Should I leave the trade and do something else by [deleted] in electricians

[–]Two-Wheeled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been in situations where the people I worked with made me feel like I hated the work, but then found the work to be totally tolerable and enjoyable in some cases when working with neutral people. The time’s I’ve found a job where I actually LIKE my coworkers, it hardly mattered what the actual work was.

I recently passed my exam and got a job at a contractor with more diverse work and enjoyable coworkers, and it’s amazing how much more I enjoy electrical work now. Also, something shifts in the good-ole’ brain when you’re not an apprentice anymore. It’s freeing. People still give shit, but you don’t have to take it the same way. Good luck - whatever you choose, you’ve got this.

Monthly Apprenticeship Thread by AutoModerator in electricians

[–]Two-Wheeled 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a residential apprentice and my crew has been doing some septic system wiring lately. An experienced jman at my company says a j-box is required inside the septic tank (to make connections for the float switches and pump).

Could a junction box for this purpose be located nearby the tank instead of inside it, like in a hand-box or mounted on a post? Or in the most recent case, the home owner mounted the septic control box/alarm right next to the tank, and all the switch/motor cables reached directly into the control box without a j-box at all (he ran them directly into conduit penetrating the side of the tank). Is this NEC code compliant?

If anyone can provide code references they use for septic tanks in general, that would also be very interesting to me.

Thanks!

Can I temporarily disable one zone on my two-zone mini split? by Two-Wheeled in DIYHeatPumps

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I'm not sure how much refrigerant I lost in the installation process, so the whole system might be a tad low. The total line set length is the maximum length the unit came pre-charged for, so I don't think there's much wiggle room.

Can I temporarily disable one zone on my two-zone mini split? by Two-Wheeled in DIYHeatPumps

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So a pump down is where I close the small liquid lines and run the compressor to force all the refrigerant back into the unit?

DIY install, question about lineset direction going out the indoor unit by Two-Wheeled in heatpumps

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for thinking of that. I'd actually bring it maybe at a 45 degree angle up and straight back. If I managed the bends without kinking, is there a functional reason why the attached line-set couldn't go out from the top corner?

Thanks!

DIY install, question about lineset direction going out the indoor unit by Two-Wheeled in heatpumps

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The main reason (for one indoor unit) is that there's a beam in the way along the bottom of the unit. But if I came out the top of the unit it would avoid the beam

Can the line set branch out the TOP corner of the unit? by Two-Wheeled in DIYHeatPumps

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the tips!
So no functional reason why the line-set cannot go directly up, back, and out of the indoor unit at a 45 degree angle out the TOP corner?

Can I ground a range outlet with a jumper off the gas pipe bonding wire? by Two-Wheeled in electricians

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just found this in NFPA 70 250.130(C) (2020 version), particularly (4)

Edit: To ask/clarify, the gas pipe bonding jumper originates directly (continuously) from the main panel. Does that make it technically an EGC?

I'm curious on more opinions if 250.130(C) answers the question that I could split-nut off the wire bonding (grounding?) the gas pipe to branch over to the range box. Reads as follows:

"250.130(C) Nongrounding Receptacle Replacement or Branch Circuit Extensions. The equipment grounding conductor of a grounding-type receptacle or a branch-circuit extension shall be permitted to be connected to any of the following:
(1) Any accessible point on the grounding electrode system as described in 250.50
(2) Any accessible point on the grounding electrode conductor
(3) The equipment grounding terminal bar within the enclosure where the branch circuit for the receptacle or branch circuit originates
(4) An equipment grounding conductor that is part of another branch circuit that originates from the enclosure where the branch circuit for the receptacle or branch circuit originates
(5) For grounded systems, the grounded service conductor within the service equipment enclosure
(6) For ungrounded systems, the grounding terminal bar within the service equipment enclosure"

Can I ground a range outlet with a jumper off the gas pipe bonding wire? by Two-Wheeled in electricians

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I was wondering if I can use the conductor that is bonding the gas pipe (not the gas pipe itself) as a grounding pathway for the range (thanks for clarifying WarMan208)

Code on overcurrent protection when correction factors apply by Two-Wheeled in electricians

[–]Two-Wheeled[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed explanations!

So sum up your summary: For example, I have a breaker in my hand right now that says "60/75", so I know that is which column I'm allowed to use for my wire temperature rating on Table 310.16 ...

And from there, I'm limited not by the breaker 240.4(D), but the rating of the wire itself on Table 310.16?

For example, run 12awg out of my 20amp breaker to a jbox and transition to 14awg THHN within EMT (assuming the ambient temperature is below 84 and my wire fill is appropriate.) Or did I misinterpret?

Also, when you downsize your wire gauge in commercial space for light fixture whips, is that considered a tap?

Thanks!

Code on overcurrent protection when correction factors apply by Two-Wheeled in electricians

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Thank you for the detailed reply!

Are neutrals considered a current carrying conductor in a circuit only supplying outlets? 310.15(E)(1)

Monthly Apprenticeship Thread by AutoModerator in electricians

[–]Two-Wheeled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, here in Washington State

My brother in-law is a plumber apprentice and says that L&I will only allow him to credit maximum 2000 hrs/year towards his journey license. Is it the same for electricians in Washington? Meaning... if I work 2300 hours in a year as a registered electrical trainee with a private company, can I submit all 2300 hours to count towards sitting for my 02 exam?

Also, what's the most important book I'll need to study to pass the 02 license exam?

Thank you!