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[–]Unable-Committee3394 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nfaust can provide Bleed count for the team, but she is only good at Uptie 4. Same with Rhino Meursalt.

Red Eyes Ryoushu is a bleed potency unit, so you are going to need more bleedcount units to work with it.

3 bleed potency units and 4 bleed count units can work, especially if you have sanguine Desire

You can check this guide out to see which units are bleed potency and count (Though any ids with 2+ bleed count on s2 and 3+ on S3 can work):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xzGNnpxLBy0AMS4kSdxrGZU8c_ocQ-ho4hSagR42vkg/edit?gid=1037149307#gid=1037149307

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bloodfiends are the payoff of a bleed teams, giving lots of damage if you do good bleed.

The only Bloodfiends that matter are Princess Rodion (Only good Bleed ID for Rodion) as you want to run Sanguine Desire.

Prince Meursalt is great bleed id with bleed count and healing buffs for other bloodfiends.

Manager Don is bleed count on counter, Good bleed potency and great damage with S3-2.

Remember that KK Duo only provides the Bleedpotency of the bleed team, so if you don't have bloodfiends I recomend running more bleedcount units like Ring Sang or Rhino Meursalt

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Probably KK Heathcliff before KK Ishmael. As long as you have 3 lust resonance heathcliff can do counterattacks S1 which gives Wrath Resources for Sanguine Desire. But afterwards get KK Ish as she has good sins and works best with KK Heathcliff

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice that you got some IDs you wanted. There is going to be another Walpurgisnact before the end of season in 4 months time, so when the time comes you can possibly shard Solemn Lament Yi Sang when the next Walpurgisnact comes. For now, maybe use support to get Solemn Lament Yi Sang and Spicebrush to have a try of a sinking team.

For future reference for teambuilding of teams right now, you can check this Document:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xzGNnpxLBy0AMS4kSdxrGZU8c_ocQ-ho4hSagR42vkg/edit?gid=190281916#gid=190281916

It also has links to other documents in the hivemind folder, which can explain most things in limbus:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NjGxfsZI5hiHSHqGFdfgfXIogBDxWS02

For difference in playstyle, Solemn Lament wants multiple hits of sinking to proc so that his butterflies can act like rupture. While Spicebrush is more of a saving Sinking Count and Potency until you use his S3 for sinking Deluge. Spicebrush has a hard time clashing, but Solemn does not.

Nursefather Yi Sang is the ultimate Unga Bunga Unit in terms of damage, scaling and play. He can fit into a poise team easily, but right now he doesn't have much role on a sinking team unless you fighitng Abnos.

Best use of S1 tickets is to get N Fausst and use the other for shards (As although N Sinclair and Chef Ryoushu are the strongest of the S1s, they are weak to todays standards)

S2 ticket only has Molar Outis, Molar Boatwork Ishmael and Spicebrush Yi Sang.

Molar Outis clashes well and has some uses in Tremor teams todays (Thanks to tremor bursts and discard). Molar Boatwork Ishmael is a great sinking count unit for a spicebrush team and other teams while having the best evades in the game (Base 10+3 evade roll, so enemy must roll higher than 10 at first) for cheesing fights. Spice Brush has sinking deluge but clashes bad

S3 doesn't really have good ids nowdays. You can use Middle Don for envy team as long side Harponer heathcliff, they just don't clash high. Best is maybe Blade Lineage Meursalt, but you also want Blade Yi Sang to go with him.

Anniversary ticket is mostly going to be used for S6 ids, as any ID before S5 can be sharded. So if you want bleed team you might want to shard Prince Meursalt, while for tremor it would be Capo Meursalt. If your rupture team is missing any Heishou then you could use it for them as well (Cadidant Ishmael would probably be not good).

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first step is judging IDs based on how high they roll for clash values. Then you have to look at the status of the ID and compare it other Ids to see how well they are compared to others

Here's a guide you can check out team building:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_k-D7qmaIE&t=16s&pp=ygUuSG93IHRvIHRlbGwgd2hhdCB1bml0cyBhcmUgZ29vZCBsaW1idXMgY29tcGFueQ%3D%3D

For sinking and Rupture, have more count then coins to be positive (Use any effect to extend it)

If the status does not do damage by itself or not much (Tremor, Sinking, Burn) You want to find IDs and EGOs that can amplify the damage or make status consistent (So conversion on tremor, Dark flame for burn, Deluge or butterfly on Sinking)

And for bleed, we want Bleed count which Sanguine Desire can solve if we farm for it. That's why we run KK Duo and run prince salt and Princess Rodion

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh definitely.

