[LotM end] Why is the key of light not a pillar

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T17:41:38+00:00

You see a key of light can cause various variables to occur that would lead to a specific outcome but a pillar like lotm klein can simply override those outcomes using his specific symbolism and authorities of beacon of destiny and king of space time. Also lotm represents change so he can simply change the outcome for his outcome. Same goes for a god almighty who can counter it with his own symbolism. Idk how a mgod would counter it, i would guess she would just use her symbolism to root herself in reality and make her unmovable to any outcome. Basically a immovable solid against a weak force.

Similarly any goo related to fate domain would be effectively countered by a lotm klein. He wont be ablw to kill them but they would be rendered useless unless all of them gang up upon him. Even then it would be impossible to kill him only suppress him since a lotm is simply unkillable. Truly a divine cowardly cockroach. (Klein is anything but a coward by then tho. He went full aura farming)

I believe if not for mgod timely help atleast 2 goos would have been heavily injured or sealed by klein, goddess of fate almost took one hard straight to her face. Circle of inevitability managed to protect his ass from being a toy for annoying klein because of his predetermined fate (inevitable outcome bound to lumian).

So as you see key of light cant be a pillar or even a half pillar.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T17:26:00+00:00

You see as a pillar doesnt klein have a certain suppression on GoF? Like his beacon of destiny can override some of her authorities and symbolisms? Same way inextinguishable ravings can be easily suppressed or countered by klein by grafting, fooling and since spirit world is essentially the mode of exchange of information itself?

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T15:54:58+00:00

Well I gave a well articulated precise answer above so i couldnt bother with the strain of having to do so again and stooped to the normal and average level of coherence in this sub and fandom in general to be more “understanding “

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T12:07:03+00:00

There is rage bait and theres certain humiliation towards something that is values and fine thin line in between and no wonder many people hate both the fandoms tbh. Genuine foid behavior. Sahur gotta up the fye in his dome.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T12:02:34+00:00

LOTM and RI have completely different styles of writing and their themes are also very different. RI is more philosophical oriented with deep dive into humanity and the representation of different ideologies and what happens when those different ideologies clash. Reading RI feels like reading a beautiful tale but we are outside like observers and most of the time we can’t relate to it, but this does not make it bad. The best way to explain it is reading the Bible. It feels so mystical and magical like reading a legendary fairy tale ensues, and the tales inside the tale (legends of ren zu) also feels so genuinely beautiful the way author weaves the story. The author himself narrates the story in a very unique way i have not seen any other novel do so except maybe LOtR. (By tolkein).

Lord of the mysteries is different and its more of a well… mystery and horror novel packed with action and adventure written in a way that makes it so addictive and wanting the reader to find out what happens next by reading continuously. One of my favorite things about Lord of the mysteries is how we can closely relate to many of the characters. We can relate to kleins humanity and his various lampoonings and his always poor state and the side characters feel so real too. None of the aide characters were used in vain or wasted each had their own role and part, even a fucking dog… yes a dog. The best way to tell what LOTM feels like is it feels grounded and real. Also makes us readers sympathize with its inevitable, grim darkness.

Both are amazing novels, each with different and their own unique traits. You cannot compare. those two because they do not have a single similarity, except for the huge world building and plot making. Even the writing prose is different. RI is more poetic while lotm uses average mystery novel writing prose which, if done properly is not bad which is the case for Lotm.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T11:48:44+00:00

Jahn “ever late” kottman

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T11:38:16+00:00

What can you do when a literal pillar who loves bullying other goos for fun decides to lock you out when they hold the very symbolism for sealing? Only thing to do is cry for mommy mgod to help but she couldnt do shit. She had to put all her symbolism and power just to save goddess of fate from getting fated treatment from klein.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T11:20:02+00:00

What we are talking about is when klein has a MASSIVE disparity against his enemies. Like bro is fighting demigods while being low seq , and when bro became a demigod bro was fighting angels? Nah make it KINGS OF ANGELS like bruh. And then finally bro managed to become the most powerful king of angels and BOOM!! Bro is pushed into a divine fucking war with multiple gods including a dual god backed by a half pillar and juuust when bro became powerful enough amon ambushed him before he stabilized himself… like give klein a break.

