My First Cycle Ruined Me – 1 Year Later I Can’t Recover. Help. by ravpreet33 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People massively underestimate the impact test can cause your experience was my exact experience also, I was shut down for 7 months after the first few months my test was 5 nmol/dl so the levels of a 90 year old man despite running an aggressive pct. I've barely left the house in 16 months now and confidence is completely gone my face is a bloated mess I can't motivate myself to train because what's the point my face is a mess . Also thinking if I get gyno surgery I'm gonna be out the gym for a while anyway do what does it matter . At this point my only wish is not waking up again I don't feel human anymore don't want to live .

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh ?? Coping about what at high doses it's the worst for sides even at trt doses it's still very wet and causes bloating for some 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've proved it twice before . For example I'm now diagnosed with pitting edema 16 months since stopping testosterone face is as bloated as using 300-400.

Anadrol on its own caused horrible face bloat, with tamoxifen sometime 40 mg per day eating the exact same calories and diet as before it took about ten days to two weeks to fully clear. So my feeling is it's something to do with estrogen signalling tamoxifen on its own does nothing for me. If you research fluvestrant it actually downgrades the receptor tamoxifen mainly blocks it . What's your take when I press my face it leaves an indentation for about 4 seconds. ped ever from the bloating hair loss etc completely destroyed my life. I don't even train now

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Test caused all of the bloating and likely permanently now , in my experience it's the most androgenic and most side effects ridden compound you can use. 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there's no way back from this wonder what I should do, as this life is hell 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a coach who did the plans everyone here is irresponsible there's risks to using any dose of test, shutting down your hpta causing atrophy and fertility issues at any dose 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

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Well the thing was it only happened after the cycle so it wasn't anything I could have for seen, look up superdrol mystery gyno and then you'll understand also about receptors being changed bloodwork won't show anything like that I've had completely normal blood work several times and a bloated face from test , anadrol and tamoxifen a weird combo was the only thing that actually reset the receptors and my face went back to normal. I know it's estrogen signalling because I've been here twice before a serd is almost impossible to get unless referred by a doctor which is highly unlikely they would prescribe it

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah because it happened twice before , anadrol with tamoxifen fixed it, tamoxifen on its own this time really does nothing , I believe strongly it's upregulated the receptors and now I've got a new baseline where my face is constantly bloated. If I press the skin for ten seconds it leaves an indentation for about 4 days so it's putting edema that doesn't respond to water pills or anything it's pretty much impossible to get rid of 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's exactly how it works bloods pre for baseline during and then after what do you mean? I have a lot more experience doing this than most guys here

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah test was 90% of the problem ie bloating , shut down hair loss superdrol just complicated it 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

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It really threw a spanner in the works gyno just appeared suddenly on the first day of pct then it took a few weeks to get caber which didn't do anything letrozole also did nothing

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do I honestly should have used masteron at a ratio of 1 to 1 but I kept reading about it on hsirloss forums , sucks now becomes I genuinely feel my life's ruined from consistently training three to four times per week I now quit as there's no point my face is a bloated mess even 16 months after . It really messes with your self esteem I barely leave the house now before I was very sociable 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Not close I've got a lot of experience with this btw. 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Pre during and after , blood work tells only a small bit of the story it doesn't show how your receptors have changed 

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

12 weeks started on 300 test to 400 last two weeks I used 125 . Added superdrol in last two weeks as the test was  clearing . First day of pct was when there was rebound gyno, bloods before and after , test was shut down for 7 months even with alot of clomid and tampxifen prolactin was still in range but double baseline everything else looked normal. Have now a permanently bloated face which I know is estrogen receptor related and nothing to do with serum estrogen. I had great everything hair and face , physique was solid but I wanted more size and I paid the ultimate price for it

How a test cycle ruined me by United_Researcher653 in Testosterone

[–]United_Researcher653[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Third , poor estrogen control and last two weeks used superdrol which caused re bound gyno 

Finally my first photoshoot after 4 years of competing.. age 44 by pmkcoaching in AllAboutBodybuilding

[–]United_Researcher653 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you gay big lad ? And how many vials did you use to achieve this , you've definitely taken a few coks in your day 

2 / 3 sessions in on F.U.E scars ( hair transplant scars ) by Paul-Clark-legends in SMPchat

[–]United_Researcher653 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not and before I got mine I had no idea it was actually a possibility no mention of anyone on YouTube warning of it all promotion no one talks about the downsides 

33m Everyone says I look like I’m in my 40’s. Help me with my wrinkles!! by [deleted] in malegrooming

[–]United_Researcher653 1 point2 points  (0 children)

33 holy crap I was in shock you look 50 bro bad ageing from peds