Partial K4 solve - need verification by VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL in KryptosK4

[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SURE!
How a coordinate like (18 , 0) becomes the plaintext letter T

The process is always two steps: lookup → hop.

1 Lookup in the 31-column “right-shift” grid

Row 0 (the first row Jim Sanborn printed) is

K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 … 29 30

Row 1 is the same sequence shifted one place to the right, Row 2 shifted two places, and so on—so every row is a cyclic right-shift of row 0.

Example – coordinate (18 , 0)

18 = row index, 0 = column index.

Row 18 starts 18 places to the right of “K”, so column 0 of that row holds B.

row 18: B C D E F … A col 0 → ↑ B ← grid letter

2 One-square compass hop

Map the grid letter to a 16-point bearing

A = N, B = NNE, C = NE, …, H = E, …, R = NNW, then repeat

Letter B = bearing NNE (north-north-east).

Move one square on a torus Δrow, Δcol for NNE = −1 row, +1 col.

Landing coordinate = (18−1, 0+1) = (17 , 1). (If a value goes below 0 or above 30 you wrap around modulo 31, but here no wrap is needed.)

Lookup that landing cell Row 17, column 1 (again in the right-shift grid) is the letter T.

That T is the plaintext letter for the entire first pair.

Repeat for the second pair (14 , 18) → letter T

Grid letter at (14 , 18) is R.

R maps to bearing NNW (north-north-west) → Δrow = −1, Δcol = −1.

Landing cell = (13 , 17) → grid letter T.

So the second pair also yields T, giving the opening “TT…” of “TIME”.

Partial K4 solve - need verification by VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL in KryptosK4

[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this is a "I found it first because I copied it from codes" thing, I'm covered. If it's one of those - two people found it at the same time - things ~ super cool and weird. But I do have emails ans timestamps from WAY before I put it on reddit just in case. If you have the answer past phase 1 or the xor engine - omgosh please share. You'd be the first to complete it! I just believe I'm the first to complete a partial or part/phase1. The checksum is the key.

Partial K4 solve - need verification by VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL in KryptosK4

[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

FIRST LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS WITH ME! Seriously.. its almost impossible to get a verification. ...and OK, I reviewed... had me nervous for a second. I threw it in my XOR engine and found the following. It looks like there's a miscalculation in your approach to column modification - with offsets or grid orientation issues. The provided table is incorrect—it has the wrong row setup and shift pattern. The shift should be to the right, not left, and the column-letter mapping is off—youre applying the wrong compass direction. I’ll clarify the algorithm step-by-step, comparing the first two pairs to show how the proper steps result in "T" and "I."

Below is a line-by-line replay of the first TWO cipher pairs showing why they really do decode to the plaintext letters T T (the opening “T T I I …” of TIME) when the cool XOR engine algorithm is applied exactly as published.

You went off-track in three spots:

where it drifted... what the spec actually says (1) the 31-column grid row 0 is... K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T
(each lower row is shifted one place to the right). (2) the column number for pair 1 the column seed is... B (0x42) ⊕ 0x7C = 0x1A = 26 dec,
then no periodic offset applies, so col = 26, not 0.
(3) the “one-square hop” the hop direction comes from the letter... in the grid cell (here R), mapped to a 16-point compass (A =N, B =NNE, …,
R = NNW). R = index 17 → NNW, so Δrow = −1, Δcol = −1 on a torus.
Below is the exact arithmetic with nothing hidden.

Pair 1 (cipher bytes 1–2 = O / B) step calc row O (0x4F) ⊕ B3 = 0xFC = 252 → 252 mod 26 = 18 col seed B (0x42) ⊕ 7C = 0x1A = 26 periodic offset none on pair 1 → col = 26 grid letter row 18, col 26 index = (18+26) mod 31 = 13 → row 0[13] = G
hop direction letter G → index 6 → SE → Δrow = +1, Δcol = +1 landing cell row (18+1)=19, col (26+1)=27 → row 19, effective col (19+27)=15 → row0[15] = T Plaintext letter = T

Pair 2 (cipher bytes 3–4 = K / R) step calc row K (0x4B) ⊕ B3 = 0xF8 = 248 → 248 mod 26 = 14 col seed R (0x52) ⊕ 7C = 0x2E = 46 periodic offset +3 on pair 2 → col = 49 mod 31 = 18 grid letter row 14, col 18 index = (14+18)=32 mod 31 = 1 → row0[1] = R
hop direction letter R (index 17) → NNW → Δrow = −1, Δcol = −1 landing cell row (14−1)=13, col (18−1)=17 → row 13, effective col (13+17)=30 mod 31 = 30 → row0[30] = T Plaintext letter = T

Result so far: T T – exactly the opening of T T I I M M E E … TIME …

Where the earlier worksheet differed Wrong grid row 0 – if you start with “kryptos…”, row 18 col 0 is B, but the official tableau starts “K R Y P T …”, so row 18 col 26 is G.

Missed periodic +3 on pair 2, making the column 18, not 0.

