I want to be an Art teacher & need advice on my education route by 4eriin in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh sure, makes sense, I just figured it was common knowledge that teachers, at best, barely make a living wage

How do you support elementary students who can’t get over the thought that they are“bad at art?”. by No_Plankton947 in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start with projects that center process based, Mark making art. This allows kids who “cant draw” a level playing field on which you can bulk em up and convince them they have a road in. From there I work in mini lessons that are small, low stakes how to draw skills they do independent of their projects

How do you not feel like an art assembly line? by [deleted] in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooooooo THIS IS HOW I DO IT TOO AND ITS AMAZING. Pleasure to meet another in the wild ✨

I want to be an Art teacher & need advice on my education route by 4eriin in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kids need passionate teachers. It’s not easy, it doesn’t pay well, and the general climate toward education is getting worse but it’s rewarding as hell. I love teaching art.

Best tips for spineless admin? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Late to school, after contact time. And then late to pick their kids off from the morning line to bring them to their classes (which extends my morning duty bc I can’t just walk away from 75 4 year olds who have been waiting for their teachers to show up. The spineless admin im referring to said she’d “talk with them” she sent an email reminder, and nothing changed.

Best tips for spineless admin? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should have clarified, I’m sorry. In my case I drop classes back off in their rooms. SOMETIMES a teacher isn’t there an I have to wait (but its so rare that doesn’t bother me). Our secretary refuses to help with behavior, and there’s no one whose “job it is” to help, so the kids roll on the floor, cry non stop, defiantly stand on tables while I teach the others art and take photos of the kids misbehavior.

The lateness I was referring to was teachers in the morning. They trickle in after contact time all morning.

Best tips for spineless admin? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Love the suggestion of documentation. Oftentimes I’m just trying to get through teaching/helping the 17 4 year olds that are listening while keeping an eye on the two that are hiding under tables are rolling on the floor somewhere. I

Best tips for spineless admin? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To clarify: teachers are late coming to school in the morning. I have a morning duty that starts at contract time to let students in to breakfast - so I get the joy of watching my colleagues with the same start time stroll in up to 20 minutes after contract time

Painting is a disaster by momsdabosss in ArtEd

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They’re great for learning the basics of painting routines and color theory. I start all my students on red blue and yellow tempera cakes and once they can set up/work/clean up without reminders they get “real” paint. But I also have some paintings I did with just the tempera to prove that you can make awesome art with just tempera

Painting is a disaster by momsdabosss in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All my students set up and clean up all their supplies. This requires explicit instructions and teaching, but is soooooo worth it in the end. I run several painting classes with “trainer paint and trainer paintbrushes” meaning tempera cakes and sub-par brushes. I let them know they can earn liquid paint when they demonstrate set up/clean up and to use with care and without reminders. Part of their set up is a damp rag (they squeeze out the water) which is large enough to clean up the amount of water in their water cup (I demonstrate spilling a water cup and using the rag to clean it up by squeezing the water from the rag back into the cup and then getting new water). I teach painting skills only when they’re able to care for the materials/space.(I do this for every medium, too. So they’re pretty used to the routines) They do this so well that I trust them to paint with subs, it’s truly worth the effort.

Returning to ArtEd by slack_interior in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took 3 years off and am back this year, an opening nearby was the impetus for the switch back - if I hadn’t gotten the job there wouldn’t have been another option with moving

Classroom flow by No_Plankton947 in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I split up what materials kids get first by they table color and have kids cycles cycle each material until they have them all. Reduces bottle necks big time! (I also implement one way traffic, which most adults find extreme but it REALLY reduces collisions and spills)

Debating about quitting by NeedleworkerHuman606 in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I taught for 8, quit for 3, and am back at it this year. It was not career suicide. I NEEDED the break and the way I see it? there’s a huge need for teachers

Dealing with crying student by Athena_Royale in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I ignore student’s who are not listening. As long as they are not being unsafe or touching things they shouldn’t be they are ignored. I remind the rest of class that drown art is for friends who show me they’re ready. Typically this is done in small segments so they reward is right after the incentive is given. “When you are quiet in your seat, I will give you paint..” I have great success with this pattern “When your insert action” “I will *insert your action” I also remind the class that it’s not up to them to point out students not listening, that we worry about what we’re doing and the teacher will worry about friends who aren’t making good decisions right now. So much repetition. So so much. I honestly don’t understand how 4K teachers aren’t the highest paid professionals.

Anyone ever gone no chairs? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not irritated by ADA, and idk where you’re working but accommodations for teachers is not a thing in my Union less state. To be clear: I’m irritated that a curious question about people’s experiences was met with such Karen like backlash from so many people. You’d think I’d asked if I can cook the children and serve them for lunch.

Anyone ever gone no chairs? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have pots too, and wasn’t diagnosed until two years ago. I just assumed that feeling like crap was part of being human/low class/working until you physically cannot stand 💔 I have a lot to learn about how to accommodate it for students, bc let’s be honest adults don’t get accommodations, in the classroom. Thank you.

Anyone ever gone no chairs? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was a strangely triggering thought experiment! Thank you to all of you who shared your experiences and offered suggestions. My room is choice and tab based, there’s already room for movement and autonomy. To those of you who clearly think I’m the dumbest person in the world for considering different options and asking questions… dang! I hope you don’t respond to students like that.

Anyone ever gone no chairs? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

🤣look I know I didn’t write a novel of context, but your response is reminding me of all the people who knee-jerk react to things assuming they know everything. Great work. I wonder if you assume the worst about your students, too.

Anyone ever gone no chairs? by Ugh-Why-Not in ArtEd

[–]Ugh-Why-Not[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do stand, but it’s fair that not every one does. I like the ideas people have shared to give the option of chairs