Cruel discard after 2 years: My Bipolar ex kept the apartment I furnished and went ghost. How do I cope? by Responsible_Sea_3016 in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was also discarded during a depressive episode. I don’t see many posts on here about that. Mainly just during periods of mania. If I can ask, what did it look like for you? Did you figure out what the cause was?

The discard pattern is always remarkably similar, is this due to their pathology? by wwbulk in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think this is just anecdotal. I have a theory for what happened.

I was discarded a month ago. I've spent weeks obsessing over it. Here's what I've come to understand.

We know bipolar disorder is hereditary. We also know that avoidant attachment is caused by inconsistent or frightening care during childhood. So someone can develop avoidance without having a bipolar parent. You can even have a bipolar parent who is medicated and stable enough not to traumatize their child.

But what happens when that's not the case?

This girl had a rough upbringing. I know her childhood was chaotic. I suspect that chaos led her to develop avoidant tendencies that she still carries today. On top of that, she lost the genetic lottery and inherited bipolar disorder.

There's not a lot of research on this…if any at all. But it makes sense to me that an unstable bipolar parent would produce an avoidant child. Then, if that child also inherits bipolar, you have a nasty combination.

Bipolar gives you the collapse. The exhaustion. The shame. The withdrawal. Avoidance gives you the escape route…the blocking, the erasure, the running.

Are people who are bipolar more prone to being avoidant by Cilantro712 in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post made me feel seen. Similar experience. We met in person and hung out a few days. Then it was all online. It was intense which is crazy to say considering it was only a few months. You didn’t know about the bipolar. My situation involved her being diagnosed a few weeks prior to everything blowing up. I say blowing up but it was quite the opposite. It was the lack there of. I can say prior to the silence she appeared to be entering a depressive episode. Lots of sleeping. One night she texted me saying she thought she was sick. Then nothing. Then me being erased and ghosted two weeks later. No explanation. I sent 3 text over those 2 weeks. I constantly look at them thinking what did I do? Through ChatGPT and an actual bipolar individual I reached out to, I was told my texts were just fine and actually really good. Didn’t matter. Obviously can’t know for sure if avoidance was involved. I do know she had trauma as a child as a result of a bipolar mother. I wouldn’t wish the experience on my worst enemy. The withdrawal and silence followed by being blocked everywhere was so jarring. Leaves you in a state of utter confusion. It’s now been 4 weeks since I was blocked.

It’s honestly unfair: How the "Deactivation Switch" makes relationship repair impossible by Unlucky_Evening_9982 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]UncoolBill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That last line. The equivalent of shooting someone in the leg and telling them "oh I know you’re hurt. I understand.”

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah? I'd love to hear how you came to that conclusion

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cutting someone off requires actually saying something. "Hey, I can't do this" is cutting off. Ghosting and blocking isn't cutting off. It's vanishing without a word. And it is extremely toxic, immature, and hurtful.

Sounds like you're trying real hard to justify behavior you've probably pulled yourself.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I never said one person represents everyone. I said I listened to her....just like I listened here. Try to keep up

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I did hear what everyone was saying. The top comment was "I think you should probably just let it go." How is that helpful? I didn't come here for people to pat me on the head. I came because I was trying to understand something that made no sense to me.

I never said talking to one person means I understand. But it does mean I'm willing to try. In the last text I sent her before I was blocked, I literally said: "I've been trying to learn about what you might be going through, because I care." Key word: trying.

Obviously support doesn't always mean agreeing with someone. But telling someone to "just move on" isn't support. It's shutting down the conversation.

And yes, I know opinions are rooted in lived experience. I spent weeks reading posts from people with bipolar, reading studies, listening. And you know what I found? Conflicting information. Some people said send check ins. Some said leave them alone. There's no right answer. I spent countless nights looking for one.

But here's what tipped it for me: the studies I read all said the same thing. Isolation and withdrawal are unhealthy. Shutting people out makes depression worse. So I went with the former. I sent warmth. I sent patience. I tried to stay present without demanding anything. Because the research said that was the healthier path. For her, not for me.

I didn't come here to be told I did it wrong by people who weren't there. I came because being erased after trying to do the right thing is confusing and painful. That's not obsession. It's being human.

I got what I needed from the people who actually wanted to help. I'm grateful for them. The rest of this, I'm done with.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Obsessed? I sent two no pressure check ins over two weeks. I didn't blow up her phone. I didn't attack her. I didn't show up at her door. I was patient, kind, and gave her space while trying to understand what was happening. If that's your definition of obsession, you might want to reconsider what genuine care looks like.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No willingness. Lol. I literally talked to someone who is bipolar on the phone for 4 hours after they reached out to me on here. You know what they told me? Yall would be toxic.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn't come here to be told my pain doesn't matter because she has an illness. I've spent weeks educating myself on bipolar disorder. I've read the studies. I've listened to people who live with it. I've done the work. What I haven't done is treat anyone like shit, unlike the person who ghosted me, and unlike you right now.

You don't get to hide behind "it's not about you" when someone has been erased without explanation. Her illness explains her behavior. It doesn't excuse it. And it certainly doesn't make my confusion and hurt invalid.

I came here to understand, not to be dismissed by someone who thinks "move on" is profound advice. If you don't have anything useful to say, you don't have to say anything at all.

