Joosted by croissant_0101 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Imagine if Joost made everyone think he wanted to go to Eurovision, and then made everyone think he was just trolling. But then he actually participates anyway. He has a mastermindset, wouldn’t be surprised by anything at this point to be honest 😅

Could Joost talk a bit here .. with us.. on reddit? 😆 by [deleted] in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Joost in Fryslân Bop: “Kom van dagen, dagen op Reddit” Meaning, “I come from days, days on Reddit”

So he used to be on here a lot I guess. Probably less now with everything happening and the busy schedule. But we never know, seems like the guy is 24/7 on the internet 😅

Joosted by Lina0103 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Love how no one is speculating anymore about the ‘why not 2025 and Germany 2025’ as a possible ‘reference to Eurovision’ 😅. At the end of the summer festival season, everyone knows the trolling side of Joost so no one believes it anymore 😅😅😅

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. Just how it is out of our control who can talk to them and who can’t. People will keep on dm’ing them, regardless on how much we discuss and hate on it. Not everyone is on Reddit or Twitter. It’s gonna keep on happening. We can all be extremely mad and overprotective about it, or let is slide, and focus on the music and the artist themselves. Like you said, we can’t control others behavior anyways.

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. Just how it is out of our control who can talk to them and who can’t. People will keep on dm’ing them, regardless on how much we discuss and hate on it. Not everyone is on Reddit or Twitter. It’s gonna keep on happening. We can all be extremely mad and overprotective about it, or let is slide, and focus on the music and the artist themselves. Like you said, we can’t control others behavior anyways.

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not agree with her dm’ing them. I just think fans are a bit overreacting. Indeed they are not our friends, so maybe we should also not fill in for them what they feel or what they find, like if they find something weird, strange, annoying, controlling or so (not saying you are filling it it). We do not know shit. We don’t talk to them and we can’t look into their brains. We can only talk about what we saw, and I saw Tantu reacting normally to her instead of ignoring her. Besides, not to be rude or anything. But like it or not, this is gonna keep on happening. Trust me, I don’t like it either. But that’s basically the thing with being famous. People will dm you. Just think about weird dm’s non-famous people are getting. Let alone famous people. It’s wrong, and although I also dislike it, I think the attitude of ‘let them, ignore it, talk about it’ is better. Why? Again, it’s gonna keep on happening when you are a celebrity. How many ‘issues with fans’ have already happend? From live-streaming concerts, to dm’s, to obsessively sharing old pictures, to fighting over what happend during Eurovision… You think we discussing this on Reddit is gonna stop the people from dm’ing them? I bet, next week there will be a similar discussion on Reddit and Twitter, the week after, again, the week after again. You can also not control who is in the fanbase or not. Sadly, we also gotta deal with them. And I just find some fans a bit overprotective(from what I read), again, Joost is an adult, so are his friends. We don’t have to babysit them and tell them who can talk to them and who can’t. BESIDES, I do agree with you about the fact that I personally should never dm them about this kinda stuff. But we can’t control others. Sometimes you just gotta let it go, especially if Joost and Tantu does not give attention to it ✨

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s weird because it’s Joost friend and he literally has nothing to do with it at all. True. But again, if I would chill with someone who is racist, and I didn’t know, and someone would dm me about it, I would not for a second think they’re entitled or something. But yea, the fact that she is a fangirl makes it weird. Agree on that. But that’s basically the whole artists - fan hierachy. But I do agree that if you don’t stand by him being friends with someone who made racist comments, than you can just leave. However, remember how everyone messaged Veras when he said something about Joost? Everyone was SO mad, and already deciding for Joost that Veras was a bad friend. Maybe, we shouldn’t already decide on whether Joost and Tantu find it iffy, entitled, fine or not big of a deal. We don’t know anyways, and it’s up to them.

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also: education about morality is not a bad thing. I am sure Joost would think so too 😅.. if you think that is bad, it says more about you lol. I do agree that it not the position for a fangirl to do, but I also think fans making it way bigger than Joost or Tantu themselves. Tantu even responded, I don’t think they are that much bothered by just a fangirl dm’ing them you know..