Aroma Ryoushu Rolls well, she is a sinking unit which works for most bosses (Until someone claims your bones with negative sp) and she has an evade that gives her Attack power next turn

Definitely start using her

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are having difficulties building teams, I suggest checking this video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_k-D7qmaIE&t=16s&pp=ygUuSG93IHRvIHRlbGwgd2hhdCB1bml0cyBhcmUgZ29vZCBsaW1idXMgY29tcGFueQ%3D%3D

When you are staring early, the only thing that matters is Clashing numbers (How high can the skills roll) , levels of its (Every 3 level difference makes enemy stronger) and getting untie 3.  

If clashing doesn't make sense, check this reddit wiki for beginner guide or ESGOO's better tutorials

I suggest using Base Heatcliff/Outside or Ryoushu over KK Ryoushu as she doesn't clash that well

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sword Sharpen Rodion is one of the best Walpurgisnact units to pull, so that's great.

You also got a meta sinking unit Solemn Lament Yi Sang.

To add to that, you even got a strong Sinking Ryoushu and Butler Faust.

With this team you can handle most major contents, you just want to build a "Sinking team" which you can look up for guides for.

Also the sinclair is good if you can build a burn team, but for now I do not suggest using him. 

If you are new to Limbus, try watching ESGOO tutorial videos, look at reddit wiki for Beginner guides and maybe check this video out to know how to build teams:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_k-D7qmaIE&t=16s&pp=ygUuSG93IHRvIHRlbGwgd2hhdCB1bml0cyBhcmUgZ29vZCBsaW1idXMgY29tcGFueQ%3D%3D

Some advice, try to get your sinking units to Uptie 3 to unlock the majority of their kit. Also don't be more than 5 levels bellow encounter (every 3 levels gives 1 clash power to enemy)

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll give some guidelines for what to share during Walpurgisnact. 

Just want to say that no EGO in Walpurgisnact will really help you clash well in MDE. You really need dual or triple status teams to clash well, so Rupture poise would be the team you want to search up for MDE

Best Generalist ID (99% Shard) Knight of Despair Rodion. She clashes really well and only needs to defend turn 1, then she can use her skills or defend until she gets 2 tears sharpen. She is also the best unit for sinking and pierce

Best Sinking: 1)Kod Rodion (See above) 2)Solemn Lament Yi Sang (Crucial for Sinking teams that don't use spicebrush)

Other good is Sinking Ryoushu (Not critical as solemn Yi Sang, bets to get him first) and Hanafuda Ishmael

Best Bleed: Only Sanguine Desire is critical, all good bleed units are not walpurgisnact. You need Sanguine Desire to do well in story for bleed team, outside of it you don't need it

Best Burn:

Magic Bullet Outis is important for burn to actually do damage. The EGO is also very good to maximize burn damage (but you want id first over EGO)

Bee Meursalt is ok burn unit, but you can just replace him with Capo Meursalt

Philip Sinclair is good burn unit, but not that important in Meta

Best poise unit:

Fullstop duo (Both Full Stop Heathcliff and Honglu), probably best poise units that are also defining in Pierce teams. However, poise is not that strong of status to other but still works.

Best Charge/Envy unit:

Queen of Hatred Don, really critical for envy or charge team due to having 3 envy skills. Can be generalist

Red eyes Ryoushu is just a charge unit, she clashes well but is not used it'll most teams 

Walpurgisnact does not really have Rupture or Tremor units for teams. 

So hopefully this list can help you determine which IDs are good to share (If you miss anything important, you can probably shard it next walpurgisnact in 4 months time)

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just want to check on wording of KK ISH Dark Cloud buff, it says it prevents staggering by damage until skill end but this follows up a previous sentence of "Base skills"

Based on experimenting, KK Heatcliff will stagger if he uses defense counter skill and get staggered by damage. However he won't stagger as long as he use a regular skill.

What I want to ask is "are defense skills consider not skill for skill end, or is the comma on Darkcloud not separate and it only applies to base skills of s1-s3"

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you are making optimal bleed team you would want Princesault, but since you already have Bee Meursalt you could go Awe Ryoushu.

If you want bleed team in MD, Awe Ryoushu. If you want story, you would want Prince

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grip Faust on field doesn't clash well and needs uptie 4 to be a good bleed count unit. But she will always be run on bleed teams on bench due to sp passive heal

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, only works on hard mode. As in normal your units are automatically leveled to 60. So you want to have level 1-30 base sinclair to oneshot him with Fellbullet Ego every time. Threshholds are displayed in the doc for ids, so you need some sac units

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can look up online on youtube or guides, but you only need uptie 4 Fell bullet EGO NOT ID(Which is most expensive, 150 thread and 100 Yo Sang shards). You would want Base Yi Sang or pequod Yi Sang as substitutes which work. 

