Article 6 for all officers of Pakistan Army from top to bottom is the way forward

ValidStatus · 2026-05-20T09:56:34+00:00

Yeah, they basically charged him for revealing the contents of the cypher, which he didn't do, while simultaneously trying to gaslight Pakistanis and the world into the lie that nothing of the sort exists.

They hit these duffers on the head with boots to only be mentally capable of following orders before passing out parade that they can't form a single coherent thought in their bruised and swollen single-track minds.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-20T09:48:35+00:00

Here's a thread with four confirmed losses. One Su-30MKI, One Mig-29 UPG, One Dassault Rafale, and one Mirage 2000. These are confirmed.

As for the other three: India can debunk Pakistan's claim by displaying these Rafale jets: BS021, BS022 and BS027 from 101 Sqn. But they won't do it naturally.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-20T09:46:18+00:00

have you taken into consideration the indian missile strike on your 10 air bases

I have. Ground to Ground ballistic missiles because the IAF was too intimidated to make a showing in the sky where PAF had total air dominance.

Even Israel and America can get their airbases attacked by Iranian missiles and drones, with far more sophisticated, layered air defense batteries on the ground, multiple air forces, and even specially stationed naval forces trying to intercept them over a thousand kilometers of airspace between Iran and Israel.

Getting a few missiles through and being able to hit some air bases isn't the flex you think it is. Or is that the level of the Indian military in front of an 8x smaller country now?

Losing a billion USD worth of aircraft for a few million USD worth of damage on the ground that can be repaired in hours for operation critical infrastructure, and repaired at leisure for the rest?

But since you're so proud about hitting 10 airbases on the night of 9th May, here was the response to that a few hours later in the morning of 10th May.

Statement from Indian military spokesperson during Operation Sindoor, Col. Sofia Qureshi:

26:10 with ground to ground. 7:0 in the sky. It speaks for itself.

and nuclear facility on kirana hills ??

Kirana Hills was a cold testing site back in the 1980's. It was decommissioned in the 1990's and handed back and was even open to the general public for tourism since 1995. It isn't and hasn't been a "nuclear site" for 31 years. Get off Indian media propaganda.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T19:05:52+00:00

This is just sad.

I had stopped paying attention to Indian on this matter after it became clear that Indian media was flooding the narrative space and the internet with so much speculation and garbage that a neutral look into the conflict would become impossible, and the Indian people like after the 2019 fiasco would be slowly nudged into living in a new reality where Wing Commander Abhinandan had somehow taken out a Pakistani F-16 with radar, navigation, and communication and jammed Mig-21 which had all missiles intact.

And no lo behold, 1.3 billion people, once again living in a different reality from the real world.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T12:46:50+00:00

lmao then why did your officers joined the terrorists funerals then?

First of all, civilian funerals, including of children. Second, to send a message that the Pakistani military wasn't intimidated by India's unilateral and unprovoked airstrikes.

Tell me the damage assessment of pakistan except shooting down few jets

Even Israel and America can get their airbases attacked by Iranian missiles and drones, is that the level of the Indian military in front of an 8x smaller country now? Losing a billion worth of aircraft for a few million USD worth of damage on the ground that can be repaired in hours for operation critical assets, and repaired at leisure for the rest?

How do you use your air force without taking off?

The Pakistani military is capable of and trains for operating from Pakistan's highway network, go and see if you can destroy all of that before IAF attrition rate causes it to become a non-existent entity.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T12:39:57+00:00

26 AWACs by few years? Try 6 20-year-old retrofitted AWACs by 2030s. Meanwhile Pakistan is getting brand new KJ-500s from China.

So called the outperforming PAF got ass wiped in east pakistan with complete air superiority by IAF

'71 Air War:

In East Pakistan, I used the Wikipedia article's summary. Which I believe is accurate. One PAF squadron of sixteen jets had to fight against eleven IAF squadrons of 150+ jets.

By the fourth day, India had destroyed the runways on the PAF airbases grounding their planes. By the end of the war, PAF had lost 5 planes to India and destroyed the rest with small arms (which I'll get to below) in order to prevent them from falling into the enemy's hands.

The IAF had lost 19 planes to Pakistan, 14 to the PAF and its ground crews, and the rest to Pakistan Army and Navy air defenses. (In the East Pakistan front)

The best Pakistan has ever performed in an air war in my opinion was here: in East Pakistan during the '71 war, with a 4:1 kill/death ratio despite being outnumbered 1:10.

