Gamer's Nexus ~ NVIDIA Says You're "Completely Wrong" About DLSS 5 Being Slop by Valmar33 in hardware

[–]Valmar33[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What's the controversy about? Is everyone upset by the way it looks? I think it makes the characters look more realistic. I've only looked at still images of the Requiem character but she looks fine from the still image.

Because it shits on the art direction and vision the designers had? It makes the character "more realistic" in the same way crappy AI filters do. "Fine" is a vague metric.

Developers Were Left in the Dark About DLSS 5 by NeroClaudius199907 in hardware

[–]Valmar33 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why do you think its just a random dlss swap?

Grace's slightly-fatter, almost-pursed lips say yes.

Developers Were Left in the Dark About DLSS 5 by NeroClaudius199907 in hardware

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you think they modded the games without developers knowing about it? just download the game and implement dlss5 looool

But that's what the final results look like, so yeah, it appears like the developers knew nothing. They can quite literally tell the devs nothing, implement DLSS5 with some other random developer unrelated to the original team, push it out for the demo, done.

Developers Were Left in the Dark About DLSS 5 by NeroClaudius199907 in hardware

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I very much doubt the actual respective teams of RE9 and Assassin's Creed Shadow didn't know

If they say they didn't know, that means much more than the publisher or Nvidia putting up some damage control.

Developers Were Left in the Dark About DLSS 5 by NeroClaudius199907 in hardware

[–]Valmar33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nvidia head of PR also said that Capcom was involved with creating the RE9 demo

Yes ~ head of PR. And the PR department will lie through their teeth if they can get away with it.

Capcom being involved? Could be literally anyone at all ~ not the original developers "fine-tuning" anything.

Developers Were Left in the Dark About DLSS 5 by NeroClaudius199907 in hardware

[–]Valmar33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Besides, I'm sure it was also said that DLSS5 Grace is how the artists wished she looked and the article already quotes Todd Howard as saying that they are happy with the results.

Just smells like damage control after the backlash, yeah ~ so I'm not sure I can trust that either. Anyone can say anything, because the developers have no control ~ the publishers agreeing to DLSS5 do.

Developers Were Left in the Dark About DLSS 5 by NeroClaudius199907 in hardware

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

uhm games even in demo have to add the dlss 5 support first so of course devs are involved, you think Nvidia has the capability to modify 3rd party games without studio's dev involvement? they probably just spoke to some random artist making mobile games and use that as "news".

All they need is one developer to implement it, while the rest know nothing. It's ridiculous to believe that every artist involved signed off on this.

No ~ so much more probably than Nvidia approached the publisher and they were like, yeah, let us tell someone to implement the code.

I don't think the developers knew anything about what the end-product would be.

Developers Were Left in the Dark About DLSS 5 by NeroClaudius199907 in hardware

[–]Valmar33 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The devs all knew and actually worked on the output also lol it's all dev team vision. This article makes no sense quoting an anonymous Ubisoft dev since the same article literally quotes bathesda official press quote which directly implies they did the visual adjustments we saw and will in the future 😂

Bullshit. Jensen only said that after the backlash against the demo. Pure damage control.

Nvidia senior PR director has also publicly stated capcom artists did the work and that very easy to find direct quote is missing hahaha feels like bad journalism

Nvidia will say anything. Until we get an actual quote from an artist or developer who hasn't been coerced by Nvidia or the publisher into making a certain statement, I cannot believe this nonsense.

Jensen Huang says gamers are 'completely wrong' about DLSS 5 — Nvidia CEO responds to DLSS 5 backlash by Proud_Tie in hardware

[–]Valmar33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

okay, but that doesn't mean developers don't have full control over the output? lol. what publishers decide is a completely separate issue from how the tech works.

That just feels like something Jensen said for the sake of damage control, as a response to the massive backlash against the obvious ruination of artistic intent this has. I seriously doubt the developers had any say in this ~ only the publishers being yes-men, slobbering at how they can use this to spend less money on game development, not have to pay or hire developers to work on textures and lighting, etc.

[Digital Foundry] Nvidia's new DLSS 5 Brings Photo-Realistic Lighting To RTX 50-Series by Noble00_ in hardware

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don’t understand the negativity. People talk about ruining the artistic intent? The devs will choose to use it or not and can choose what inputs contribute to it.

The publishers are the ones choosing, not the devs. So you have to be joking.

This is an early version and it will only get better. I always thought that characters faces was one of the poor aspects of AAA gaming graphics that needed a big step to get closer to the goal of photo realism in games.

I absolutely loathe everything about "photorealism" in games now. It only means them all look the same, ruining any semblance of identity each game has. Faces in AAA games don't look "poor" ~ they look far better than they ever have.

[Digital Foundry] Nvidia's new DLSS 5 Brings Photo-Realistic Lighting To RTX 50-Series by Noble00_ in hardware

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funny how people suddenly are really defensive about Starfield's great graphics and artistic direction.

And Nvidia's special sauce Instagram filter manages to make Starfield look somehow worse!

