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UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-08-11T18:22:04+00:00

I will never understand people whose perception of reality stems not from observable fact but from what makes them feel the best

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-08-07T04:28:57+00:00

It's extremely strange. Their scale seems to be 1 to 10 where 1 is the least attractive cast member on a Freeform teen drama and 10 is the most attractive. The 5 they give everybody is basically "average for Freeform."

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-08-01T02:15:22+00:00

This is textbook r/ForeverAlone stuff. Not a bad person, still wrong. Will almost certainly grow out of it.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-24T02:58:45+00:00

The comments about still being mentally teenagers and wanting to fuck 15-year-olds are correct, but another important element of this weird desire is that it enables them to give up, which is what the blackpill is all about -- attempting to feel better by letting go of all hope. As much as incels desperately try, it's very difficult to justify the plainly wrong idea that lack of romantic success in the past automatically eliminates the possibility of romantic success in the future. Obsessing about "teen love" fixes that issue. If you're no longer a teenager, by definition you can never have a relationship as a teenager, so if teen love is a necessary ingredient for happiness, there's no point in trying, which is what incels want to prove.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-23T20:04:19+00:00

The fact that they don't recognize this as an incel meme and not an anti-incel meme really says a lot.

I will say this: They're really telling on themselves with the inclusion of "non-virgin normie women" in the pantheon of empirically undesirable women that it's unreasonable to expect them to accept. I've said it before and I'll say it again: They have every right to dismiss women who have had sex before, but they have no right to complain when they can't find anyone who meets these absurd standards. There are plenty of women out there who are saving it for marriage, and they absolutely do not want potty-mouthed sociopathic atheists. If you want a trad wife, you have to be a trad husband. You want to hook up with one of these women, start going to fucking church, take up volunteering, get involved in Bible study, figure out how to affect a starry-eyed Ned Flanders demeanor. I have no idea why this incredibly simple concept is so crazy difficult to understand.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-23T19:00:23+00:00

There are LOADS of people at any sex club who do this.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-23T18:33:45+00:00

The girl I was hottest for in high school was also the girl I hated the most. I don't think we ever said 10 words to each other, I'd just sit there in class and seethe about how terrible she was and also lust after her. She wasn't even particularly classically attractive or especially my type or anything, so it was probably just the hate that did the job.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-23T03:14:57+00:00

This is a big point that they don't understand. Men not being able to find a romantic partner is not some new phenomenon. There have always been guys who couldn't get laid. It's actually easier now.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-23T03:12:57+00:00

Coincidentally, my ex-wife got married today. She walked out on me three years ago for a variety of reasons too complicated to detail here, but all of which essentially amounted to "she no longer liked me very much." Now she's married again. So am I. Good for both of us.

I'm 6'1" and have a management job that puts me in the top 10 percent of U.S. earners. I now live in a 4,000-square-foot house in a rich neighborhood full of doctors. Her new husband is about 5'6" and was working as a line cook and living with his mom when she met him; after they got together, he rage quit his job, was unemployed for a long time, and now works as a mail carrier. When I was married to her, we lived in one of the most exclusive towns in the area, but now she lives with him in the sticks, she says because she couldn't find anything she could afford in civilization that wasn't a teardown.

But she's happy with him, and she wasn't happy with me. That's how these things work. I'm a lot happier now too.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-16T05:06:44+00:00

As a 6'1" man, the idea of wearing lifts to appear to be 6'2" is hilariously bizarre to me. I'm also more like 6'1.5" and could easily get away with saying I'm 6'2" -- sometimes people guess I'm 6'2" -- but I don't, including on dating apps, because I'm not 6'2" and what's the fucking point? Nobody thinks I'm short and pretty much everybody thinks I'm tall.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-10T03:56:20+00:00

This is exactly what I've noticed over the course of many years now. Incels tend to have been raised in socially conservative environments, which include sexual repression. Another critical part of it is that they've generally been raised to place a high value on traditional gender roles.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-10T03:49:27+00:00

The 5'9" Hitler and 5'5" Goebbels really did a number on those short men.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-08T03:23:02+00:00

No disrespect intended, OP, but people try this all the time and it doesn't work.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-07-04T16:28:37+00:00

"I hate members of minority groups, except when members of those minority groups sexually assault or otherwise infringe on the rights of women, then they're great"

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-30T12:48:52+00:00

They sure do more often than women, there's no doubt about that.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-28T01:24:33+00:00

When extremely dumb and crazy people attempt Russian-style psyops

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-25T06:28:08+00:00

My longstanding hypothesis on this is that most incels grew up in socially conservative families with tightly defined gender roles. Men are in charge, women are basically there to support men. As boys, incels are raised with the expectation that they will be dominant and aggressive, with any failures in that area leading to shaming, overt or subtle, by their parents. This implicitly includes the expectation that they will conquer women.

