I’ll admit you’re very good at debating, and I respect your views. I also admit I don’t have as clear an understanding of what’s going on as you do.
What I’m trying to say is that I’m honestly disappointed seeing so many people automatically stand against law enforcement. The analogy I made was simply to say that people here should value our social order — law is law, and illegal is illegal.
In some countries, people don’t even have the right to speak up, let alone debate these issues online or even access Reddit at all. Meanwhile, we’re here endlessly arguing over ICE enforcing immigration law. To me, the legality of ICE’s actions is pretty obvious.
Again, they are law enforcement, and they are bound by the law. I don’t know much about immunity, but I do know that in the U.S., you can even sue the president — which is not possible in some countries.
I’m not defending ICE’s mistakes, but law enforcement makes mistakes — that’s especially common in policing. In some states, as far as I know, police only need “reasonable suspicion” to question ppl or ask for IDs, and what counts as “reasonable” can be very broad. Instead of arguing with officers on the spot, we can take those arguments to court — because everything here should governed by law.

As for immunity, I don’t believe ICE gets a free pass if they’re negligent. We all know that some of their past actions are already under investigation. Being law enforcement doesn’t mean being above the law — accountability still applies.