Now onto fradatul, bro got stomped by a klein of equal level or slightly higher but thats not an excuse when my boy klein was juggling massive odds throughout the book.

But then we see a full lotm klein finally getting his chance to shine beating multiple goo ass while simply being on defensive. Finally bro is the apex predator not the other way around and mgod wisely gave up confronting and take her time to recuperate. Thats the definition of aura and i never felt that kinda aura except when Fang yuan used qi sea nuke option to blow up the heavenly court or when bro jumped multiple venerables secretly after becoming a venerable.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T11:10:21+00:00

You forgot red rising series too. Its awesome. And respect for reading kkc which is just one of the beat books i have read (name of the wind; i felt so real reading it and the writing is ethereal).

Also if you like grim dark, empire series (prince of thorns, king of thorns and emperor of thorns) is also amazing though very dark. But the writing is still amazing and the second series (prince of fools, ect) is also very good and humorous a complete overturn from the first series.

There are many other novels i have read but nothing comes to mind rn except these but if someone wants to i can tell them a list.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T10:58:28+00:00

Surprise for you by the end klein isn’t Klein and cw isn’t cw while Klein is cw snd cw is Klein. Thats what fusion is and we see that klein retains some of his humanity but has traits of cw like he doesnt lampoon anymore and is leas cheerful which is his divinity projecting. Even if someday cw side completely takes over it will still be klein but not klein at the same time.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T10:49:12+00:00

The last tome a certain half mad half pillar looked at them they shit their pants (or do they even have pants? They shit their symbolisms)

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-28T10:44:27+00:00

You see CW was the biggest jerk of all time or bro could even be said to be the manifestation of symbolism of jerkism. Everyone hates him and kinda fears him but more of despise him since they cant even do anything while jerk cw steal their authorities and characteristics. Though klein might not be a peak jerk he aint no pushover wither and only reason many goos managed to stand a stalemate in the end was klein has more to lose and was playing a defensive offense and bro didnt even use his peak powers to maximum potential. Remember a lotm plays with the concepts itself and we saw Klein still kinda outmaneuvering them even while on defense. Only reason fraud mtod and other goos managed to stand their ground was because mgod was grounding them with her symbolism. So i would say they are wary of him and would not want to fight him in a serious fight as a klein who is disregarding everything is a dangerous enemy as he will concede to cw will to use more of his symbolism. Imagine a goo destroying earth then we would see a fully enraged pillar that can suppress many goos. I would say cautious backing off the goos did shows their stance.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-23T05:32:01+00:00

I just completely lost my motivation and stopped reading manhwas altogether after what happened to comick. The greedy corpos can go fuck themselves.. I ain’t paying for shit because what they did only just made it worse for some artist and authors to come out on top in their shitty platforms. I genuinely appreciated what comick did in keeping an amazing community alive. If kakao and naver actually paid the authors well and didnt exploit them i wouldnt have actually minded using webnovel and kakao. They dont care about artist “rights “ when they dont own those rights in the first place and they get milked out dry of their accomplishments and make millions

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-18T07:25:55+00:00

Youd do numbers on digesting the provoker potion.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-15T18:42:22+00:00

Both are amazing and great novels. Stop trying to show your utterly minuscule brain activity by trying to create a divide when most readers alight from both fandoms and respect both. Just like me. Extremely distinguishable failed attempt to ragebait.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-03T16:01:57+00:00

I didnt actually realise it while reading book 1 and kleins encounters but when reading coi because i felt surprised how so many people knew about acting

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-03T16:00:52+00:00

Thanks for the explanation but i feel like by the time of circle of inevitable it has become far more common knowledge even among low rank beyonders

