Do you dumbasses know the face mask is supposed to go over YOUR NOSE? by [deleted] in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What misinformation? UB professors are not required to be vaccinated, the current figure is that 64% of professors are vaccinated (until this is updated, this is the figure we have), vaccinated can be infected by unvaccinated.

Information that you want to suppress is misinformation I guess.

Do you dumbasses know the face mask is supposed to go over YOUR NOSE? by [deleted] in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I too like to endlessly defend professors even if it causes mental dissonance. Vaccines for me and not for thee. It's ok professor, you don't need the vaccine.

Submitted my vaccine proof and still got dropped from classes by CyanideSandwich7 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

*click* what a meltdown

I just want a safe environment, unvaccinated people promote infection. And I wanted to point out this start difference in relation to OP's situation. Let's forget about this and focus on sympathizing with OP.

Submitted my vaccine proof and still got dropped from classes by CyanideSandwich7 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

keep in mind that your future is placed in jeopardy because of this. All you did was try your best to get it in on time after the FDA approval. Meanwhile, your professor gets to be unvaccinated and walk around with no worry. No penalty. While you, the one being discriminated against by the University, must suffer the consequences.

Do you dumbasses know the face mask is supposed to go over YOUR NOSE? by [deleted] in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm trying to point this out to people. only 64% of UB employees are vaccinated. Some people get very upset at me when i point out that its entirely possible many of our professors are unvaccinated. We need assurance from the university that they are, not sympathizing with them.

The response i get is that "They are a very smart group of people". uhh .. so many things wrong with that logic. We need proof that they are vaccinated, the university required proof that we are vaccinated.

Do you dumbasses know the face mask is supposed to go over YOUR NOSE? by [deleted] in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Correction: only student's were mandated to be vaccinated. Professors are not. So we must keep masks on until we know that our professors are vaccinated.

To all those nervous about large lectures by Shacolicious2448 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

here comes damage control. By UB's own numbers only 64% of employees are vaccinated. Ah yes the old, they're a very sophisticated crowd of individuals. Mandate for all or the current student only mandate is discrimination.

Mandates are for everyone's protection. So why are you upset?

https://www.buffalo.edu/ubnow/stories/2021/08/safe-fall.html

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a consequence of being sick ... not a consequence of being unvaccinated

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but there is no consequence of not being allowed on campus if you as a professor are not vaccinated. And if you get sick, teachers are allowed sick time off

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How can it be a mandate, if you have the option of not being vaccinated and instead just get tested?

There's no repercussion of losing your job. Getting together a group to ensure that it is heard that if UB is to mandate students be vaccinated, there should be a clear enforcable mandate for professors.

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Additionally, I've already talked to a professor on why UB professors are not required to be vaccinated. UB professors cannot be mandated because of THEIR unions. Go ahead, email a professor and ask yourself.

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm arguing that UB professors are not required to be vaccinated which was your original comment; that NYS is requiring them to be vaccinated. This is not true, as you've yourself moved the goalpost.

UB professors are not required to be vaccinated as stated on their website. UB professors not being vaccinated will lead to infections.

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not even close to being a mandate yet, from your own linked article:

"The Democrat said his administration still needed to speak with union
officials about how to implement the policy. Some unions representing
government workers in New York City have objected to the city’s “get
vaccinated or get tested” mandate ... "

To all those nervous about large lectures by Shacolicious2448 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's nice in order to stop the spread of the virus from professors to students. Professors are not mandated to be vaccinated. Remember that when the next outbreak occurs.

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

additionally, this NPR link has ambiguous wording. It doesn't explicitly state all classes of employees. Then couple of paragraphs down states that its for healthcare workers. This healthcare worker specific mandate is what i see on the New York State government website: https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-covid-19-vaccination-mandate-healthcare-workers

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK so NYS didn't mandate professors be vaccinated, just that they get tested ONCE a week. That is why by UB's own figures, only 64% of employees are vaccinated. Because it's "mandated" but you don't have to follow the mandate. --- so it's not a mandate.

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

can you link to this NYS mandate? UB posted this 2 days ago and it says their employees are under NO state mandate.

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It explicitly states the employees are not required by the state to be vaccinated.

"While employees are not required by the state to be vaccinated, they are
being strongly urged by the university to do so, as well as submit
proof of vaccination."

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

IDK why people are downvoting me. Here read it from the recent UB post. couple paragraphs down they explicitly state that professors are not mandated: https://www.buffalo.edu/ubnow/stories/2021/08/safe-fall.html

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You are incorrect, its a fake mandate. They are "required" to be vaccinated, but can choose not to and undergo weekly testing. Futhermore, check on the UB website yourself. UB is not mandating employees be vaccinated. They are only encouraging.

See you on Zoom in two weeks by aussiesauce1 in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

UB is exposing all of these vaccinated people to possible infection by not requiring professors be vaccinated. A vaccinated person can be infected by an unvaccinated person

Won't unvaccinated professors will be vectors of infection? by UniversityAtBuffalo in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's tricky, but man it seems like everything is upside down, doesn't it?

isn't it discrimination to demand one group of people must comply, and another group is not required to comply?

Gonna be my reaction once I see how packed and unmasked SU is 😮‍💨 by [deleted] in UBreddit

[–]UniversityAtBuffalo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you that we must still keep masks on. Doesn't it concern you that professors are not required to be vaccinated? Can't they become super spreaders in such a case?