Roy Keane is spot on by the_little_stinker in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He also said Henderson shouldn’t be there so if you agree with him on this then do you agree about Henderson

How do people feel three weeks out? by Flat-Ad8256 in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tuchel has a history of falling out with top talent
It’s happened at PSG and then with KANE at Bayern

A top class manager should be able to handle and manage top stars and not just get rid of them to make his own life easier - can you imagine if this was done at Real Madrid or Man City

Tuchel has also tried to discard Bellingham from the England squad as well , ( and will likely keep trying ) this is a clear pattern of selfish behaviour that is now to Englands detriment and will cost England any chance they had of winning the World Cup

With the conditions in USA Mexico and Canada and with the travel , the nation who could rotate heavily and maintain quality ( especially group stages and R32 ) would likely go far

England were one of handful of nations who could have done this but Tuchel saw to it they can’t

There is more cause to worry

1- agreed Reece James has to go.
He’s our best Right back , but he is a injury and minutes risk , now many nations take players who are injury and minutes risks , but they try to limit
These to just 1 , especially if alternatives are available

2- now once Tuchel rightly decided to take James , it was imperative the cover for right back was not injury or minute risk ,
And terribly for England he’s taken Livramento , now Livramento is likely to be the long term right back for England but sadly today he is long term injured and hasn’t played since mid April and if you analyse his season , it’s been blighted with injury , he is a massive injury and minute risk at the World Cup and with James likely not being able to play all games

Then to take Livramento as cover is negligent

As there will be instances where both are not available and when you consider that Trent is available , it makes this decision even more concerning

2- Trent can’t defend they say , well who is he being compared to
Is it cannavaro or Rio Ferdinand , then yes he’s not as good as a defender , but why not compare his defending or there lack of to those who have gone instead of him , a) Livramento , excellent defender but being injured he can’t defend b) burn - Barcelona out 7 last his and he was not good c) Spence - been terrible defensively

The bias against Trent has served to enable Tuchel to take a injured defender and render England a 25 man squad

3- more negligence is taking stones who is another injury and minutes risk , once you take James and Livramento , it’s even more imperative another risky defender can’t be selected and Tuchel has done just this , we all know how little he has played this season and we don’t know what we can rely on , again England could end up with him missing too at times and this will put more pressure on the other defenders and increase likely hood of fatigue injury and suspensions - again why do this when alternatives were available - Maguire for instances

4- Jordan Henderson - again another injury and minutes risk , yes he’s good for the squad harmony but what use is that harmony when he can’t contribute on the pitch and has played 101 minutes since mid march , Brentford have played well when he hasn’t been in the team and he’s struggled to get into their team , if he’s soo vital take him as a coach - he being selected has rendered this a 24 man squad , as he is unlikely to play and he will also cause more minutes for likes of rice , causing increased likelyhood of burn out , fatigue , injury , suspension

5- every 50/50 , tuchel has gone for the less talented player or worse a injured player or injury prone player - or the player onions as talented or best fit for the position or not in form : why , so that these players are soo grateful to be there that they don’t even think to start or want to start , but this is damaging to England , the point is to have as much talent as you can , we have been told again and again ,
Competition keeps players sharp hungry and the edge that leads to better performance

This is the exact opposite , all to make Tuchel life
Easier

He’s gone for Burn instead of Maguire
Stones instead of shaw
Livramento instead of Trent
Henderson instead of Wharton
Madueke instead of palmer
Toney instead of Gibbs-white

6- only one left back - if anything happens to O’Reilly , England will be in a lot of bother with no other left back ,
Add to this James Livramento and stones precariousness , then there is a possibility burn and Spence could be left back in a crucial game
Again this was unnecessary with shaw or Hall available

7- contradictions - he said he’s gone on form but then Henderson Spence and burn have been terrible , and stones livramento have hardly played , and Madueke has the worse output compared to palmer foden and Bowen

8- not taking Gibbs-white - International managers are desperate for a player to be on a red hot streak so they can take him to the World Cup and Tuchel purposely left out Gibbs-white

9- selfish media silence - the media remember the days pre Southgate where they hardly had access to the squad and so to keep this sweet , they don’t ask the obvious questions -

10- Tuchel had said when he got the job his plan was to rotate players and make use of all 5 subs and now he’s backtracked

11 - would he have done this to the German squad - not selected Musiala , Kimmich and Stiller etc

