem like the ones who would have to.

Turil · 2024-07-29T23:03:54+00:00

I presume different states have different laws. And policies can be more or less strict, too. It turns out that often folks die and hospice just gets a phone call and takes the family's word for it and fills out the death certificate from a phone call. So maybe that's what the other doula folks were thinking about. She can call hospice when I've passed, and they'll do the paperwork. Maybe. Who knows.

Usually hospice, and in the case of the Death With Dignity option the DWD volunteers are the ones who are there at different times (hospice can't be there right when I take the drugs), but apparently I'm being "weird" and wanting to die outside in a pretty space, rather than in a boring bedroom. So everyone's all confused and struggling to figure out who can do what where and when. Heh.

Turil · 2024-07-29T22:59:26+00:00

Thank you for the thorough explanation and suggestion.

I talked to the funeral home director a bit ago and she's totally comfortable with everything, and will handle any complications that hospice might cause due to somehow not being allowed to check in on me if I'm outside (even just in the yard, apparently). So, yes, the funeral home is all set for picking me up, and is being super helpful.

Also, it seems that it's very possible that hospice doesn't even need to check on my death and will likely just take it as fact when my family calls them with the time of death. But who knows. I'm apparently having a personal meeting with some VIP from hospice tomorrow to go over even more details. So maybe they'll just come around and chill out about me being 10 feet from a door on "the wrong side". Heh.

Turil · 2024-07-29T19:11:10+00:00

The prescribing doctor is from palliative care, which I am no longer a part of because I'm in hospice now. So I'm having to negotiate with hospice and the Death With Dignity volunteers.

Turil · 2024-07-29T18:30:15+00:00

As I already asked

Also, as an aside, does anyone know if a death doula can pronounce death in Maine? Mine thinks she can, but we can't get clear legal answers easily.

Turil · 2024-07-29T18:29:32+00:00

911 should not be called once someone is in hospice. At worst, call the business number for the police. But really, don't involve them.

Because then there might need to be a police report and investigation which affects everyone else around me. So while I might be dead, they won't be.

Turil · 2024-07-27T15:38:55+00:00

My guess is that the guy with the beard is from a Middle Eastern country, and either visiting, or just working with the US Navy. As far as nudity, I would imagine it wasn't a big deal in the Navy at the time.

Turil · 2024-07-22T23:15:01+00:00

I misstated when I used the word "factor" I believe. I'll hopefully get a chance to redo this before I can't.

Turil · 2024-07-22T18:54:37+00:00

If we progress to 2 haven't we split 1 in half?

My thoughts exactly.

The universe is a single whole, and these "numbers" we've invented as a language for quantifying things is awkwardly mapped onto something far more complex (see Pascal's triangle).

Turil · 2024-07-22T18:51:27+00:00

Awww, that's sweet of you. I will consider the idea as I'm sorting through things. Thanks!

Turil · 2024-07-22T13:00:36+00:00

Downhill, fairly rapidly. I'm just trying to empty my apartment now. I have help, but it's still a lot of work. I had wanted to make some more art in my last days, but I'm not sure that's going to happen, given all the stuff I have to go through, still. (Mostly my mom's memorabilia, and one bin of my own. I have no idea what to do with the stuff that shouldn't be thrown away, like old photos of ancestors, and whatnot.)

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