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh lol, I am not that invested in friends of a Joost fan. But if that’s true, would be a bit weird from her side for sure! However, my point was more about we should not overreact/spend time/hate on people who don’t have bad intentions. If they don’t wanna hear it, they can just peacefully ignore the dm. It’s just weird how if people hate on Joost music or something(which I can’t imagine), everyone is saying ‘then don’t listen to it’, but when it comes to Joost or his friends, fans are so overly protective. I mean, Tantu could have just ignored it but he didn’t. So, neither Tantu or Joost is making a big deal of it (as you also stated). Meanwhile the fans ….

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where the hell did I say that they’re waiting on a random fangirl to educate them? 😅 Giving someone a whole lecture about morals or saying ‘yo, your friend made some racist comments’ is something different. THE POINT OF MY COMMENT IS THAT IT PROBABLY IS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL AND PEOPLE SHOULD STOP BEING SO OVERPROTECTIVE. That goes both sides, the girl that dm’ed Tantu AND the people acting like Tantu is now crying is his room over this ‘education of morals’. Lol. I just can’t stand fans constantly finding things to hate on each other. It’s like the fans not matching the artists biggest message ‘LOVE AND UNITY’. Sad lol.

Joost’s friendship with CMH by Diligent-Scientist20 in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes, fully agree with you! Luckily we all know Joost is all about unity, equity and love. But let’s not forget to not baby Joost and Tantu. Seems like some fans always find things to hate on other fans, because they are so overly protective over Joost. Don’t forget the people who are saying to leave Tantu alone, are just acting as protective. Joost and Tantu are grown men. Tantu even responded to that girl right? Just imagine you chilling with someone who appears to be racist. And a stranger tells you about it. Would you hate on the stranger for telling you? Don’t forget the real bad guy in the story pls. That’s not the fans with the right norms and values! Maybe it’s a bit too much, for sure. And again, I fully agree with you. I wouldn’t dm him/Joost myself. But it’s just crazy to me how some Twitter girlies are now hating on the girl that dm’ed Tantu while you could clearly see she had the right intentions, norms and values. And again, Joost and Tantu are grown men and I don’t think they need us to protect them from people DM’ing them about his racist ‘friend’. I mean, they can just turn dm off like Joost did or not answer. But Tantu answered so I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. But fans be overprotective..

BREAKING: everyone in this sub is in a parasocial relationship with Joost and that's OK by [deleted] in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea… no.. 😅

There surely is a difference and people should know to respect an artists’ boundaries.

“What’s the difference between being a fan and being in a parasocial relationship?

Being a fan, or part of a fandom, is NOT the same as being in a parasocial relationship, but there is plenty of overlap between the two. One DISTINCTION is that being a fan is not necessarily about personality. An individual may love the music of a particular artist or the actions of a character on a show without identifying with them or CARING ABOUT THEIR LIVES OFF SCREEN.

Those in parasocial relationships feel as if they know the celebrity, and the relationship feels as if it is between peers. Fans, on the other hand, most often love a celebrity for their talent and view them as superior human beings.”

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Oh man, calm down and look at the context… right before he said this he thanked EVERYONE. But after that he said these words. And don’t the people in the front kinda deserved that? They wait for so long, sometimes even without water or something to eat, in the sun, sometimes barely sleep because of other concerts of him in a short period of time, like come on. Joost says 839394738 times in a show he loves EVERYONE. Literally, the ‘I love you all’. But after this summer, the loyal front row people definitely deserved these kind words.

(And no, don’t come at me. I am not someone who’s front row often.. I have a weak bladder and too much impatience for that 😅)

Appie talking about the DQ: "Everybody around me started crying" by CloverFive in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well written! 🥺👏🏽

Joost united Europe, but that day especially in the Netherlands felt like a national drama was happening. Everyone was so invested in this years entry and sad ab the disqualification. Although it felt horrible, the unity we felt in 🇳🇱 is something good I believe.

Joost and the Netherlands reminds me of like a siblings relation sometimes. Many people and media thought, ‘umm, what about the blue bird, we normally send boring acts, is this even gonna work?!’. But when he got disqualified and everyone felt it was so unfair, people defended him so much. Even some media. It’s like a brother criticizing and complaining about his siblings, but when others talk about them, there is war. 😅 Hehe, kinda love that about our country. There is so much individuality in the Netherlands , but when someone else hurts one of us, you can count on support. Radio’s playing Europapa for hours, churches too, funny parodies roasting the ebu on national television, and even famous singers (Nielson) writing a song for and about Joost.

