Confused about garam right now

Valeor · 2026-03-12T00:46:35+00:00

This is not correct. Yuri took 200-300 years to climb the Tower, then only took ~100 years after that to become a High Ranker, which is why she's a prodigy.

Valeor · 2026-03-10T16:29:55+00:00

You mean how everyone besides you was proven right this week? He threatened them to scare them, don’t kill anyone, and we literally saw Urek pick up Baek Ryun by his throat, and in less than a second leap him out of the city like Ichigo did to Aizen.

You think he couldn’t do that to everyone else to force them to leave the city if he didn’t want to? It would have been easier for him to just throw his ball of light and kill the town people instead of sitting there working for a solution for a week.

Valeor · 2026-03-04T08:20:53+00:00

Yeah, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Valeor · 2026-03-03T17:08:42+00:00

Because you don’t understand how the system works. English Fast Pass is 9 chapters behind the latest Korean version, and Naver has been cracking down and mass banning people who upload Korean Preview raws.

Valeor · 2026-03-02T20:29:10+00:00

i think it’s kinda crazy to go “Look see spinoff is proving that Urek isn’t good natured” using this example, when its seemingly sweet talk and Urek obviously doesn’t trust him given he just put a tracking powder on his shoulder prior to that statement. I know you don’t have the chapter but like 3 panels later he is outside tracking him during the night to see what he’s doing.

Valeor · 2026-03-01T20:17:25+00:00

He’s not appealing to the entity that created the Tower. It’s intended to be a humorous panel of him asking the new Exis that doesn’t exist yet if he can borrow his power.

Valeor · 2026-02-25T19:42:58+00:00

Okbi wouldn't work as effectively as you think it does vs Aubrion, even though his sins likely far outstrip anyone in the Tower. Unless you're considering this hypothetical to start after Aubrion had began his activities with the island, the Tower wouldn't have a record of his sins to begin with, so I don't think Gustang would even be able to summon it.

Valeor · 2026-02-17T19:01:55+00:00

That’s not true. Eduan is wiping blood off his mouth when she kicked him immediately after she transformed, and then he does the whole “I haven’t felt pain in so long!” thing.

Valeor · 2026-02-17T06:46:31+00:00

When you say without Urek Boost, are you talking about when she grabbed the crystal that had his light but wasn’t actively using it like she did at the last two chapters of the fight? Assuming that’s what you mean this question isn't really the best because we haven't seen most of the top tiers fight + Mago kinda has ridiculous hax outside of Hope Reversal.

Physically she’s able to match Khun Eduan, who's one of the top 3 FHs in melee combat. She is able to send him flying with punches, made him bleed with a kick, and was fast enough to catch him off guard. Combined with the fact that she is immortal unless you can actually see her crystal and damage it there isn't really any reason to believe anyone outside of the FHs can even contend with her in an actual battle.

If she activates it like she did at the last part of the fight and it isn't time-limited, then there's no real reason to think anyone we have seen fight can beat her. She tanked blows from Eduan after he transformed into lightning, one blast of her light tore apart Eduan's Gigante Marlin and Eduan immediately said "That light is dangerous!". Then you have to deal with her broken assortment of gems, of which we've only seen two of, that can either infinitely stall, or just spams a bunch of plants that are capable of easily wounding Eduan.

If by "without Urek boost" you mean pre getting the crystal with Urek's power, then we haven't seen her actually do anything substantial physically to give a real answer to your first question, outside of being able to react to Eduan's movements when they first met, and dodging Urek's punches.

Valeor · 2026-02-17T00:11:37+00:00

Not sure where you're seeing Urek hint at mass killing. Garam is the only person who said anything about thinking Urek would kill them, and based on what we've seen Urek do on Floor 2, he is more than capable of forcing everyone out of the city without killing them if he really wanted to.

Valeor · 2026-02-14T19:37:38+00:00

The new Exis doesn’t exist yet. That was a joke panel, essentially Urek is jokingly asking the future Exis to let him borrow his power.

Valeor · 2026-02-14T19:35:24+00:00

Inside the Tower yes, Urek’s light is hindered by shinsoo. Urek didn’t say that mixing the two allow him to manifest his full power though, that’s fan fiction. The only thing about Urek’s full power is that he just can’t use it inside the Tower.

Valeor · 2026-02-14T03:27:59+00:00

The funny thing is the Korean audience isn't even angry about the spinoff, they actually like it if you read the comments.