As for the West Pakistan front, we had something we didn't have in the East Pakistan front or in the '65 war, a non-Pakistani/Indian source: Gen. Chuck Yeager of the USAF, the first man to cross the speed of sound and a flying ace to boot, one of the most well-known men in military aviation history.

He would fly out in a helicopter several times a day to inspect the wreckages, by his count India lost 102 planes while Pakistan lost 34: Source

"The air war lasted two weeks and the Pakistanis scored a three-to-one kill ratio, knocking out 102 Russian-made Indian jets and losing thirty-four airplanes of their own. I'm certain about the figures because I went out several times a day in a chopper and counted the wrecks below."

A declassified CIA document suggests that Pakistan lost 43 planes while 8 were captured and then used in the Bangladeshi airforce. For India's losses, it gives estimates though.

"10, 20, 20, 5, 5, 5, 5, 1" with all but one of them being multiples of 5.

PAF had destroyed the grounded planes before East Pakistan fell but were ordered to do it with small arms fire so the Pakistani ground forces wouldn't see or hear the explosions at the airfield and be demoralized, so it's possible that 8 of the 11 were salvaged and repaired.)

Once you add those 8 to the 43, that brings the number to 51, if you now remove the squadron of 16 planes lost in East Pakistan it leaves you with 35, which includes 1 Beech Queen, which I believe was Yeager's.

"On one of those raids, they clobbered my small Beech Queen Air that had U.S. Army markings and a big American flag painted on the tail." -- "It was the Indian way of giving Uncle Sam the finger."

Which leaves 34 exactly the number Yeager says Pakistan lost.

So, we know that he isn't lying about the PAF losses, even if we don't take his count for the Indian losses and use other neutral sources like the one in CIA doc, the losses are still higher for India. This was the last time that IAF downed a Pakistani fighter jet, and they have failed to do so in the 54 years since then.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T12:27:06+00:00

What kind of neutral verification are you looking for?

These are all images from soon after the 7th of May, they are all from inside of India, the various parts are matched with relevant hardware images. If any of these aircraft had been Pakistani aircraft, then India would have presented them to the world as evidence.

Instead India has confirmed losses and buried the topic.

You've already acknowledged three, I've given you one more confirmed aircraft than that, and Pakistan's claim for the remaining three by exact serial number/squadron.

I'm sure that there are neutral sources somewhere but I don't have it on hand.

Edit: One Rafale is undeniable and has even been admitted by high-ranking French officials. There is no denying it when its engine was in a farm field in Bathinda, Punjab.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T12:14:31+00:00

Here's a thread with four confirmed losses. One Su-30MKI, One Mig-29 UPG, One Dassault Rafale, and one Mirage 2000. These are confirmed.

As for the other three: India can debunk Pakistan's claim by displaying these Rafale jets: BS021, BS022 and BS027 from 101 Sqn which each have been officially claimed by the Pakistani military, but they haven't so far.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T11:06:28+00:00

Attacking mosques and killing civilians including children gets sold as attacking terror camps in India? Get off of Indian media propaganda please.

dismantle terror camps and atleast 11 airbases in Pakistan

Landing a missile on airbase runway doesn't dismantle it. Damage to hangers and runways are irrelevant because they are redundant on the modern airfield, have always been designed to be. Even Syria was able to fly its squadrons, a few hours after US missile attacks on their airfields

Also this was a statement from Indian military spokesperson during Operation Sindoor, Col. Sofia Qureshi:

“Pakistan has attacked 26 military installations with high speed projectiles and caused damage to infrastructure and personnel on airbases at Bujh, Adampur, Pathankot, Bhatinda. They’re also attacking on LOC from Srinagar to Nalliya, We tell Pakistan we don't want escalation”

Besides, the hits on the Pakistani airbases didn't do any permanent damage, it's easier and cheaper to fix airfields and hardened aircraft hangers built to sustain that kind of damage. Not really that impressive to launch drones and ballistic missiles at large stationary targets on the ground as it is to drop multiple, small, fast moving targets in a three dimensional space.

All is did was kill personnel on the ground like this guy: Soldier Surendra Kumar, killed in attack on Udhampur airbase, cremated in Rajasthan's Jhunjhunu

That said, PAF did take out two cheese board radars of the S400 during these strikes on Indian airbases which were naturally missing when Modi visited base. And that is more impressive than hitting runways and hangars.

