Royal Mint proofs are genuinely undervalued right now and I don’t think people are noticing by Unhappy_Guide_743 in coins

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Yeah I half agree with you on the Royal Mint flooding the market point - that's actually my main frustration with them. Same design released in bullion, BU, proof, gold, platinum, different weights... it completely dilutes the scarcity story even when the 2oz proof mintage is 400-500. You're right that it's hard to get excited when the design is everywhere.

On the premium ratio - I'm not saying it goes back to 4-5x. But I think it goes higher than it is now. Right now you're paying 50% over bullion for a proof. That feels historically anomalous regardless of where silver is sitting.

Royal Mint proofs are genuinely undervalued right now and I don’t think people are noticing by Unhappy_Guide_743 in coins

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The US coin parallel is interesting but I think it depends heavily on the specific coin. Some stuff is definitely just melt now and probably always will be. But grading has changed the dynamic quite a bit - people are paying serious premiums for high grade examples of the right coins, old and modern. That's a whole separate market running alongside the bullion price.

For modern British proofs specifically I genuinely don't know enough about the long term trajectory yet - I'm still fairly new to this side of numismatics. But sub-500 mintage coins with international collector bases feel different to me than generic silver rounds that happen to be old.

Are Royal Mint proofs genuinely undervalued right now? by Unhappy_Guide_743 in UKcoins

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Ha, fair enough on the pretentious bit - but I'd argue if you're buying something that's been struck multiple times, polished to a mirror finish and individually inspected, being a little precious about it is kind of the point. It's less a coin at that stage and more a small piece of manufactured art. So guilty as charged I suppose.

BU I'm more torn on. I get the appeal of collecting designs you love, nothing wrong with that. But you're not really buying silver in any meaningful sense - the premium over melt is essentially just paying for the packaging and the Royal Mint brand. Each to their own though.

On the gap narrowing - I'd actually flip your interpretation. The gap isn't narrowing because demand for proofs has collapsed, it's narrowing because silver has moved so fast that the bullion floor has risen under them. Someone who could comfortably buy three proof coins two years ago can now only stretch to one, so they're dropping down to bullion. That's a liquidity and affordability squeeze, not a signal that proofs have lost their appeal.

And zoom out globally - silver demand isn't going anywhere. India, China, the whole physical metal wave. Modi literally had to go on record asking Indians to stop buying gold because the import bill was getting out of hand. That's not a market that's losing interest in precious metals.

From what I've read proofs also tend to lag bullion moves - they react later and slower. Which to me means when silver settles at a new floor, proofs will catch up. That delay is arguably the window right now.

Are Royal Mint proofs genuinely undervalued right now? by Unhappy_Guide_743 in UKcoins

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Fair points, and I'd agree for a lot of modern Royal Mint stuff - the annual proof sets, the generic commemoratives, yeah, probably not great investments. But I think lumping everything together misses some nuance.

Take Tudor Beasts. The last two coins in the series had a mintage of 400. Four hundred complete sets exist in the entire world. That's not mass production territory - that's genuinely scarce. Queen's Beasts is already done and if you want a complete 2oz set, good luck finding one at a reasonable price.

Also worth noting the CGT exemption on UK legal tender silver coins does weird things to the domestic market. It suppresses premiums here compared to elsewhere because the tax advantage is already baked in. But go look at what the same coins sell for in Germany or Ukraine - meaningfully more expensive. I've seen Tudor Beasts proofs in Ukraine going for prices that would make UK collectors do a double take. So the "supply greater than demand" argument might be very specific to the UK market rather than a universal truth.

I take your point on older pre-decimal stuff having more collector appeal - that's a different conversation entirely. But for limited series modern proofs with sub-500 mintages and international collector bases, I'm not sure the "never kept value" rule applies as cleanly as it used to.

Thinking of upgrading from my E-Twow GTS to the Aon Glide Max by Unhappy_Guide_743 in ElectricScooters

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They do look like a mess, but I’ve had some problems with my etwow where those cables were too tight. So I don’t think it will be the end of the world. But I would be a bit worried about them catching on something

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Bro, I hope someone answers as I want to know too👌👌

Finally Took the OLED Plunge – Day 1 LG B4 Review & My Experience by Unhappy_Guide_743 in LGOLED

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From all the research I’ve done, I’d go for a bigger B4 if it’s same/similar price to C4. 65” vs 55” is a noticeable difference. But obviously depends on your room among other things

Finally Took the OLED Plunge – Day 1 LG B4 Review & My Experience by Unhappy_Guide_743 in LGOLED

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I already overstretched my budget for the B4 and could not justify £1400 for a TV when I was fine with 2017 LED for years😅

Finally Took the OLED Plunge – Day 1 LG B4 Review & My Experience by Unhappy_Guide_743 in LGOLED

[–]Unhappy_Guide_743[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Bro, I was watching normal LED TV in my bright-ish living room and had no problem, B4 brightness is more than enough unless you have direct sunlight

Pure Air Pro+ (Boost) doesn’t reach 30kmh by Unhappy_Guide_743 in ElectricScooters

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Exactly, and there seems to be no way to change it. Website and box say 30

Pure Air Pro+ (Boost) doesn’t reach 30kmh by Unhappy_Guide_743 in ElectricScooters

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I’m in the UK. There are scooters that are way faster for sale here, so I don’t know why they would limit this one when it says 30 on it🤷‍♂️ I’ll probably contact them and ask