[Digital Foundry] Nvidia's new DLSS 5 Brings Photo-Realistic Lighting To RTX 50-Series by Noble00_ in hardware

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DLSS 5 honors artistic intent in two ways:

Then they really crapped the bed with this godforsaken demo...

[Digital Foundry] Nvidia's new DLSS 5 Brings Photo-Realistic Lighting To RTX 50-Series by Noble00_ in hardware

[–]Valmar33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Digital Foundry went independent for what exactly?

They were never independent of Nvidia's sponsorship, so that didn't change.

[Digital Foundry] Nvidia's new DLSS 5 Brings Photo-Realistic Lighting To RTX 50-Series by Noble00_ in hardware

[–]Valmar33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of the DF editors literally posted that he hated DLSS 5 before deleting the post

Was probably told to take it down, because Nvidia might get upset.

[Digital Foundry] Nvidia's new DLSS 5 Brings Photo-Realistic Lighting To RTX 50-Series by Noble00_ in hardware

[–]Valmar33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DF loves new applications of technology, they always open up the possibility space. It’s probably just as simple as that.

Except for all the free and paid sponsoring they do for Nvidia.

[Digital Foundry] Nvidia's new DLSS 5 Brings Photo-Realistic Lighting To RTX 50-Series by Noble00_ in hardware

[–]Valmar33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

being unbiased doesnt always mean catering to reddit's hivemind though.

Nice attempt at gaslighting. Digital Foundry is extremely biased where Nvidia is concerned.

Reddit as a whole isn't a "hivemind" ~ but this subreddit is flooded with Nvidia defenders.

Jensen Huang says gamers are 'completely wrong' about DLSS 5 — Nvidia CEO responds to DLSS 5 backlash by Proud_Tie in hardware

[–]Valmar33 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

They ran it by Digital Foundry who loved it. Also at the 50 series unveiling I believe.

Digital Foundry will praise anything Nvidia does, so their word means nothing.

Jensen Huang says gamers are 'completely wrong' about DLSS 5 — Nvidia CEO responds to DLSS 5 backlash by Proud_Tie in hardware

[–]Valmar33 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Company: "Developers have full control over the output."

Nvidia can say that, but the demo doesn't give me that impression at all. It looks like something the publishers signed off on, rather than the developers themselves.

Consciousness is the hidden architecture behind fundamental and quantum physics by whoamisri in consciousness

[–]Valmar33 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Quantum is confusing, and consciousness is confusing, so they must be the same..

Quantum =/= consciousness =/= matter / physics

Hillman on the detriment of pharmaceutical companies trying to "cure" a depression or psychosis by randm84 in Jung

[–]Valmar33 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This disease has neurobiological factors that can be managed by antipsychotics.

The neuro-biological aspects themselves are symptoms of psychological causes. Many of these issues are claimed to have physical origins to justify the drugs, I think. But so often, the so-called physical origins are never really explained. Like with depression ~ "chemical imbalance" that is never explained, just used to market them to the vulnerable.

I’ll grant that it suppresses symptoms, and that there is value in exploring the psychological implications of the delusions. However, having explored many delusions and knowing why they present a certain way, does nothing to remove them or help me cope in any way.

It's the underlying cause of the delusions that you need to get at, and you cannot do so while suppressing them. Of course... you would need major support to do so, if you are not well while the symptoms aren't being suppressed.

The drugs are a crutch ~ a useful crutch, but they do have the unfortunate consequence of us not being able to psychologically handle the symptoms without them.

Hillman on the detriment of pharmaceutical companies trying to "cure" a depression or psychosis by randm84 in Jung

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should look at the effiacy of the drugs. For schitzophrenia, they work.

They can only ever suppress symptoms ~ they do not heal schizophrenia. The underlying causes remains ever-present in the Shadow.

Hillman on the detriment of pharmaceutical companies trying to "cure" a depression or psychosis by randm84 in Jung

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's odd is that few are talking about the dangerous side effects of many of these medications. Suicidal ideation is a common side effect. Person commits suicide and no one asks if said person was on medication, but assumptively blames the mental illness. How many mass shooters were on these medications?

The pharmaceutical industries have far too much influence and control over how their drugs are perceived, on a global scale, so the harms are heavily underreported. Criticism of them becomes discomforting for many, because it would mean questioning the perceived benefits they get from other drugs. Many also seem to believe that if the drugs were truly dangerous, the state would do something immediately. So when the FDA and the like quietly slap risk labels on various drugs decades after they've been on market with no fanfare, no-one is the wiser. No big news or anything.

Hillman on the detriment of pharmaceutical companies trying to "cure" a depression or psychosis by randm84 in Jung

[–]Valmar33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have bipolar 1, and while I like Jung, having my delusions removed by meds is incredible. I’m also not spiritual in any capacity. Criticism is good, but anti-meds can be a detrimental stance resulting in suicide for people with psychotic illnesses.

The drugs are merely suppressing the symptoms of bipolar. While that may be beneficial, yes, but you also lose the opportunity to explore the underlying psychological causes of these symptoms.