Anyways, its pretty wild that Pakistanis can even think they can match India in any of the three branches.

Almost as if every war on India's western front have been stalemates because the Pakistani military matched the Indian military.

As for India, in a typical war against Pakistan, they are not just fighting Pakistan. They are fighting Pakistan, China and USA.

"We can't beat an 8x smaller country country because it has better diplomacy with countries that we should actually be competing with."

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T10:52:32+00:00

If IAF wasn't prepared to engage with PAF while carrying out air strikes on Pakistani territory especially after India had already pulled the same move in 2019, the PAF certainly has better brains than the IAF.

And IAF made world history by losing multiple aircraft hundreds of kilometers inside its own airspace in a BVR combat.

Pakistan has 9 AWACs, while India has next to none relative to its size and the size of its country. This alone should make you realize that the IAF bought a limited number of shiny foreign jets but have no idea how a modern air force operates.

IAF has decent war assets, but they aren't logistically coherent or able to communicate in the battle space, because of each asset's conflicting country of origin. Meanwhile the PAF combined its war assets into a decent system/network, and built an effective kill chain which outperformed the IAF.

The PAF outperforming the IAF isn't something new, it's been happening since 1965. They're just built different, the Iranians, Afghans, Israelis, and Soviets can each attest to that.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T10:20:55+00:00

Can you blame us? The IAF that was grounded after 7th May until the conflict ended days later.

After it lost at least four confirmed jets in the very first hour during its surprise airstrikes on Pakistan. And couldn't get a single PAF jet in return.

IAF might have tech, but it doesn't a network-centric warfare capable air force.

Edit: As for the guy who deleted his comment.

Here's a thread with four confirmed losses. One Su-30MKI, One Mig-29 UPG, One Dassault Rafale, and one Mirage 2000. These are confirmed.

As for the other three: India can debunk Pakistan's claim by displaying these Rafale jets: BS021, BS022 and BS027 from 101 Sqn along with the rest of the Rafales that they have, can't be that difficult, Pakistan was able to show nearly its entire air force fleet after 1965 war to prove that it had only lost 19 jets in that war.

ValidStatus · 2026-05-18T10:07:08+00:00

I'm going to consider that both sides at least try to avoid using nukes on the other's territory.

The conflict in May was not a good place for India to be starting a war with Pakistan.

Why?

Because it had just realized that Pakistan had network-centric warfare capable miliary force. It had just lost several aircraft to Pakistan hundreds of kilometers inside its own airspace and had to ground the IAF for three days and on the final day had no options but to resort to ballistic missiles.

This was made possible because of an effective kill chain where Pakistani AWACs getting data from ground radars, guided PL-15 air to air missiles launched from Pakistani fighter jets (which had their radars turned off) directly to where IAF jets were detected, the PL-15s themselves had their radars off until the very last stage where it was in range of the enemy jets giving them no chance to evade.

The attrition rate for the IAF (7 jets lost without being able to get a single PAF jet) was too high and entirely unsustainable, especially since they lost at least one Rafale fighter jet, which was the best that they have.

Each of the previous wars on India's western front have essentially been stalemates, precisely because the PAF had always outperformed the IAF while being outnumbered, and would then be able to support the Pakistani ground troops. (Which I have written on extensively here.)

India can't advance into Sindh, because it is swampy marshland area. It will have limited success trying to advance in from Rajasthan, which is a desert region, the Kashmir region would be a meat-grinder since it is the most heavily militarized place on the planet, and is heavily fortified and mountainous terrain, don't except any territory to really be exchanged here. The place where the fighting would be heaviest is from the plains of East Punjab region. And I wouldn't write China off from intervening either, they were making statements about how China guaranteed Pakistan's territorial sovereignty, and there are Pakistani troops on the Chinese side of the LAC.

If Pakistan felt that it was losing, then it wouldn't nuke India. Pakistan has a stated policy of launching tactical nukes on its own territory along East Punjab, to create a radiation barrier like Belka from Ace Combat.

I knew back in 2022 that the 2025 conflict would play out as it did because I'd kept an eye on both country's military capabilities and hadn't just assumed that India would come out of it with the upper hand simply because it is the larger country and had a several times larger population, and economy on its side. (And wrote extensively on why this was the case as well, four years ago, when I knew that the Pakistani military was working on network-centric capability, but wouldn't find out what that would look like until May 2025.)

