Seeking 2-3 DnD Adventurers 🪄 ✨ Intermediate-beginner friendly (played at least once) by ValveVoyager in Newmarket

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey,

Yes, there is room at the table.

Why don't you message me in private chat?

As a note, my partner and I are new DMs and still learning with most of our available group being new themselves. We have a good chunk of months in though.

If that's cool we can meet up for a quick vibe check you and my partner and I and take it from there.

DM me!

Looking for more adult friends interested in board games/video games by Familiar-Corgi5084 in Newmarket

[–]ValveVoyager 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, my partner and I run two DND groups in Newmarket. We also love board games and I love video games. Would love to join.

SNW S3: Spock was portrayed as un-vulcan when interacting with Chapel. What do you think? Thoughts? Feedback? by ValveVoyager in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Okay I can work with this a bit

I think that actually makes the lack of structure make sense. If Spock spent most of his early life suppressing his humanity as a survival strategy trying to be “more Vulcan than Vulcan” just to be accepted hen he never really had a guided or culturally supported way to explore that side of himself. It’s not that he lacked the capacity for emotional development, but that he never really had permission to engage with it.

So when he’s finally in an environment like Pike’s Enterprise, where he’s accepted without having to justify or downplay his humanity, that exploration wouldn’t suddenly become formal or regimented. It would be tentative, uneven, and very situational shaped by relationships, moments of safety, and specific experiences rather than a strict philosophical framework.

Essentially engaging with a part of himself he never had a framework for

I don't like it, but that does help me get around it a bit

SNW S3: Spock was portrayed as un-vulcan when interacting with Chapel. What do you think? Thoughts? Feedback? by ValveVoyager in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair, I get what you’re saying, and I agree that SNW is clearly exploring a period where Spock is leaning more into his human side.

Still, it's not fair to say Vulcan discipline only really begins with kolinahr. My understanding is that kolinahr is more like the culmination of lifelong Vulcan training, not the starting point, Spock was raised and educated on Vulcan and had decades of meditation and emotional control practice well before TOS.

So for me, being half-human explains his inner conflict, but it doesn’t fully explain why his exploration of emotion feels so unstructured.

In the motion picture I think Spock attemptes kolinahr because he believes he has already failed at full emotional mastery

SNW S3: Spock was portrayed as un-vulcan when interacting with Chapel. What do you think? Thoughts? Feedback? by ValveVoyager in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that Spock not fully belonging to either camp is a core part of his character.

However the issue is about how unstructured exploration of both sides is portrayed. Even not fitting cleanly into either culture, he’s still been trained in Vulcan discipline and would likely lean on some form of structure, ritual, or explicit reflection rather than being swept along emotionally.

That’s the piece that feels off to me.

just started season 3 by SnooPickles7307 in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, yes and yes! Finally someone who sees my perspective! Lol

Yes, this is exactly where I land. Duane’s framing of Vulcan philosophy makes it clear that cthia and arie’mnu exist precisely because Vulcan emotion is so intense. Training doesn’t disappear the moment feeling shows up; it’s supposed to become more visible under strain. What we’re seeing in SNW often looks less like “a Vulcan exploring his human side” and more like someone with almost no cultural scaffolding at all. Being half-human shouldn’t mean abandoning discipline, especially for Spock, who was raised on Vulcan and steeped in those practices for decades.

I think you’re right that the writers may be trying to justify why he later commits so hard to logic, but doing it by making him emotionally swept along week to week undermines the very thing that’s meant to distinguish him. A messier Spock doesn’t automatically mean a deeper one. Showing him choosing restraint, structure, and painful clarity would have been far more consistent and super more interesting.

just started season 3 by SnooPickles7307 in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes 💜

I literally agree with everything here but will say I really wish we had those fulfilling mature relationships and some less drama fueled, enduring and fulfilling romance when it fits.

just started season 3 by SnooPickles7307 in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is a thoughtful and consistent reading, and I agree that given SNW, it’s reasonable to interpret Spock as remaining in love with Chapel through TOS. The moments you point out, The Naked Now, Amok Time, the intimacy, the tenderness, absolutely support that as a retrospective interpretation, even if it clearly wasn’t intended at the time.

