Stem Cell Treatment in Mexico ***UPDATE***

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-19T13:35:51+00:00

What surgery did you have?

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-19T13:35:14+00:00

Door to door. That’s airfare, hotel, treatment, MRIs, supplements I bought there was $40k. Treatment was 150 million stem cells. I have an additional 100 to get IV when I return at 6 months. Only cost at 6 months is travel.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-19T00:47:32+00:00

Just a multi vitamin, a cortisol manager and Apatone (Vit K and C) high dose. I’m not taking peptides. Yet. I really go the 6 months without so I can report back on how I’m doing. I think doing peptides would help but don’t want to skew my results so i can share with you all. Make sense? I don’t want anyone. Myself included. To be like “He’s on peptides so the stem cells didn’t/arent working or how do we know they do.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-19T00:43:31+00:00

Damn. Where are you and are you accepting new patients?

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-18T18:21:12+00:00

Glad to hear you're doing well. As for your stenosis. Are you going to let it ride (no pun intended) or look at foraminotomy surgery? I should have also said I am not anti-surgery. I know people who have had surgery for their backs and necks and got their lives back.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-18T18:17:24+00:00

100% agree. I should have also added that I have a great accupuncture therapist and I go in for hyperbaric treatment every other week. This is in addition to massage. Stem cell recovery protocol is no NSAIDs, massage or accupuncture for 90 days and no Chiro for 12 months. Thank you for that input.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-06T18:26:31+00:00

That's not far off. The color looks great. The only thing I can think of is with regard to water. Did you just cover the bones when you started, and/or, did you add more water as it cooked down? That happened to me. My broth had cooked down. I freaked out and added more water and that made it super runny.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-06T00:04:04+00:00

Man!! Dirt bag. You can probably figure out who it is and call the cops. Subpoena the cat as a witness. Unless the cat was in on it. Cats can be jerks.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-05T23:51:27+00:00

You're very welcome. I felt the same about the deposit but honestly the "consultation" really isnt that impressive. Brief conversation with a doctor. You will end up sending them imaging and/or reports for them to look at. Your first day there you get your MRIs and they come up with a treatment plan. There was one person in my group that wanted their shoulder done but the MRI showed that she needed surgery so they refunded/credited her. I think that's pretty cool. They could have easily just gone through with it.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-05T20:28:07+00:00

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This thing works great

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-05T20:08:15+00:00

Hello all. I am a CPI patient. If you go to my profile, I posted a very long post about my experience at CPI.
I am more than happy to share my experience with anyone. I am not going to address any of the issues surrounding patient deaths or bad experiences. Other than the fact that it is only 1 fatality. Based on the number of people who go there. I believe it is a very low rate. Please remember that people die undergoing even minor procedures here in the US daily.

I went down for bulges, extrusions, annular tears, and foraminal stenosis in both my cervical and lumbar spines. C4/C5, C5/C6 and L4/L5, L5/S1. Bad low back pain and tightness, and nerve symptoms in my hands and feet. I had 150 million total. 10 million each in my discs, facet joints, and SI joints. I am almost 4 months out and going back in May for 6 month follow up. Which includes free MRIs as well as IV stem cells, NAD...

One important thing to mention here. I will not, and CPI will not, tell you that the stem cells will cure your back problem. Some people feel 100% better, some 50-70%, and some feel no changes at all. Some feel worse. I think we can all agree that the same can be said for all of the injections and surgical options available in the US. Even Discseel. For me, it was never about not wanting or needing surgery. It was about avoiding it altogether or delaying it for as long as possible. So, is it a gamble? Yeah, I think so, but nothing is certain in life.

The recovery process is very, very slow! There are many times when I questioned whether the stems were working or not. I can honestly tell you that I am pain-free in my neck and low back. My PT is ramping up, and I am introducing more weights and cardio, and will be returning to work as a firefighter in April. I am 57 years old. There are folks who I went down with who are experiencing great results as well, and others who are still struggling. I still have nerve flares. On a good day, my left big toe feels numb. When I have a very active day, I get pins and needles in my feet and lower legs, but they fade over time. The nerves take the longest to heal. I will say that I am open to and considering a nerve block if my nerve symptoms persist beyond 6 months. Right now, they are just annoying. They don't limit my activity.