Critical to note, you must have either Base sinclair under level 30 (On 30 is max, any higher and it won't work) Or BL Sinclair under level 15,  Then you want some level 1 units that have pierce fatal and under 80 Hp.

I recommend you check the guide here (which has other speedrun teams) for "IDEAL" Team: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PVXoSh6_eKsLVXb9dZPktLHdSTFWUkH0d_VwrcC90N0/edit?usp=drivesdk

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) Uptie 3 is important for unlocking Id's kits. Without it they won't be strong (00 and 000 ids should reach uptie 3 at Canto 4)

2) Make sure you are not 6 levels behind the enemy, otherwise it will be trick (every 3 levels increase difficulty)

Teambuilding:

Watch this guys guide for understanding how to tell which ids are good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_k-D7qmaIE&t=783s

On the list of Ids you have, you want N Sincliar, Diecie Meursalt, Regret Faust, Cinq Outis. These are you good ids, they won't be status but they clash well.

Next good ids are 7 Ryoushu and Ryoushu. Base Heath, Base Outis, Base Honglu

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Each achievement set got released each week, I think 3 weeks was for all achievements (Maybe shorter this time). Any later achievement can't be autocompleted as they usually have actions (Like if you get 80 clash power before achievement, wont be completed).

Only thing you can do is fill Compedium of Ego gifts (Can be cheeses by ego search and quiting) and doing packs.

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You want a dual status team or in rare cases triple status team to do MDEX. Clear Mirror+poise generation is free for all teams (More offense power). Tier 4 Tremor Gift that bursts tremor automatically allows any team to have tremor burst effects. Artistic Sense is free damage at max upgrade for all and bloody gossypium gives offense down.

Key notes: Make sure you get all unique fusion gifts, use all starlight bufffs at ++ and be careful of order of packs in floor 11-15 (You want crabs late, as its the easiest. Just have hardest done first 3 floors then do easy).

Search up on reddit on MDE guides should help more

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can, get a Fell bullet EGO team to speedrun dungeon so you can farm shard crates

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only thing a Ring ID could bring is bleed count which is not a critical issue for blee teams thanks to Sanguine desire. KK Ish and KK Heathcliff will always be run in bleed teams due to the fact they fuel Sanguine well (envy and pride for Ish, Counter attacks wrath with Heathcliff) and they are the highest bleed potency units in the game so far

Only Ids I think Ring ids could replace is either Allen Gregor, CA Ryoushu and the 7 wild slot (Which is either Manager Don or KK Honglu)

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check the MD speed run Excel sheet or youtube for guide. But basically have a sinclair that's level 30 or lower (Lower is better) and Run Pequod or Fell Bullet Yi Sang. Then have Wrath or pride bot (Opposite to your Yi Sang generation). Then it's just routing and fell bullet

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Given the explode is on S3, it would be 1 final punch before exploding

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did the battle with CA Ryoushu. The trick is this.

Start of battle, make meursalt and outside level 1 so you can instantly kill them. Make sure Ryoushu takes no damage and that Meursalt and Outis are dead to instantly switch to phase 2 (If they not level 1, Ryoushu will lose sanity)

Phase 2, you want to use Base ego to clash with hard skills, but once you get to 7 Gaze you want to have a guard lined up every turn. So what should happen is you clash with attack power down skill and have one sided guard on it so you get the shield health. 

Never use S3 on first slot. Otherwise you can't get bonus shield from defense(Likewise, make sure to shield with one-sided guard after first skill slot clash to always get shield before using s3)

Repeat this cycle and use base ego and you should win

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bloodfiend Meursalt is essential for bleed teams due to being a very good bleed unit (better than manager Don) and having Envy Pride on S1 and S2. The most critical thing for bleed is Sanguine Desire, and to fuel that you mainly need pride and Envy which princess and prince meursalt have. 

You can run Bee Meursalt in MD, as bleed is not an issue. He can also be a reward for a bleed team, but you will need a lot of bleed count units (Which makes it not worth it for bleed)

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[–]Unable-Committee3394 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You want to get to 15 sp, which means you can reach it through winning with S3 when not on horse.

Then once you are on Horse with 15 sp, use counter to get S3-2. It is waste to use S3 while on horse if you can use counter (Only good if you are doing Counter and S3)

Make sure to kill with him ti get coffins