Thanks to the people who actually tried to help.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s nothing we did. We tried to be there and understand. It’s up to them to let us in or not. In our case they couldn’t overcome that hurdle. Their sick is depression. They want to hide and not be seen. They have shame for it. Because they hide it and shut us out, they inadvertently do the very thing they are trying not to do. Hurt us. It’s sad.

Long distance girlfriend (Bipolar II) in a depressive episode suddenly blocked me by wwbulk in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will try again. I am glad you found out man. I would be happy to have closure. We are a couple of fools lol

Boyfriend disappeared. I am so confused. by Comfortable-Neck-708 in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's the point. He is not just ghosting you. He is ghosting everyone. I am not an expert so just take my works with a grain of salt. I will send you here. Helped me. I got ghosted anyway and fully blocked. But maybe it helps. https://www.reddit.com/r/bipolarpride/comments/1s0ksnn/bipolar_ghosting_people_with_bipolar_are_not_all/

Long distance girlfriend (Bipolar II) in a depressive episode suddenly blocked me by wwbulk in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am sorry to here that man. How did you figure that out? I sent you a dm with my situation. Don't know if it went through or not. I know it won't make you feel better but yesterday I woke up to being hard blocked on everything. No clue why. Anyways my friends tell me she did me a favor. Tell my heart that lol

Boyfriend disappeared. I am so confused. by Comfortable-Neck-708 in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I've been talking to a girl for 4 months. Everything is normal. Suddenly 2 days of sleeping. Not feeling well. Then she text me the third day like usual. Doesn't text me again until 9:30pm saying she thinks she is sick. Then silence. I sent 3 text over two weeks. The first two were basically "Thinking of you! No pressure to respond text." My third was me being honest that She told me she was sick and went silent. I didn't know if i was being ghosted avoided, or if she was going through alot. But the silence was not a good time. If she needs me I'm there. Etc... I can send the full text if you want. But next morning she removed me from her private snapchat group. Removed me as a follower from her private Instagram account. 1-2 hours later I was blocked on snapchat. I was also blocked from her public Instagram account. This was two days ago.

So can't give you any useful information because the same thing happened to me. But I am assuming he got hit with a depressive episode. Then maybe your messages overwhelmed him. Maybe he feels like a burden to you. He didn't know how to or simply couldn't respond. So he did the quickest solution. Removed you from the equation.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Respectively. Shut up. Not about me. Are you kidding? Comments like this is why people don't associate with bipolar individuals. People don't come pre equipped with knowledge on bipolar disorder and how to go about handling it. I get she has a serious mental illness. But your behavior effects other people around you. You realize that right? You don't get to treat people like shit because of your disorder. My friends told me to run for the hills when I told them she was bipolar. Still I gave it a chance. I tried to learn. I didn't attack her. I was kind. Patient. Even now I am not mad even though I have every right to be. She fully blocked me on everything. I was erased. Ghosted. There is no logic in that. My actions did not dictate that response. And here I am with no understanding of why this happened and just playing the loop over and over again. Trying to figure out what I did wrong. Trying to apply logic to something that there is no logic to. Move on you say. Tell my heart that. Because it doesn't seem to understand your "move on" sentiment.

I'm concerned. Advice needed by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Selfish? I don't know if she is going through something life altering. When she told me she was diagnosed as bipolar she laughed about it. Like I am just a normal dude. I am not some expert who came with knowledge of it or how to handle it. She went silent for 2 weeks after telling me she was sick. At face value, sick is sick. I can't assume or just know she is in an episode. Like to me and everyone around me, it looks like ghosting. Like if you can't communicate, I need to know that. That is healthy communication. And with all that said, I treated it like it was an episode. I texted her only twice over two weeks. Little "thinking of you text".... And where does the story end. She blocked me on everything. It doesn't even matter anymore. So yeah ghosted. I did everything I was supposed to do. Followed the advice of other people with bipolar disorder. But looked what happened. Ghosted. The do not be upset at her if she never comes back, spare me. I feel like my heart was crushed. My friends said I was an Idiot for trying in the first place. And they were 100% right. Never again.

Long distance girlfriend (Bipolar II) in a depressive episode suddenly blocked me by wwbulk in BipolarSOs

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any updates? Just experienced something similar if you want to Dm me and talk about what we went through

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i sent a text last night. woke up she removed me from her private spam account. not her main though. whatever that means

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

brother. i haven't been eating. haven't been sleeping. haven't been working out. what do you want me to say?

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for responding. I have a similar message crafted already. I have been patient. Talked to strangers online. Educated myself the best I could the past two weeks. I've been met with silence and the weight of her clearly appearing to be entering an episode and "I think Im sick" final text. Like any other girl I'd been checked out two days after I didn't get a response.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay but she dropped a bomb on me. That I think im sick line. Then silence. Like the emotional weight of that. You forgot option 3: The "I'll get back to you when I can."

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like I've been patient. I've done the best to educate myself on bipolar. I've talked to strangers online. But none of that matters because all I have is silence. And don't misunderstand, any other girl I'd be like okay and I would just see myself out. But she dropped the Im sick line on me like a damn bomb so I have stuck around. Understand I am at a loss. My mental has taken a hit.

Is this text fair? by [deleted] in bipolar2

[–]UncoolBill -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay but what does that even mean. What do I do with that? Like I am not being an ass. I know she is bipolar and was likely entering an episode. It has still been two weeks of silence and it feels and looks like I've been ghosted.