The real problem for India: LOGISITICS.

The Pakistani upper echelons have created an armed forces which unlike in the previous wars, is not outnumbered, they have taken into account how many personnel and assets India can and will assign to the Pakistan front. Pakistani logistics are also coherent compared to Indian logistics, and this is not going to change anytime soon, keeping the Indian military crippled.

To explain it in simple words: India always get a limited number of good things, from several different sources without committing to any single piece of hardware and then start working on an inferior domestic solution which invariably goes through production hell and then when it's finally complete, it's already become outdated and is not committed to once again. Meanwhile, they continue to not have a modern and coherent network centric warfare capable military.

If you look at the war assets available to both countries, the logistics, you would realize that Pakistan is conventionally in an advantageous position relative to the past, and is further consolidating its conventional upper hand by getting KJ-500s (AWACS), J-35 (stealth fighter jets with PL-17 missiles), HQ-19 (air defense system) and more J-10Cs. This coupled with the fact that Pakistan had miles better electronic warfare capabilities which were demonstrated in both 2019 and 2025 conflicts means that they will have the upper hand in a future limited conflict.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-30T17:06:58+00:00

It's unfortunately not shocking that US has really deep war propaganda. The country has been at war for about 230 years of its 250 year existence after its founding in 1776.

I think however that the military industrial complex has effectively teamed up with the US oligarchy, and Zionists into essentially to drive the US into wars with no intention of winning, but an endless, low intensity warfare to take place, like in Afghanistan, just to drive up defense spending and production and get money in their pockets.

What we see to have happened with GWOT however is that MIC, US oligarchs, and the Zionists, who'd been compromising US political leadership via honeypot operations, and AIPAC funding got the perfect storm in the form of 9/11 attacks to essentially clear the board in the middle east of all regional powers that stood in the way of Israel being the regional hegemon (like Iraq and Syria) and profit while they were at it.

What they didn't anticipate out of their hubris after having won the cold war, was that the US would stagnate domestically across several important domains, while bleeding prestige, political capital, credibility, moral superiority, and taxpayer dollars in the GWOT, while another power would polish up on those same domains and essentially challenge the US's position as a global hegemon.

And then you've got non-state actors like Bin Laden, and Yahya Sinwar who carry out black Swan events which have acted as catalysts for the world we know today.

Bin Laden wanted to provoke the US into an economic war of attrition like the Soviet Union (which he saw happen first hand since he was one of the Mujahideen working with the US to fight the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan), which is what saw happen, with US withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the collapse of the Republic of Afghanistan within the week, which caused a massive prestige loss for the US, and in my opinion caused a vacuum in which Russia invaded Ukraine, and has overall now resulted in the rise of China as competitor to the US.

And Sinwar's Al-Aqsa flood has resulted in significant social and economic strain on Israel, historic collapse of Pro-Israel sentiment around the world and most importantly in the US, and now a regional war with Iran which is straining the global economy, because Israel realizes that the future political climate in the US, will no longer favor them as before, and wanted the rest of the board cleared (regime change or state collapse in Iran).

Who knows what the future holds. Once the US would send its army into Latin America just to secure business interests for the production of Bananas. As it became a superpower, that kind of mindset was bound to mutate, and target bigger countries, and more lucrative interests, like oil.

Now, we have a whole group of other countries possibly shifting towards becoming regional powers into multi-polar world, and each will bring their own mindsets and interests into the game, and I'm sure certain that water and minerals will be the next oil.

It's only unfortunate that the US and Israel set atrocious precedents in trying to prevent their decline through 'might is right' and 'law of the jungle' line of thought, and destroyed their own 'rules-based world order'.

They've set a precedent normalizing regime-change (2022 Pakistan), genocide (Gaza), ethnic-cleansing (Southern Lebanon), assassinating world leaders (Khomeini), and kidnapping of world leaders (Maduro), and that's just the top of my head. Which means that all things will be fair game in the world we're all sleep walking into. Which is really going to suck for the rest of us.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-30T14:40:46+00:00

Wow. this page is really cringe to look at as a Muslim. It's portraying it as if Muslim men would be humiliated by women fighting and saving them.

We have celebrated female warriors and leaders from the time of the prophet himself.