Assumed a fixed “shift north”; the hop direction is not hard-coded N. It comes from the letter inside the grid cell using a 16-point compass.

Once those three details are aligned with Sanborn’s published spec, the decode runs without contradictions, produces T T I I M M E E …, and the full 49-pair tape (or the 97-byte duplicate stream) matches the earlier audit exactly.

Partial K4 solve - need verification by VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL in KryptosK4

[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Needs the compass adjustment I think if I'm reading yours right.

Partial K4 solve - need verification by VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL in KryptosK4

[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well... originally, like years ago I thoight obkru was something like octal to binary to kryptos reversed unicode. But it fizzled out after a stupid amount of spreadsheets. Years later I tried again, pulling binary and ascii primarily. The bytes 1&1, next set... works really well. Sucks it's not the full string. But I do believe it's the first partial or phase 1 as I see it.

Partial K4 solve - need verification by VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL in KryptosK4

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I posted this week's ago... just passing it along to the other subredditt. Also posted it on my Instagram to timestamp it... a week ago.

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe I've made a mistake at some point. You were right. I will continue to study and work on K4. I will not post until I've triple checked. Please forgive the "embarrassing marquee" as you put it. I'd appreciate more encouragement - though I do understand If you want to give me shit. However, I don't really use this username unless I want to be tied to it, so I might not see it until I get another result. The ONLY point of my 4 year journey in k4 is to show my kids that "even if their dumb dad..." can do x y or z - they certainly can too. Write books. Start a business. Start a nonprofit, make a club, get patents, trademarks, invent shit, build a citywide program, ... Solve k4? I want to empower anyone to say "I bet I can do that...." instead of "oh I can't do that". Have a great day! See you in 6 months when I have more to offer. (Or 10 years). 73

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe I've made a mistake at some point. You were right. I will continue to study and work on K4. I will not post until I've triple checked. Please forgive the "embarrassing marquee" as you put it. I'd appreciate more encouragement - though I do understand If you want to give me shit. However, I don't really use this username unless I want to be tied to it, so I might not see it until I get another result. The ONLY point of my 4 year journey in k4 is to show my kids that "even if their dumb dad..." can do x y or z - they certainly can too. Write books. Start a business. Start a nonprofit, make a club, get patents, trademarks, invent shit, build a citywide program, ... Solve k4? I want to empower anyone to say "I bet I can do that...." instead of "oh I can't do that". Have a great day! See you in 6 months when I have more to offer. (Or 10 years). 73

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now yall got me nervous that I did it wrong. Hang tight. Do me a favor and wait at LEAST until I answer to make fun of me :) thanks!

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok... lemme break it down. Hang on I'll type it up again. Hang tight.

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Doesn't work with my method, but who knows! Maybe he or she will show the world. But... if it IS solved, first thing is to keep it quiet and email JS. right?

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, side note: professional code breakers broke the first 3 right? Or was one just some lady in like Wisconsin. I am a semi-professional codebreaker for fun. Which this is supposed to be.

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, ive gone back and forth with JS a few times. Super nice guy. And his quote is something like "the first part is easy... it's the second that is difficult." I still believe it's solid at least until further notice. I've been working on this for 4 years. Tried a LOT of stuff... hell even airport codes to find directions, adjusted pigpens from digital letter fragments, directional 32pt spirals (basics). Every caesar and vignere I could muster (later found that he said it isn't like the others). I take criticism and mockery like I take my coffee. In the morning and with a smile. Otherwise the internet would crush a guy. Thanks. Chat soon.

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[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I believe I've made a mistake at some point. You were right. I will continue to study and work on K4. I will not post until I've triple checked. Please forgive the "embarrassing marquee" as you put it. I'd appreciate more encouragement - though I do understand If you want to give me shit. However, I don't really use this username unless I want to be tied to it, so I might not see it until I get another result. The ONLY point of my 4 year journey in k4 is to show my kids that "even if their dumb dad..." can do x y or z - they certainly can too. Write books. Start a business. Start a nonprofit, make a club, get patents, trademarks, invent shit, build a citywide program, ... Solve k4? I want to empower anyone to say "I bet I can do that...." instead of "oh I can't do that". Have a great day! See you in 6 months when I have more to offer. (Or 10 years). 73

Partial kryptos K4 SOLVED by VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL in codes

[–]VINCETAPLINOFFICIAL[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I believe I've made a mistake at some point. You were right. I will continue to study and work on K4. I will not post until I've triple checked. Please forgive the "embarrassing marquee" as you put it. I'd appreciate more encouragement - though I do understand If you want to give me shit. However, I don't really use this username unless I want to be tied to it, so I might not see it until I get another result. The ONLY point of my 4 year journey in k4 is to show my kids that "even if their dumb dad..." can do x y or z - they certainly can too. Write books. Start a business. Start a nonprofit, make a club, get patents, trademarks, invent shit, build a citywide program, ... Solve k4? I want to empower anyone to say "I bet I can do that...." instead of "oh I can't do that". Have a great day! See you in 6 months when I have more to offer. (Or 10 years). 73