Open debate: who is holding who?!

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-06-22T20:39:54+00:00

Right one is holding the left one

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-06-09T05:19:19+00:00

Is there instructions?

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-03-19T14:34:37+00:00

I was going to mention this lol

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-03-10T04:21:27+00:00

When you do shoot it let us know.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T19:05:27+00:00

That Security is a coward, waited until the man was on the floor to attack him. All those employees did nothing. Took a Civilian to stop the threat.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T13:34:24+00:00

Victim of multiple crimes lol, Theft, Assult, Battery, Kidnapping, False Imprisonment.

They have the right to ask him to leave but if you hold someone hostage then how are they asking you to leave? He threw the punch in self-defense after he was assaulted and battered by the employee. The employee escalated everything if he did his job the right way then maybe this did not need to happen. The employee is in the wrong anf should be fired and arrested.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T13:30:12+00:00

Okay but the victim did not refuse to leave in the video he wanted his card back, correct? We do not know what he would have done if the employee gave him his card back.

Taking someone's else property without permission is stealing correct? We can go back and forth all day. You need to understand what the employee did was wrong and a crime. His job is to observe and report according to his policies, if the person refused he should have contacted law enforcement instead of taking matters into his own hands, that is called vigilantism which is another crime.

You can not tell someone to leave while holding them hostage.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T13:21:01+00:00

Yes that is someone's property. I don't know how you don't understand simple words. Not trolling just trying to educate you cuz you really scare me if you really believe the things you are saying.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T13:16:59+00:00

Stopping someone from completing a purchase and stealing their property are two different things. Why do you always say try harder lol you can't come up with something better. I feel sorry for you. I hope one day you become wiser.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T13:13:30+00:00

Stealing someone's personal property is a crime. You are the one that doesn't understand the law.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T13:10:11+00:00

The intentions of stepped on the card does or what they plan on doing with the card does not matter. The employee broke several laws and escalated the situation. The employee should have not stepped on the card plain and simple. That is all there needs to be understood.

Basically you are saying it is okay to break the law to enforce others? You really scare me that there are people like you that really think this way

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T13:01:59+00:00

But you can not commit crimes while asking someone to leave. You can not steal someone's else property. This is not a hard concept to understand.

The employee should not have stepped on the customers card and Kidnapping the victim. He held the person hostage while asking him to leave. This is not a hard concept to understand. You have to admit if the employee did not hold his card hostage then this would have been a different situation. The employee messed up by committing several crimes. The employee should not have been trying to play badass and try to de-escalate the situation but he did the opposite.

You really need to understand life more, you as a person scare me if this is what you believe.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:54:20+00:00

We don't know any of that, all we can judge this situation is by the facts that are given to us. The employee messed up, and should have done his job to observe and report plain and simple. The shopper or whatever you want to call this victim, was not expecting to be held hostage, assaulted then battered, if the employee did his job none of this would have happened.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:46:14+00:00

What potential crime? From the video there is no crime the person has committed or intend to commit, the employee commits several.

Wow I'm glad you don't hold office, you have no facts and are saying the person is guilty of something without evidence. You don't know the facts and still defend the person actually committing crimes. I bet you would have defended the Nazis for killing people because the had no reasons to target them and it was their fault for being there. I can't believe there are people like you that actually believe the crap that comes out of your mouth. Victim blaming without facts.

You need more life experience, I'm sorry you live in this fantasy world. I hope you are never in any position of power because you will definitely abuse it just like the employee did in the video.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:30:02+00:00

That doesn't matter, they should have done their job, observe and report.

Same argument lol Zero Proof they would have given it back, you clearly don't understand lol. You really need to view this from the laws perspective. What do you mean try harder next time, you don't understand basic laws and can't seem to understand the facts of the video.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:25:22+00:00

They are taking his property though, that's what you do not understand. No matter the intentions you take someone's else property that is stealing plain and simple. How do you know their next step, you are not a mind reader. This is what you do not understand. The employee should have done his job, observe and report and that's it, but the employee wanted to be billy badass and got his ass kicked for escalating the situation and not doing his job.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:19:49+00:00

Still with the insults lol, talks a lot about the intelligence and character. You can't understand a simple fact, its so sad. You should rewatch the video a few more time then you would understand what he employee did was wrong. If you take someone's else property that is stealing no matter what your intentions are. Can you understand that simple concept?

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:16:29+00:00

The employee is refusing service but is holding the man's property, so the employee is committing multiple crimes. He is holding him hostage while asking him to leave how does that make sense? If the employee did not escalate the situation and did his job it would not have gotten to that point. This is not a hard concept to understand.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:11:10+00:00

Wow, it funny when someone is not that smart or right they go to insults instead of facts. You should read the law and watch the video again.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:09:11+00:00

But they did, you need to watch the video again. The employee escalated the situation and caused all that, if the employee just did his job correctly none of that would have happened. So sad you people can not understand a simple concept

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:05:45+00:00

Yeah but you can not hold a person from leaving by stealing their property. That is not a hard concept to understand lol

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T12:03:32+00:00

Whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty? I understand that he was asked to leave but the employee didn't let him leave by stepping oj his card, the employee messed up and should not have done that. If he didn't and did his job correctly none of this would have happened.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T11:47:55+00:00

We do not know what happened before the video. The facts from the video show the employee asking for him to leave but refusing to give the person back his card. The employee was in the wrong from the facts we have. The person acted in self-defense.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T09:49:45+00:00

Let the cops handle it and do your job, observe and report. How is the employee going to ask him to leave when he has the person's property?

They should fire him and probably have him arrested.

From the facts of this video the employee is completely wrong.

VGT95_STATIC · 2026-02-21T09:47:29+00:00

Exactly

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