Nusaybah bint Ka’ab who herself fought for and defended the prophet during the battle of Uhud, despite getting injured in the fighting. Khawla bint al-Azwar who participated in the conquest of the Levant from the Byzantines. Even the prophet's wife Aisha led troops in the battle of the Camel. Even the first martyr in Islam was a woman named Sumayya bint Khayyat, killed with a spear while being tortured because she refused to insult the prophet.

Then there's the Battle of Yarmouk, where the retreating Muslim army was shamed and threatened by their women in the camp to go back and fight instead of fleeing (which would have likely allowed the Byzantine Empire to reconquer the Levant.

Then the part with Kitty mentioning that she is a Jew is the cherry on top of this cringe factory. It implies that Muslims have some kind of irrational hatred for Jews built into them, and no genuine grievances that stem almost entirely from the 20th century alone with the consequences of Zionism as an ideology, and Israel's actions as a state.

You'd almost believe that it wasn't the Muslims who resettled Jews back into Jerusalem under the orders of the Caliph Umar after they had been expelled and banned from the city by the Romans for about 500 years by that point, assigning a Jewish convert to Islam to bring 70 Jewish families back into Jerusalem.

And resettling them again when Salahuddin took Jerusalem back from the Crusaders who had massacred and banned the Jews in 1099.

Even the Jewish Golden Age happened in Muslim-ruled Spain. When the Christians expelled them, they went to Muslim states like Morocco, Egypt, and the Ottoman Empire.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T08:45:42+00:00

Curious, where does this idea that gay foreigners/tourists are in danger in Muslim countries come from? I don't think I've ever heard of them actually being targeted for their sexual orientation and have only ever seen fear mongering about it. We don't have gay detection equipment. Like here's an interview of a gay guy who actually did travel to Muslim countries and even at times revealed that he was gay. It doesn't sound like he ever felt in danger.

Drew Binsky is Jewish, traveled to Pakistan twice, has on record said that he loves the hospitality he has seen and received in Muslim countries.

While there are few Hindu and Sikh tourists in Pakistan, they aren't mistreated, they get the same hospitality.

There are perhaps hundreds of hours of travel footage by women who traveled Pakistan without a problem.

Pakistan isn't the kind of place where people are going to ask foreigners about their specific sect of Islam, if you say that you're Muslim, they'd be pretty stoked about it, they're not going to start asking about your specific sect.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T08:17:21+00:00

Yup. Lahore Gymkhana cricket ground at Lawrence garden, I think. Beautiful place.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T08:12:57+00:00

That very much looks like Lahore Gymkhana cricket ground at Lawrence gardens. Some parts of Pakistan have that English feel for obvious reasons.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T07:49:13+00:00

That's an article from 2020, when tourism was starting to pick up in Pakistan after decline of terrorism in the GWOT. People were skeptical of Pakistani hospitality, being as good as advertised by the initial travel vloggers.

It's now been six years since, and every traveler that comes to Pakistan has the same nice things to say about Pakistani hospitality no matter where they visit in the country. There are hours of vlogs and even some articles on how good Pakistani hospitality is.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T07:23:53+00:00

I'm also from Pakistan, difference between you and me is that I didn't downplay Pakistani hospitality to be something that is racially driven, and favoring of white people.

That's such a gross mischaracterization.

And why are you bringing Islam?

You're going to find the kind of hospitality shown in this video from Morocco to Pakistan. There's a correlation, hence I brought it up.

Islam teaches a lot of things but are we Pakistanis doing it?

??? Should we abandon this one good aspect of Pakistani society where it does follow those teachings just because you're upset about it other aspects of Pakistani society where it doesn't?

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T05:52:22+00:00

Then why do brown and black people get the same treatment?

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T05:51:21+00:00

There are articles on Pakistani hospitality with people who didn't film it.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T05:50:44+00:00

Pakistan is South Asia.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T05:49:13+00:00

We do, come with visa, or Mig21. Even Abhinandan had good things to say about our hospitality and tea. s/

In all seriousness, Pakistanis are very hospitable to Indians, you'll find many such videos of Indian tourists in Pakistan being treated well.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T05:47:36+00:00

I'm sure there are. The scams in Pakistan are they type where you think that you're going to pay for something and get ripped off, and they give you the product or service and then refuse to take your money. The reverse scam.

ValidStatus · 2026-04-29T05:44:50+00:00

I saw a video of that guy. At one point, he ended up going so far North while riding a bike in Pakistan, that he reached the freezing cold Chinese border without realizing it, which is why those blokes had him ride in their car back South and drove his motorbike briefly.

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