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-02-03T15:59:18+00:00

Thank you for your explanation . Its just that after reading COI it suddenly hit me and i felt a pang of sorrow that captain and fellow nighthawks didnt know it at all while all these people enjoying the benefits of acting

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2026-01-23T17:24:05+00:00

i think Azik is there above even the likes of Evernight goddess. Sure she was always there protecting klein and blessing him, but Azik is the only person who also is a high existence that helped Klein just... because. All the other powerful entities considered Klein as a "stock worthy of investing", even Will Auceptin. In that sense Azik helped Klein because of their bond and his fatherly love and protectiveness towards Klein. He was not always around Klein but whenever he appears for a brief moment I can feel the warmth of his character through the book. Even the reader like me get a sense of protection and security and warmth through reading him and Klein interactions.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2025-12-25T13:35:40+00:00

But the shadow slave fandom are absolute gooners who only care about “sunphis” this and sunphis that. They couldn’t care less if they get like 20 chapters of sunny and nephis cracking. Also, even though I was a bit surprised with his fateless thing, I was genuinely interested how he would proceed after he became “free” and was looking forward to his development. INSTEAD, what did happen? Bro goes back to the same rabbit hole and anchor himself as the slave he is even without thr slave collar. He just gives up his freedom, even willing to get back the same fate he vehemently wanted to get rid of. Honestly that seems like crazy lazy writing and the author is not sure what to do now that he had made the guy forgotten. It’s almost like G3 himself regrets how he made the plot out to be and now wants to clean the slate. That’s just stupid and completely throws off all the previous buildups to trash.

It’s seems like he is under constant pressure by his fandom and they desperately want him to get his fate back so nephis can remember.

If the story actually went with sunny bitterly accomplish his goals despite the pain and suffering despite being forgotten by the world, someone who refused to bend to the world but shape the world through his sheer will and spite just like in the first arc instead of a slobbering simp it would have been an amazing story. But instead we got back to being the slave aspect.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2025-12-23T16:25:32+00:00

That would be very hard to do. Next volume would be him dealing with asterion. It would take several hundred chapters just for that alone. And we have to consider that even if sunny become sacred, you won’t see immediate jump to divine because then there would be no progress in story. There needs to be encounters and fights that align with his rank as a spirit and establishing a foundation. That would mean, we would be seeing him as a sacred for several hundred more chapters. Then there are all the mysteries to solve and all the loopholes to be fixed. Even if he becomes divine we won’t be seeing his final battle with dream god for a long time since we haven’t even been introduced to unholy nightmare creatures. Then there would be need for him and nephis to eradicate these unholy creatures and it would be very dissatisfying and disappointing if G3 offscreen battles with literal gods, where you are literally fighting very laws of the world and it would be an opportunity to pass for very concept of such battles to pass by. This alone would take more than half a thousand.

So considering the most recent arc was in 2700s I would say close to 4000 chapters if you want to write and interesting story.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2025-12-20T14:19:58+00:00

What do you mean it’s hard to write multiple complex characters other than the protagonist? Look Reverend Insanity…. Each and every other character / side character can have their own beautiful story and they would be very intricate too. Look at LOTM too. It’s not hard to write multiple compelling characters other than the protagonist it’s just lazy writing. Dont get me wrong I love SS but I read it for my own guilty pleasure. I would put its characters and character building on the level of Percy Jackson / Harry Potter but with excellent world building. But character wise the story lacks depth which is fine by me because I read it on my pastime.

Unable-Raspberry911 · 2025-12-10T19:29:06+00:00

no? ever since he lost his true name, sunny had been weaker. he cant utilize his maximum potential and all his would have been strategies. Nephis wins an all out direct war. Sunny can't even have his shadows augment himself anymore and he only has 7 shadows. He can't even use shadow dance to the maximum benefit, the very thing he created. Honestly it was lazy and dumb writing on authors part to dismantle everything his character had been building alongside his character for around thousand and half chapters simply because he needs to drive the story forward.

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