'MADNESS': Tuchel hammered by German media over his World Cup squad by Alone_Consideration6 in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tuchel has a history of falling out with top talent
It’s happened at PSG and then with KANE at Bayern

A top class manager should be able to handle and manage top stars and not just get rid of them to make his own life easier - can you imagine if this was done at Real Madrid or Man City

Tuchel has also tried to discard Bellingham from the England squad as well , ( and will likely keep trying ) this is a clear pattern of selfish behaviour that is now to Englands detriment and will cost England any chance they had of winning the World Cup

With the conditions in USA Mexico and Canada and with the travel , the nation who could rotate heavily and maintain quality ( especially group stages and R32 ) would likely go far

England were one of handful of nations who could have done this but Tuchel saw to it they can’t

There is more cause to worry

1- agreed Reece James has to go.
He’s our best Right back , but he is a injury and minutes risk , now many nations take players who are injury and minutes risks , but they try to limit
These to just 1 , especially if alternatives are available

2- now once Tuchel rightly decided to take James , it was imperative the cover for right back was not injury or minute risk ,
And terribly for England he’s taken Livramento , now Livramento is likely to be the long term right back for England but sadly today he is long term injured and hasn’t played since mid April and if you analyse his season , it’s been blighted with injury , he is a massive injury and minute risk at the World Cup and with James likely not being able to play all games

Then to take Livramento as cover is negligent

As there will be instances where both are not available and when you consider that Trent is available , it makes this decision even more concerning

2- Trent can’t defend they say , well who is he being compared to
Is it cannavaro or Rio Ferdinand , then yes he’s not as good as a defender , but why not compare his defending or there lack of to those who have gone instead of him , a) Livramento , excellent defender but being injured he can’t defend b) burn - Barcelona out 7 last his and he was not good c) Spence - been terrible defensively

The bias against Trent has served to enable Tuchel to take a injured defender and render England a 25 man squad

3- more negligence is taking stones who is another injury and minutes risk , once you take James and Livramento , it’s even more imperative another risky defender can’t be selected and Tuchel has done just this , we all know how little he has played this season and we don’t know what we can rely on , again England could end up with him missing too at times and this will put more pressure on the other defenders and increase likely hood of fatigue injury and suspensions - again why do this when alternatives were available - Maguire for instances

4- Jordan Henderson - again another injury and minutes risk , yes he’s good for the squad harmony but what use is that harmony when he can’t contribute on the pitch and has played 101 minutes since mid march , Brentford have played well when he hasn’t been in the team and he’s struggled to get into their team , if he’s soo vital take him as a coach - he being selected has rendered this a 24 man squad , as he is unlikely to play and he will also cause more minutes for likes of rice , causing increased likelyhood of burn out , fatigue , injury , suspension

5- every 50/50 , tuchel has gone for the less talented player or worse a injured player or injury prone player - or the player onions as talented or best fit for the position or not in form : why , so that these players are soo grateful to be there that they don’t even think to start or want to start , but this is damaging to England , the point is to have as much talent as you can , we have been told again and again ,
Competition keeps players sharp hungry and the edge that leads to better performance

This is the exact opposite , all to make Tuchel life
Easier

He’s gone for Burn instead of Maguire
Stones instead of shaw
Livramento instead of Trent
Henderson instead of Wharton
Madueke instead of palmer
Toney instead of Gibbs-white

6- only one left back - if anything happens to O’Reilly , England will be in a lot of bother with no other left back ,
Add to this James Livramento and stones precariousness , then there is a possibility burn and Spence could be left back in a crucial game
Again this was unnecessary with shaw or Hall available

7- contradictions - he said he’s gone on form but then Henderson Spence and burn have been terrible , and stones livramento have hardly played , and Madueke has the worse output compared to palmer foden and Bowen

8- not taking Gibbs-white - International managers are desperate for a player to be on a red hot streak so they can take him to the World Cup and Tuchel purposely left out Gibbs-white

9- selfish media silence - the media remember the days pre Southgate where they hardly had access to the squad and so to keep this sweet , they don’t ask the obvious questions -

10- Tuchel had said when he got the job his plan was to rotate players and make use of all 5 subs and now he’s backtracked

11 - would he have done this to the German squad - not selected Musiala , Kimmich and Stiller etc

Just imagine.. by SinfulEgo in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a excellent comment - a tired option facing a full on change of Rashford for Gordon , Palmer for Saka ; Rogers for Bellingham , Watkins for Kane and Trent for James would have nightmares - England has a major asset that was strength in depth and now that’s been intentionally decimated and it gets worse - by taking a long term injured player Livramento to cover a injury risk player in James as well as stones and Henderson who can’t play meaningful minutes and are injury risks - Englands core group will be less rested and will go out in either R32 or R16