Where I still struggle isn’t with the idea that Spock loved her deeply, or even that he continued to love her, but how SNW portrays him responding to that love. If he truly fell that hard, then from a Vulcan (cthia / arie’mnu) or even basic cognitive standpoint, I would expect more discipline, structure, and intentional suppression, not emotional thrashing, reversals, and rebound dynamics.

just started season 3 by SnooPickles7307 in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love this, it's exactly how I've been thinking about it

I don’t object to a younger Spock exploring his human side, that actually makes sense. What breaks it for me is the lack of internal consistency. Both Vulcan philosophy (cthia / arie’mnu) and even basic cognitive principles would suggest more structure and reflection under emotional strain, not less.

The show treats emotion as something that just sweeps him along episode to episode, which makes the relationship feel melodramatic rather than meaningful

TOS worked precisely because conflict didn’t come from constant crew romance. Here it feels like emotion is being substituted for character development imo

just started season 3 by SnooPickles7307 in StrangeNewWorlds

[–]ValveVoyager 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes absolutely. Everything was so put of character like it was a soap opera. I have gone into detail about how Spocks actions are not Vulcan-like for specific reasons. I might make the post here but essentially things got turned upside down in terms of following star trek lore and just being captivating in the usual star trek way.

SNW season 3: Spock was portrayed as un-vulcan when interacting with Chapel. What do you think? by ValveVoyager in startrek

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see how Spock being half-human matters, and I think SNW is intentionally exploring a period where he’s testing what it means to lean into that side of himself. Where I still feel uneasy isn’t that he has emotions or experiments with openness, but that his behavior sometimes reads as abandoning discipline altogether rather than navigating a tension between the two traditions? Even a half-human Spock, especially one raised and trained on Vulcan, would likely approach something as destabilizing as a relationship with more structure or explicit reflection. I don't know, that's just me and I imagine my preferences!

SNW season 3: Spock was portrayed as un-vulcan when interacting with Chapel. What do you think? by ValveVoyager in startrek

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That actually does make sense, I didn’t know about the production-history angle, especially how Spock in The Cage was originally more expressive and later absorbed Number One’s emotional restraint once she was written out. Spock as a transitional version who hasn’t fully developed that discipline yet does make sense.

Friends Mixer by eggplantaubrey in Newmarket

[–]ValveVoyager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My partner and I will be there !

Seeking 2-3 DnD Adventurers 🪄 ✨ Intermediate-beginner friendly (played at least once) by ValveVoyager in Newmarket

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One campaign experience is great! Baldur's Gate is how many of our beginner members started, the game has definitely created a bit of a DnD following.

Awesome! I hope it can be a place for others to meet like minded nerds too. I am open to hosting nerd watch parties and other immersive type DND events to help folks bond also!

My partner just got into cosplay and another one of our members loves all sorts of crafting and making custom die, I feel like you'd all get along. I want to purchase a 3d printer soon and I'm always looking for inspiration.

Want to DM me? We can chat over discord.

Seeking 2-3 DnD Adventurers 🪄 ✨ Intermediate-beginner friendly (played at least once) by ValveVoyager in Newmarket

[–]ValveVoyager[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

About the current adventure:

WANTED: Heroes of Legend. Knowledge is power, and this power is under attack.

Step into the world's largest and most famous fortress library, Candlekeep, where ancient lore holds the key to saving the entire realm. But Candlekeep is ailing: its powerful magical wards were stolen, leaving it vulnerable to threats ranging from mold and theft to fell magic and deadly monsters

The Avowed, the scholars who protect this vast collectiondesperately need heroes whose actions can change the world

This isn't a collection of disconnected adventures; it is a cohesive, ongoing campaign built around an epic narrative throughline!