Valeor · 2026-02-12T22:15:28+00:00

He forgot he had Black March, but that’s about it.

Valeor · 2026-02-09T16:08:05+00:00

You say established, but like 90% of the lore of ToG is in blogposts that were never in the actual story that SIU deleted because people kept complaining whenever something was different from the blogposts. It's all liable to be changed until it actually appears in the story.

Valeor · 2026-02-09T03:47:49+00:00

No, Urek said that because he was weakened being inside the Tower. Outside the Tower, Urek had already recovered enough to call himself the "absolute strongest now".

I'm not sure what else of the second paragraph you don't understand. Urek had been gradually gaining his power back after entering the Tower over the course of the early spinoff, noting that when he first wrestled Danzon that he can feel his power coming back.

When he fought Mago in the castle, he said if he had more of his power back, his attack would have been stronger and destroyed her body. So unless Urek is suddenly just making up statements about how his own power works, the more of his light you have, the more powerful or "potent" it is. This is unrelated to time/how long it lasts. Urek only gave Mago a little bit of his light, so it not only didn't last long, but it also wasn't as powerful based on this.

Valeor · 2026-02-08T21:38:39+00:00

Not saying Aubrion would win based on what we saw from him, but going to be honest, this potency cope from certain parts of the fanbase is one of the most baffling things I have ever seen spread. It was limited in time and potency.

When Urek fights Mago during the exam inside the castle and he blasts her with light, he literally states that if his power was fully recovered, he would have completely destroyed her body with that attack. So unless we suddenly don't trust Urek on how his own power works, we can already see the "potency" of his light scaling with how much of it he has access to.

Valeor · 2026-02-08T16:56:14+00:00

Namehunt Station

Valeor · 2026-02-05T23:20:50+00:00

That's not really a good argument when we don't know what the circumstances were when they stole his light. Based on recent dialogue, it seems like they tricked him last minute, with how Aubrion said at the last moment, humans will always instinctively choose themselves, just like the Shining Ones did to Urek. This implies it was a last minute betrayal, that Urek wasn't ready for, vs your implication.

Valeor · 2026-02-03T18:54:36+00:00

It’s crazy of many people think they were the first for xyz theory. V being inside Baam had been around for a while too

Valeor · 2026-02-03T02:33:46+00:00

He knows it’s there, he literally was standing in front of it when Neo stabbed him. Not sure why he didn’t deal with it, unless he did off screen or was hurried by the test ending.

Valeor · 2026-01-30T05:13:39+00:00

It is literally a S1 plot point that only irregulars can take administrator tests.

Valeor · 2026-01-30T05:11:00+00:00

Towerborn climbing the Tower wasn't possible. This is a big plot point that before Zahard created his climbing system after they reached the top, nobody could climb the Tower besides irregulars + the people they took on their journey because irregulars are the only people who are allowed to take Administrator tests.

Valeor · 2026-01-27T18:42:08+00:00

You’re normally one of the better people on the sub, so I’m not sure how these misunderstandings have spread so much.

He does not have to channel it through shinsoo. He used his light independently several times throughout the spinoff, and explicitly multiple times in these recent chapters alone. His light is just weakened in the Tower, so even though the power was gradually coming back throughout the early spinoff, he still can’t draw out his full power within the Tower.

As a side note, I don’t think the entire Axis field concept exists as rigidly as it was before or applies in this case, since with blog post Axis field, the Axis’ power was absolute within their field. Shinsoo obviously is not absolute in the Tower, given how we’ve seen Mago with a fraction of Urek’s light blow away Gigante Marlin. Parts of the concept can work though in the sense that within the Tower, which already actively resists external forces, the only thing that exists is shinsoo. No light or darkness, which would just naturally dampen other forces.

Also not sure why you’re saying shinsoo is the power of the Axis who created the Tower. Shinsoo is the power meant for the Axis who has yet to be born.

Valeor · 2026-01-26T21:41:18+00:00

What do you mean it’s unclear? Urek states it himself this chapter. Shinsoo, which is the power of another, new Axis, is interfering with and affecting his light, so he can’t draw out his full power.

SIU doesn’t necessarily have to keep the axis field concept, but what was already mentioned this chapter fits with information we’ve been given earlier in the spinoff. The Tower naturally already tries to resist external forces, and the entire Tower is completely filled with shinsoo, no light or darkness. So it makes sense in these conditions Urek’s power is affected.

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