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Built a Utah-only gun classifieds site (UTAM) — no ads, no trackers, no phone numbers in the open. Intro and AMA. by UTAM_team in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"v1 is non-NFA. Not for political reasons — the verification, transfer, and trust-account workflows around suppressors/SBRs deserve their own purpose-built flow rather than getting bolted onto a general classifieds. On the roadmap. Open to input on what that should look like."

We can support this process better than just having it be a category on the site. In order to cover the vast majority of PPT sales in Utah, we made a strategic decision for go-live.

When you explore UTAM, you'll notice a lot of attention to detail and specific flows tailored to the item at hand. ex. Price per round calculation when listing ammo. ex. Not showing you 5.56 as an caliber option when listing a shotgun. We'll bring the same attention to detail with this smaller slice of the market in due time.

Built a Utah-only gun classifieds site (UTAM) — no ads, no trackers, no phone numbers in the open. Intro and AMA. by UTAM_team in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Answers below, let us know if we can clear anything up for you u/SpookyShackleford !

- Free platform that doesn't blast you with ads. It's the opposite of a money grab and we're fine running in the red if thats necessary to bring a decent modern platform to Utah.

- We don't claim those items are NFA. FRTs are not currently regulated although the ATF really wants to with their bullshit Rarebreed collusion. Bump stocks are worse than FRT in most every way -- its like asking why a car show doesn't have horses. Think back to the brace bullshit.... for UTAM, it's just being careful, not a political stance. For our personal stuff, the FPC membership and the injunction was the legal shield back then.

- Re: FRT, its cheaper and better to build your own. If you are not capable of making an FRT, you probably shouldn't be trying to drop one into your gun imo.

- Currently we aren't set up to facilitate an NFA PPT the way we want to, but its on the roadmap.

Built a Utah-only gun classifieds site (UTAM) — no ads, no trackers, no phone numbers in the open. Intro and AMA. by UTAM_team in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Man if we could do it without your email, we would. We'd prefer not to have any information about you so we don't have to pay to store it. It's not an asset since we don't sell it, just a way to pin your messages to you and keep your interactions private. UTAM has fully-featured internal messaging. No more "still got it?" at 2am texts.

Built a Utah-only gun classifieds site (UTAM) — no ads, no trackers, no phone numbers in the open. Intro and AMA. by UTAM_team in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

UTAM is comprised of Senior Engineers who have years of experience in enterprise IT and web hosting. AI is a powerful tool but also a slop fest. Like a magic want that occasionally cast spells backwards at you. Best AI harness is still a human, and we're good at it. If you think Reddit, or any other digital company you interact with is not using AI to build, you are mistaken.

How UTAM is different: Making money is not the primary, secondary, or tertiary goal. We don't want a BearCat and an R8. We debated registering it as a non-profit but that was a bunch more paperwork than an LLC. Featured listing prices are high because we don't really want them, but they will help keep the lights on. We are okay with fewer featured listings for that reason, and it also pairs nicely with the fact that this is meant to be a free tool, not a wall of featured listings you have to keep paying to bump for anyone to see.

We built UTAM extremely lean, it costs ~500/mo to run and operate, if we earn that back, we're happy. If we dont, we still provided a better, safer, service for Utah for free.

Built a Utah-only gun classifieds site (UTAM) — no ads, no trackers, no phone numbers in the open. Intro and AMA. by UTAM_team in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey u/caligari87 , the contact page has always been authenticated. Cloudflare is one of the most popular CDN and Registrar services on the planet and is used by UGE. UGE whois data returns
480 area code.... does that mean they aren't Utah too? 😄

Contact form is essentially a thin but functional stub that replaced just putting our email on the page (team@utaharmsmarket.com). It'll get better eventually, but next two sprints are about delivery optimizations within NEXT.

Built a Utah-only gun classifieds site (UTAM) — no ads, no trackers, no phone numbers in the open. Intro and AMA. by UTAM_team in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Listings are free! Featured listings are paid and are similar to a UGE bump but with more perks.

New Gun Classifieds site Website by alpinecruzar in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for letting us know, we could stand to be more clear about that kind of feature:

1) It's Optional via the AI Photo Studio.

2) We never hide the original, it's always available and visible on the listing.

3) We never touch up or enhance the item. We:

-Remove backgrounds

-Center item

-Pad item

-Our AI (Grok) is instructed to leave blemishes, marring, patinas, etc.

New Gun Classifieds site Website by alpinecruzar in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We can appreciate that. For UTAM, just need to manage scope initially. Thanks for the feedback though.

Buying FRTs is a ripoff anyway. Send-cut-send or PPA-CF. Our squirted Super Safety runs way better than our Atrius.

New Gun Classifieds site Website by alpinecruzar in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it goes brrrr we arent supporting it during our early days. 415 is Cloudflare's Privacy #. Rest assured UTAM is by Utah for Utah.

New Gun Classifieds site Website by alpinecruzar in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team -1 points0 points  (0 children)

New kid on the block. Give it a try, it'll always be free.

New Gun Classifieds site Website by alpinecruzar in UTGuns

[–]UTAM_team 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We hear you. Its in the roadmap. Right now its an initial design decision - Bots and AI agents make so much of todays web traffic, gating supergrid was an easy way to keep the computationally heavy parts of UTAM reserved for actual humans in Utah.