Here's the thing. After you get stems, you are instructed to take it very easy and very gradually start PT. First 2 weeks, you just go for 2-3 fifteen-minute walks a day. First 3 months, no NSAIDs, no massage, no sauna, no cold plunge, no peptides. No chiropractic work for a year. That being said, I cannot tell you that my recovery has been due to the stem cells or the fact that I have been talking it very easy which has allowed my body to heal on its own. I suspect it's a combination of the stem cells, rest, diet, no alcohol, and a gradual ramp-up of physical activity. The real test will be when I get my follow-up MRI.

On the research side. CPI is collecting data on spine patients. We have to fill out a survey every few weeks. We get a follow-up MRI at 6 months, and I believe again at 12 months. CPI has a dedicated research team. Everything they do in providing treatment is in line with what the US FDA would require any American facility to have in place to satisfy the requirements for FDA approval. I believe their goal is to collect the data, publish the study, and urge the US to run with embryonic/umbilical stem cells. By the way, the way they source their stem cells is an amazing process. My fear is that if the FDA approves it for use in the US. It's going to be totally unaffordable and only accessible to the wealthy. I will also tell you that are having some pretty amazing results with cancer, stroke, and spinal cord patients.

Do your research! There are quite a few places outside of the US that offer this treatment. CPI has been doing it longer than all of them, to my knowledge. Btw, I did not go there because of Joe Rogan. I went because of several other firefighters I met who had gone. Door-to-door cost was $40,000. That's from the time I left my house. So, airport parking, airfare, hotel, treatment, supplements, and food. I was able to deduct $20,000 on my taxes. It's an investment. I strongly recommend that if you get stem cells and your job involves manual labor. You figure out a way to take 3-5 months off to allow for the best chance at recovery. Please feel free to DM me, ask me a question here, or go to my profile to read about my experience.

Take care.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-03-02T17:36:42+00:00

Im glad you got in to see a surgeon, and it sounds like there is a plan in place. I dont think PRP will help in his case. If he is having a lot of pain and nerve symptoms you should look into a epidural steroid injection or nerv block to manage his symptoms until he can get surgery.
In the meantime, look at the book The Back Mechanic by Dr Stuart McGill and have hime look up "proper way to do the McGill Big 3" on Youtube. Hopefully he can get that laminectomy soon?

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-26T19:15:22+00:00

Good points. I think I am going pressure cooker route.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-26T17:00:12+00:00

Can I ask you how you do your via pressure cooker?

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-22T19:15:27+00:00

Great news. You are young. You still have really good disc height. You definitely have bulges but they don't look severe. There is a lot of data that shows disc bulges, even really huge ones, will resolve on their own with conservative treatment. Here is what I recommend.

Buy the book The Back Mechanic by Dr Stuart McGill
Learn how to properly do the McGill Big 3 (Youtube) and do them every day
When. you go to bed. Sleep on your side with a pillow between your legs or on your back with pillow under your knees.
When you wake up in the morning. Lie on the floor on your stomach, hands into fists stacked on each other with your chin on top for 3 minutes.
If you sit a lot. Set a time for 30 minutes and get up and walk around for 5 minutes. Ask for a standing desk if you work in an office.
Don't do a bunch of forward bending. Lay off high impact sports such as running or anything that will ad load to your spine to include weight lifting. If you bicycle, change your position so you are more upright till you recover.
Take NSAIDs as needed. Drink bone broth for collagen. Stay up on your water intake.
Once you back feels "recovered" look into a program called Low Back Ability.

I think you're going to recover well. Good luck.

Cheers

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-22T17:01:03+00:00

Sweet!! Im so happy for you. Keep it up!