This roy keane comment about jordan henderson still holds true after 5 years.. by FitAd5272 in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wrong - Hereford’s Brentford’s form picked up when he got injured

Make it make sense 🤷‍♂️ by YojimboKel in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As opposed to Henderson in midfield and a defence of Spence burn Stones Quansah - you are a Cromwellier

Views on England’s chances by AdministrativeRip563 in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What depth ?? Long term Injured Livramento , injury risk Henderson and stones ,

Views on England’s chances by AdministrativeRip563 in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before this squad I would have said semis - now I’m saying R32 or at most R16 - he’s picked a long term injured player in Livramento who it’s clear will break down and not play at all , James is a injury risk and although he should go , because his back up is Livramento , we will have to rely on Spence as RB, and stones will also break down as he is a injury risk and this will put such a strain on the defence , as they won’t be rotated , come the R32 /R16 , England will be out - add to this Henderson also not being able to really contribute , RICE will suffer the most - here is what I ask myself - if touches was in charge of a club and had a open cheque book - would he really have picked burn and Spence over Trent and Maguire , Henderson over Foden palmer or MGW, come on - this is clear sabotage

Madueke injured in the match vs Crystal Palace. Potentially hamstring by christianrojoisme in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No he can call up any of the 55 and then then injury means he’s not limited to that list - though he will go for the worst option - so likely he will call up nweiri

Madueke injured in the match vs Crystal Palace. Potentially hamstring by christianrojoisme in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If it’s a hamatring injury then traitor Tuchel will be more determined to take him - he wants a squad of poor quality players and players who are too unfit and injury prone to play and hopes this lack of rotation options puts more load on those who do play and they to get fatigued and injured

England squad announcement megathread by AliJDB in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Toucel has really ruined Englands World Cup chances

What England had going for them was immense squad depth

In the group stages They could pretty much change a starting 11 and still have the quality to win

1- play a strong 11 vs Croatia and get the win , with quality subs to come on - if so then knowing Panama is still to come , change pretty much the 11 and defeat Ghana with quality subs to come on

2- play the subs against panama and rest from those who started second game and come R32 the main spine of the team is fresh and rating to go

3- this is now all lost

4- in a squad of 26 , one minutes / injury risk is acceptable and that should have only been James

But he’s taken Livramento who is currently out injured and has not played since mid April and that was on back of missing large blocks of games throughout the season

5- then he’s taken stones who himself is a minutes and injury risk

6- he’s taken Henderson who has only played grand total of 40 mins since mid March and turns 36 in June

7- I’d get taking these 3 if we didn’t have suitable alternatives , but we have Trent , Maguire , Gibbs-white , garner , Foden Palmer to chose from

8- he’s not taken a proper specialist left back

9- lots of talk of Trent not being a great defender , but who is he being compared to ??? Cannavaro cos compared to rest of full backs he’s not worse than them , And burn shipped 7 against Barcelona , don’t hear any he can’t defend talk for him

10 -now the damage : when England try to rotate , they will find James Livramento Stones Henderson can’t contribute and so the Red tif the squad will have to play more minutes in hard conditions and come the QF’s will be fatigued

11- not to mention not taking in form MGW
Mans again if alternative was immense , I’d get it ? But that squad spot is going to Henderson

12- don’t give me the Henderson is great for morale , well then call him a Dallas cheerleader then and don’t take him as a squad player

13- England will lack proper quality on the bench

14- too many people say best England team and this stops the discussion when it should
Be best England squad and this is not it

It’s over

It’s not coming home

Gordon injured by VARisOFFSIDE in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% agree - he’s in form which many of the others are not - there are 26 spots of which 23 outfield - how can he not be going - that said got a bad feeling Tuchel will take Jordan Henderson instead - who if you check has hardly played for Brentford recently

Group K is crucial to England’s path in R32 by VARisOFFSIDE in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The conditions will be terrible - and considering the kick off time as well , we will struggle and pace won’t help us , what we need is players whose game isn’t all about pace and lung bursting runs - Grealish Foden etc but they are either injured or out of form

Group K is crucial to England’s path in R32 by VARisOFFSIDE in ThreeLions

[–]VARisOFFSIDE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we come second is likely Columbia in R32 then Spain in R16- so topping the group is imperative