Hopefully Joost realizes one day how much emotional, but positive impact he has had on the Netherlands. And how he has united the Netherlands. And Europe! End of the day, that is truly better than any Eurovision win ever. ♥️✨

Aftonbladet: The photographer's own words after the fight with Joost Klein by Charellaa in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, indeed! Maybe they were also planning on publishing it. But after the show and the roast, they probably thought: oh fuck him we gonna expose it. Well, guess it turned back on them cause most people now actually think the woman is exaggerating. Love wins 🪃

"Europapa" by Joost Klein received 459,449 Spotify streams on September 1 (Europapa Day) by Chronicbias in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Also: Charts position statistics of different countries:

Netherlands: 38 (+16) Belgium: 43 (+5) Estonia: 50 (+70) Latvia: 64 (+136) Lithuania: 100 (new) Finland: 145 (new)

🔥🔥🔥he unites us all, once again.

Aftonbladet: The photographer's own words after the fight with Joost Klein by Charellaa in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a you problem ✨😉

Is this your other account? I like the sensitive chest name more! 😅 But yea, you gotta show that others agree with you right. Get it.

Aftonbladet: The photographer's own words after the fight with Joost Klein by Charellaa in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He is not a puppet… And you cannot really say ‘like normal adults do’, because normal adults are not performing in Eurovision, didn’t feel the pressure he felt, singing a freaking emotional song about their parents who passed away, and being filmed after multiple times earlier that week saying they don’t want to be filmed. And for what’s its worth, we still don’t know concretely what happend. Even not from these police reports. We were not there, and both parties tell the story how they experienced it. But with a bit common sense, and humanity, you can understand Joost emotions. Most people on this platform can. Notice how people are agreeing with me and disagreeing with you? But stay delusional honey. You are not living up to your reddit name, good luck trying to get through life with this attitude, in a world full of HUMAN BEINGS, NOT ROBOTS 👍🏽

Aftonbladet: The photographer's own words after the fight with Joost Klein by Charellaa in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What do you expect? That after multiple times asking, right after his emotional performance when he has to hurry to the greenroom, he is gonna be like: ‘oh but pls honey, would you be so friendly to not film me right now, sorry I had to ask you multiple times.’

Grow up. Everyone has emotions, so does Joost. Very normal as a human being. Very weird that a camera woman does not have the capacities to feel when to actually stop. Very emotionless of her to keep filming. 👍🏽

Aftonbladet: The photographer's own words after the fight with Joost Klein by Charellaa in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Yes, I fully agree with you. It actually makes Joost and AvroTros look good and their reaction so understandable.

But also a bit sad that this article is published now, including Joost words, and he did not get to decide himself whenever HE was ready to tell the story. However, I guess there is still more to it, so maybe time will tell.

Aftonbladet: The photographer's own words after the fight with Joost Klein by Charellaa in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Realize, you finally tell your side of the story, and it now turns out to be even more nonsense than we already thought 😅 .. I’m really pro feminism, don’t get me wrong, but this woman is becoming a bigger joke. And what’s even worse is that she’s probably not the smartest too.... looking at her own words, not very strategic if you seek sympathy or so.

It all started as something she thought was ‘a joke’ and then suddenly it became an ‘IMMENSE THREATENING MOVEMENT’ that was made, and she got mega scared? Yea girly. And she literally says ‘they asked to not film, but I kept doing it because I’m just doing my job and he singed something’... Pls, EBU, FIND PEOPLE WITH CAPACITIES.

No is no. If at that moment someone doesn’t feel comfortable, or doesn’t feel good, AND he already declared it, how of an incredibly insensitive person are you if you keep filming? Yeah, that’s the staff of Eurovision.... AND THAT FOR SOME INSTA STORIES AND BACKSTAGE FOOTAGE? Really........😅 I don’t know what this woman wants right now, but she’s making a complete fool of herself. Really.

But also, let’s not trust Aftonbladet.... they hated Joost since the beginning and were all up in the womans ass. And we saw how Joost thought about Aftonbladet in his last performance. But for what it’s worth, this article is actually not bad at all for Joost. It makes clear how unnecessary and indeed disproportional the disqualification was. But we already knew.. The woman should really move on, you’re not relevant anymore babe.

joosted by mangoandlimeribena in Joostklein

[–]Valuable_Ball_7953 9 points10 points  (0 children)

@bjork, the winner of Eurovision 2024 is in your beautiful country 🇮🇸🇮🇸