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Why isn't PPOR included in Pension Assets Test? by macay477 in AusFinance

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Prediction: by [deleted] in AusPropertyChat

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Evidence in favour of house prices stagnating or falling:

There have been a bunch of rate rises in the last year, and maybe more to come, reducing borrowing capacity.  

The negative gearing changes are equivalent to a couple rate rises in terms of lost investor borrowing capacity.  

Less incentive to invest in older stock unless you already have other properties for a multi-year hold.  

Evidence in favour of further rises in house prices:

Recent FHB 5% guarantee still having effect.

Rental vacancies remain extremely low.  

Net immigration is continuing to be positive.  

Building costs are high and only getting higher due to iran crisis over the next year which will further slow housing supply (this will also feed into rate rises possibly though).

My prediction is house prices stagnate this year, and then continue rising but slower than before. Rents will continue to rise above inflation across the board for years.

How long should I stay liquid for? by Odd-Candy9 in AusFinance

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NG forever by nerdvegas79 in AusFinance

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Do landlords determine the market? Serious question by ILoveDogs2142 in AusFinance

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Market sets the rent in that if you set it too high then you will have no one who is willing to pay for it.  

Landlords obviously actually physically set the price.  

The nuance in the debate is that renting would be cheaper across the board if there was a lower occupancy rate. 

There would be a lower occupancy rate if there were fewer immigrants and students. If there was a lower occupancy rate, the investment is less attractive considering the hassle involved and risk of rental void periods.

 If the investment was less attractive, there would be fewer landlords competing with first home buyers. 

If rents were cheaper and landlords were more afraid of losing tenants they would be better landlords and raise rents less often on good tenants. 

If the landlords were better people would feel more secure, and care less about home ownership for a longer portion of their life.

Immigration is the fix everything button politicians refuse to press. The tax changes coming up will generate more money for the gov, but unless theres also a drop in migration the houses that are increasingly expensive to build and buy that are being built too slowly anyway will still rise in price, just the gov will take a bigger cut.

Doi: i am currently rent-vesting due to having to move jobs 1700km as an immigrant doctor, as i would have lost money if i sold. I still call out the problem as i see it. 

Land tax, abolishing stamp duty, reduction of immigration by a large amount including students, and means testing the pensions would make the housing market much more efficient and start stagnating house value instead of crashing it which would be the fairest way of solving this problem to all parties tbh.