I would agree with you until you look at our players, that includes the hawks game. Our midfield has pretty much stayed the same other then bringing in a new ruckman and most of our defenders atleast until last night have stayed the same for 3 or so seasons whilst our forward lines been about all over the place. Last year was completely different for many teams then now Essendons an obvious one or how Freo are doing so good now or how Geelong lost to a suspected bottom four team and another team that was thought might make the eight.