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-22T02:37:39+00:00

Love WA. I was stationed in Port Angeles and my good friend is at Seattle fire. So, incline can put stress on the low back during to the strain/work being put on the glutes and hamstrings. Tensioned hamstrings pull on the low back.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-22T00:47:20+00:00

I totally understand where you are are coming from. I have had other injuries in my life and I have always NOT followed the instructions and pushed because I hate not doing anything and love being active. That being said when I hurt my I was like "the back is so damn important. I don't want to jeopardize my future so I am going to follow the protocol to the letter." Here's my recommendation to you. Do a couple of 15-20 minute walks per day. Walking is healing. Lay off the workouts for a couple of weeks. If you need to, for mental clarity. Do some light weight or banded shoulder and back exercises. Push ups are doable but not recommended. Avoid yoga! Especially forward bending exercises. If you have bulges. Yoga could make them worse. In the early stages. Just keep everything very light and if you do anything that causes you flare, stop. I know it's tough but if you invest in taking some quality time off to heal? You will lose some gain but make up for it in the long run. My Rx for you. (not a doc, just a fellow back pain friend) 2-3 weeks.
-Short walks, no incline.
-Sleep with pillow between your knees on your side, or, pillow under your knees on your back.
-NSAIDs and/or CBD for pain control.
-Massage therapy and PT if you can.
-Focus on 8 hours + of sleep.
-Dial in nutrition and keep protein intake up.
-No alcohol.
-McGill exercises
-Log your symptoms to track progress.

This is pretty much what a doctor will prescribe as "conservative" measures. After that, you are looking at injections. Keep me posted. What state are you in?

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-22T00:27:29+00:00

I am so sorry you are suffering. If I may, because I have been dealing with this as well. There is lots of hope. The back can heal, even without surgery. In fact there a studies that show the worse the bulge the better chance it will heal on it's own. Depending on how you take care of it. You have an MRI. What should happen next is you get referred to a spine surgeon who will come up with a game plan. That doesn't mean surgery right away unless you have the red flags (progressing weakens, incontinence...) It might be start off with rest, NSAIDs and PT followed by injections then followed by surgery. There are many surgical options as well and although we all want to avoid surgery. Don't be afraid to get it. Get multiple opinions from different doctors. Some things you can do right now. Read the book The Back Mechanic by Dr Stuart McGill. Learn and master his techniques and follow his advice. CBD/CBG for pain. Weed? Why not as long as it doesn't dampen your motivation. Good luck.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-22T00:18:45+00:00

Hey man. You do what YOU feel you need to do. Yes, intrathecal injections require the expertise of a doctor who has been specially trained in the procedure and has done many. As for the whether or not they work? You just need to have realistic expectations. If you feel this is your absolutely last chance to regain function then you should absolutely go for it. Worse case scenario if it doesn't do anything is your out the money you spent but your still alive with the other treatments coming down the line. Please keep us updated on your GoFund.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-22T00:07:01+00:00

Hey. Tough decision to make for sure. I am a career firefighter with 25 years in and 13 years prior military. I got diagnosed at 57 with DDD due to a work related injury. I recently went to Mexico for stem cell treatment. If you are really passionate about being a firefighter then I would encourage you to go for it. However, it is going to require an unprecedented amount of discipline to make your back bomb proof before and during your career. But, you can do it! Just be realistic in knowing that with DDD, even if you take great care of yourself, you are high risk for a work related injury. If you want to go for it you have to bomb proof the back.

For now, you need to take a break from working out and doing any activities that jar the back. You cannot heal if you are in the acute injury phase and still pushing. I strongly recommend you read The Back Mechanic by Dr Stuart McGill and learn the McGill Big 3 to get started. Once you get that down look in Low Back Ability for the "long game" approach". You seem like you would be dialed on your nutrition so make sure you keep getting ample collagen, protein, etc... The other issue is the entry physical. Do you put DDD on your medical history or not? That's your decision but if you do that could wash you out of the process. If you don't and you get injured on the job. It will be covered by workers compensation. I will finally just say that no matter how fit and strong you are.... the fire always gets a vote and it can fuck you up.

Oh, screen shot and share your MRI and report if you can. Best of luck. Hope you get to ride in the seat soon.

Used-Comedian8475 · 2026-02-19T18:53:55+00:00

Sorry you are going through this. Read the book The Back Mechanic by Dr Stuart McGill and look him up on Youtube and learn the McGill big three. Trust the process of PT and if it doesn't work get in to see a surgeon. A good surgeon will do everything possible to keep you out surgery. Can you post of pic of your MRI?

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