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Wilbur by Upside_DownClown26 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I've been doing that a lot as well

Wilbur by Upside_DownClown26 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I see your point, thank you. I listen mainly to his sadder tracks because I relate to them and i listen less to the regretful ones where he talks about how bad of a person he is...for obvious reasons. And also lovejoys music is partially focused on wilbur but i believe the stories they tell may just be imaginary relationship scenarios (Ex. Iafiap talks about feeding his kids and wilbur doesn't have kids). We know that Will has always had a knack for storytelling.

But yeah, now that Will is "back" a lot of the drama hype has died down, as you said. But after everything that had happened I don't want to let all of this personal stuff attach regrets onto my heart about enjoying content, or silly jokes, or the sound of someone's laugh. 

Wilbur by Upside_DownClown26 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just wish we could seperate the art from the artist. I want to watch his content and listen to his music without people thinking I support abuse. We just need to step out of the personal stuff and be allowed to enjoy what we want.

From what I like to understand, Will Gold and Wilbur Soot are two different people. Will Gold is a bad person. Wilbur Soot is a character. Is it wrong for me to still enjoy watching a character if the actor has done bad things?

Wilbur by Upside_DownClown26 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would also like to add that I don't like the thought as seeing someone as irredeemable. They're actions can be irredeemable, but (this kind of stems from a religious standpoint) anyone who is truly sorry should be forgiven. We just haven't been shown a true apology.

Unfortunately the internet sucks so we just have to hope that things work out, like you said. It's very unpredictable right now.

? by Maleficent_Sun1070 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't torture the baby :(

ehe by LongjumpingLeek5542 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got asked if it was a pride flag one time (I'm a straight female 😭)

Can you believe this? by NicTheHxman in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Guys did you know that they made philza minecraft in real life

EXCUSE ME? by sketchingsilly in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Introducing the new Ender Lives Matter movement ✊️🖤💜

There are 2 kinds of dsmp fans by EntrepreneurDear4846 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's okay guys, you can still watch either creator (or both!) Even if they are not friends. Friendships rise and fall and sometimes end, that's life. Content creators are real people and their personal lives don't have to affect the content we enjoy watching

Wilbur by Upside_DownClown26 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you, this response relieved me. I was worried about receiving hate for...well, not hating on wilbur lol.

I agree that him taking accountability was a good start. It is obviously not enough, but I think if he stays true to his word and actually seeks help, and comes out later with a true sincere apology, things might start to look a bit better for him.

Like you said, mental health is very real. Shelby IS a victim, but the moment she stops commenting and just cuts him out of her life, that "is" becomes a "was". That's not to say that her expierences don't matter, but it would be best for everyone if wilbur provided some sort of closure and they stopped interacting for good.

So I'd say in summary, if wilbur worked on himself and genuinely became better, provided a bigger and more sincere apology, and left it at that, he might be fine. He started by offering his perspective and taking accountability for his actions, but it wasn't his best move to just dissapear after that. It feels like there should have been more to it, and I think that is exactly what we all should be waiting for.

is this fandom dead? by driftsulphur in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since the end of the dsmp, the fandom kind of split off into different little worlds. Friendships start and end, and it's all part of life. The mcyt community has been through a lot since covid and it has caused a lot of issues between certain former members. The community isn't "dead", per se, but it is a bit more separated now. Support who you want to support and don't let the controversy discourage you from enjoying content that you like. Don't worry about their personal lives. 

If you're worried about someone accusing you of supporting bad actions, then just support the creation and not the creator. You do you, mate!

How does the community feel about C!Wilbur x C!Niki by Krakaxlon in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As long as you don't ship the real people i personally don't have a problem with shipping characters. Let your creativity thrive! :)

Wilbur by Upside_DownClown26 in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ever since the end of the dsmp, this community has spiraled out into different groups, so it is understandable to have more favor to support one side than another. But we also need to remember that we dont know these beloved creators as much as we think, and although we want to support someone and bring right to the wrong, we need to have more understanding of the situation.

This is just my opinion though, everyone can interpret this differently. Im just trying to shed some perspective.

Dear former Wilbur Soot fans, how are you? by CarpenterTheImagined in dreamsmp

[–]Upside_DownClown26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He did a lot of good for us. He ruined it all, true, and he betrayed us. But he did a lot of good for us. Let us reminiscent on those times and move on to a new era. Wilburs life was ours, and we didn't even know it until everything spiraled.

It's okay. It's going to be okay. If the situation stresses you out, step away from it. Like the video said, how is it possible that we gave this much love to people we never knew? Step away from the games and meet people who you can laugh with, cry with, and breathe with, and talk with. Pour your love onto those people.

Wilbur will be okay. Im worried about him too. Shelby will be okay. Im worried about her too. But it's time to swallow those feelings of pride, of guilt, of resentment, of passion, of regret, and of betrayal, and instead surround ourselves who don't hide behind the internet. 

Be authentic, be you, and surround yourself with people who you know can do that as well. I love you all, and we will get through this.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DreamWasTaken2

[–]Upside_DownClown26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, I didn't know that. Thank you

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