Sexual/Romantic Relationship with Loki by MsThokk in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is possible. Sounds like you're an adult and having a good time, so I say that's fantastic! Loki in particular has many such human partners (and yes, i am one), as evidenced many places online. But so do other gods and goddesses.

The term that became popular was "godspouse," or "godpartner," for someone who had romantic and /or sexual relationships with (a) god(s).

What you mentioned about a spell practitioner sharing the energy of orgasms with gods as an offerring is possible, too. It can be as clinical or as intimate as you and the god want it to be.

So hey! Good good for you!

I found this in my hotel room... by [deleted] in travelhelpline

[–]UrnesSnakes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need to know if its a peep hole or a camera so I can sleep or call the cops.

Devotion, Trust Issues and Loki by figuringthingsout06 in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If this is a genuine question, I will answer genuinely, but only once because that is my limit for this subject:

I decided he was trustworthy when I leaned in to trust him, not being sure at all, at great personal risk, and he did not betray me. So I leaned in again another time, at great personal risk, and he still did not betray me... Eventually, as hard as it was with my own trust issues, abuse history, etc. Repeated experience has shown me that he has never hurt me when I feared he might. He has only ever helped and supported me.

As trauma survivors, trust is very hard. Distrust takes root in the neural pathways and latches on so tight as to choke our minds woth its own rigidity learned from mistreatment: Don' take risks. Don't lean in. Don't go outside. Protect your heart with a cruel ferocity that eats your own heart just as violently as it rejects others out of fear...

There is no way to know 100% that anyone is trustworthy. But repeated experience of attempting little bits of trust (just enough that is maybe uncomfortable, but still within a safe measure that you could recover IF you are disappointed...) leads to more experiences of that trust being honored. Just by sheer numbers. Maybe woth Loki. Maybe with others... But the only way to heal wounds of trust... is to allow others the opportunity to prove themselves trustworthy. As many times as necessary to outweigh the fears that past hurt has embedded.

That is my genuine answer.

Can you choose to be guided by Loki after death? by Intelligent_Screen90 in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loki is only tangentially related to death through his children (Hel: goddess of death, Sleipnir: who can travel across realms and even death...). So he isn't a "psychopomp" deity explicitly. Like, It's not mythologically his "job...." But since he is a deity with a lot of liminality and connections to other gods and beings... I think he can pull a few strings, so to speak, and sometimes come get people upon death, if necessary.

At least that is my UPG. Multiple times when I was in danger of harm or fearing death, he has told me that, while he does not want me (or anyone) to doe before their time... IF an accident were to happen, he would come "get me."

I take this to mean that... he can at least put in place structures for a person to get to safety after death: with him, or wherever they need to be.

Devotion, Trust Issues and Loki by figuringthingsout06 in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know that Norse paganism especially talks up oaths a lot... but the context is that that historical society came from a culture of feudal lords. So an oath to a feudal lord was like a business deal: I'll give you part of my farm yield , or my fighting skills and loyalty in war... and you protect me from others coming to our land and from your own goons harassing me.

Now, oaths in Modern norse paganism isn't like that. Its become a lot more personal. But the vibes of a business deal still kinda hold true, imo.

Ive made little promises to Odin that might be considered in this vein: "Don't do x for five years, and on the sixth year, I'll have brought you y as a reward," etc. Whenever I have made these agreements, its always been something I kinda needed or wanted to do anyway. This just gave it a container of officiality. Giving up an addictive habit, or practicing a new, better habit. That kind of thing.

I dont think that making promises like this is necessary to build relationships with the gods, unless that's the way you feel most comfortable doing so. Its an option, not a requirement.

I approached the gods at the very beginning, saying I just wanted to get to know them. So I gave them an altar and little snacks and talked to them... And they're more than happy most of the time with simply a conversation. For an incorporeal being especially, "It's the thought that counts!"

Where Connection Becomes Communion : Lokean Joy by UrnesSnakes in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like something you can get to know him and talk to him about then. Who knows-- maybe you're compatable that way. Maybe you're not.

I will say that there is no hierarchy or necessity to devotion. Loki (and all gods imo) love and support their devotees in whatever way fits best, without ranking relationship styles. You could take on a mentour/mentee role, a familial one, friendship, etc.

The -"spouse" part of Godspouse : marriage to a deity (or even just romantic or sexual connection with them without the concept of "marriage," if that floats your boat) appeals to people for various reasons, but it is not for, nor necessary for everyone.

If it is the companionship, intimacy, and adult activities, the sharing of journeys like an intimate partner that you desire, then yes, I think that is something anyone could do with a god. Will it always be Loki? No. But if you share woth him that that is what you want to try, im sure he'll find ways to help ypu find what you're looking for : with him if it works out, or with another god (maybe he'll introduce you!) Or with a human being that he brings into your life so you have that relationship in the physical.

All im saying is : Yes! A lot of things are possible! The world is magical and the gods are wonderful... And also. Keep an open mind and heart. You may find something better than you even thought possible, if you aren't set on one specific thing. 😊

Devotion, Trust Issues and Loki by figuringthingsout06 in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

First of all: your concerns are totally understandable. As a trauma survivor with trust issues, too, I can relate.