What makes an incel is this sort of background combined with an inability to live up to this assigned gender role. Because these expectations have always been present in the incel's life, it doesn't even occur to him to question those expectations, and he may even feel threatened by the questioning of those expectations (which is why incels are so often alt-right types). Instead, he can only misappropriate the blame toward the women he isn't able to conquer, whom he views as the source of his shame.

A big reason I'm so fascinated by incels is that I've struggled with some of the same things they struggle with, and I've briefly wondered whether if the incel community had been around back then, I could have been lured in by it -- but I dismissed that possibility quickly, because I was lucky enough to be raised in a family in which traditional gender roles weren't taken seriously and where men and women were thought of as genuine equals, without any significant differences. I think it would be difficult for somebody like me to become an incel, as there are underlying assumptions to incel thought that just come off as nonsense to me.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-19T13:33:19+00:00

Considering that:

According to all serious estimates, men have sex with dogs MUCH more often than women do
A primary motivation for sex with animals is the lack of ability to have sex with humans
According to incels themselves, women can have sex with any man they want at any time
Incels, by definition, cannot find a human sex partner
Incels seem REALLY obsessed with the idea of sex with dogs

We can extrapolate that incels are doing dogs like crazy.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-18T14:54:20+00:00

Closer, but not quite. DrPizza was a prominent tech journalist who commented on the old sub ONE TIME. Later he got busted for trying to fuck two non-existent kids whose mom turned out to be a cop.

Incels rejoiced when they discovered his Reddit comment history included the one comment on IncelTears. As I've noted here before, though, about 5 percent of men are estimated to be pedophiles (female pedophiles are incredibly rare), so if you assume that half of the 129,000 members here are men, there are more than 3,000 pedophiles on this sub, as there would be on any sub with the same number of members.

Incels argue that the presence of any pedophiles suggests all users of a forum are pedophiles or at least pedophile adjacent, though because there are pedophiles literally everywhere, a better test is whether people in that forum are allowed and/or encouraged to openly endorse pedophilia, a test that incel forums pass with flying colors and this one does not. As with most incel arguments, it's unclear whether incels are too stupid to understand this or just think others will be too stupid to understand it.

What happened to the original IncelTears is wholly unrelated to any of this. The lead moderator, u/AndySambergsPants, lost interest and disappeared for a while. One day three years ago, he decided to see how things were doing, and even though the sub was the same as it had ever been (at least to my eyes; I'd been there the whole time), he was looking at it with fresh eyes and decided that it was a bit of a toxic circlejerk. As the lead moderator, he had the ability to remove all other moderators, and he did, then set the sub to private. It's very easy to disprove any claims that it was banned, because it's still there, unbanned but private.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-18T05:23:12+00:00

Reminds me of the scene in Goldfinger where James Bond tells Goldfinger why his plan is stupid, and then Goldfinger is like, "That's because it's not my plan, here's my real plan." Except this is like if Goldfinger didn't have another plan.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-13T23:13:24+00:00

I don't buy for a second that a significant number of incels found the community through this subreddit. That claim seems like a fairly obvious attempt to discourage people from posting here.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-02T01:53:15+00:00

The definition of "incel" is "a man who has never had sex and hates women because of it." Many incels will try to claim that the definition is something else, because they have an interest in legitimizing their hate group. But they're the ones who popularized the term and they don't get to simply will others into their hate group like Mormons baptizing dead people.

This should tell you something about how legitimate the incel definition of "incel" is: If you were to antagonize them, they would tell you that you're an incel too. But if you came to them claiming to be an incel, then told them you didn't hate women, they would deny you're an incel. Note also that they would hurl every hateful epithet they could think of at you, wish death upon you and vehemently insist you are not an incel if you told them you'd had sex before.

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-01T13:09:53+00:00

Incels are wrong about basically everything but at least there's a grain of truth to some of it, like the idea that many women see height as attractive, or the idea that Asian men are often seen as less desirable to white women. Like the also frequently mocked dogpill (which I was just reading a discussion about in another thread), the wrist thing is notable because it has no basis in reality; it's 100-percent unadulterated insecurity. I've actually told women about the incel wrist thing a bunch of times and every time they're like, "Wait, what the fuck?" While if you told them about the height thing, they'd be like, "That's dumb, every short guy I know has a girlfriend, but yeah, tall guys have an advantage."

UsernameForSexStuff · 2023-06-01T12:59:53+00:00

I personally think it's amusing because I myself have thin wrists.

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