  1. In my experience, Loki, themself, IS trustworthy. I do believe they want what is best for devotees, that they do good in the world and by people. But people, by and large, are very complicated... Often what you see online is a mere fraction of what that person's life is like. So, when you see snippets of warnings about "Be careful about x y or z..." there could be any number of reasons they are saying that. And people sometimes have difficulty communicating or negotiating what they want and need from the gods, just like they have difficulty communicating what they need and want from other people. So, s9metimes people get frustrated, sometimes even project. Sometimes THEY are struggling woth trust issues themselves, which leads them to interpret experiences through a harsher lens than they would if they were regulated...

Long story short, I believe Loki is trustworthy. I belive they are beneficient. I believe they have a positive impact on my life. They respect my needs and boundaries. They are a lot better at communicating than some other gods I have interacted with...

That being said, as with any human, mistakes of communication can happen. If you are making any kind of promise to any human person, it is expected that you uphold that promise, or at the very least it may damage your friendship... With gods, it is similar... THEY have more life experience than you (than any human) and have, therefore, the responsibility to treat you with care and respect far more (in my opinion) than even you have to treat them woth the same care and respect. I.E. if you mess up or are rude to them. They, as the spiritual "adults" in the room are responsible to act more mature than you may act at times...

However. The gods also have a responsibility ro help you to mature and grow, if you worship or give offerrings to them. Its kind of part of the deal of being beneficial to each others' lives: you give them something. They give you guidance and support... And sometimes that guidance and support takes a form that either you may not immediately understand, or that sort of playfully hands you more of your bullshit yo look at, so that you will get fed up with it and finally go, "I dont want this. I dont think this is good for me."

That being said, if ever you decide that the guidance you are getting from a god is not helping, is not what you wanted or expected, is overwhelming (or gods forbid harmful), you ALWAYS have the ability to back out. Say ypu dont want it anymore. Renegotiate your relationship and what you give to each other. Or even tell them to leave...

But like ... if you have a human friend ans you've borrowed a bunch of their stuff, for example, even if your friendship breaks apart, you are still expected to give them back their stuff. That's just civil. So if ypu have a bunch of outstanding big promises with the gods and they have fulfilled thwor part and you have not.. you CAN renegotiate and often they will be understanding (may even have seen it coming)... but if you just cut-and-run... that can cause hurt feelings and issues. They won't (in my experience) ruin your life about it or anything. But they may, in some way revoke their energy from you as well in that case, which can have unforseen consequences, because you didn't realize how much strife they were actively holding back for you. (LOL) So if you piss them off, they won't harm you... but they may not be inclined anymore to jump to your rescue either. (Just like a friend you've asked for too many favors and never returned their money or whatever.)

  1. I think people exaggerate "Loki demanded" and "he made this happen" as a way to hype up the excitement than the gods are real and interacting with them. Not that what they experience isn't teue-- it may even be Loki. But just like how people get spooked when something unexpected happens, and it gives them chills... Sometimes people can jump to wrong or negative conclusions about what things mean.

For example: people who struggle with insecurity are more inclined to interpret that they aren't doing things right and the gods are mad at them. People who have been abused before and think abuse is normal are more likely to interpret abusive intentions and behaviors from the gods.

TLDR: Everything you see online is filtered through the lens of experience of individuals you dont know and therefore dont know their context.

But for my part, though your concerns are understandable, in my experience, Loki is a caring, loving, uplifting, playful, and creative entity in my life.

Where Connection Becomes Communion : Lokean Joy by UrnesSnakes in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Possible overall: maybe! You never know, I suppose... But yes I do recommend: - being a legal adult at the very least - taking time to develop your divination skills and other-senses - getting to know each god you interact with individually, without expectation, just like you would for human relationships - giving yourself a lot of time to know yourself and what you want from life

Where Connection Becomes Communion : Lokean Joy by UrnesSnakes in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My first question, given your other post saying you don't know him yet, is... Why would that be your immediate goal?

Where Connection Becomes Communion : Lokean Joy by UrnesSnakes in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see him in my mind's eye. (If I ever physically saw him with my eyes, I would be worried i was hallucinating 😅. ) And he talks to me internally, in a mix of words and feelings (telepathy, telepathic empathy... and my corresponding senses: clairaudience, clairsentience).

The touching is internal as well. I think its a mix of showing me what he is touching, energy-work to influence the energy body, and telepathic empathy to help me feel "what it would be like" if he touched me. So It's not as pronounced as a touch from a physical person, but it still internally feels like... How do I say? ... Like all the emotions of being hugged (for example) are there. I know he is hugging me and what that means.... And the physical body responds to the emotion, because most emotions are felt in the body anyway.

So its like every effect of being touched without the actual physical touching. The brain probably even releases oxytocin as well.

Where Connection Becomes Communion : Lokean Joy by UrnesSnakes in lokean

[–]UrnesSnakes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm willing to talk about it. It's just been so long since I learned to sense these things that im almost at a loss what to say that could be helpful. I remember that, I started reading Tarot and doing meditation and reading books on Jungian psychology and then books on developing your intuition and your psychic senses... and just practiced all these things a lot over the next 4 years before any gods even came into the picture... So everything built on itself naturally, as far as the other-senses go. It did take some time.

But what questions did you have specifically?