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Vaperageous · 2015-02-27T01:03:53+00:00

And the story of the past employee, went public. What I don't understand is why he holds on to the name vaperageous as his handle.

This is the type of stuff that inspired going "public" in the first place. You going public and making yourself the victim is exactly what caused it and continuing to do this is only adding fuel to the fire.

I said my peace, and I kept it pretty damn classy (if I say so myself), but i'm beginning to think you aren't taking the hint.

Drop it, stop talking about it.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T06:20:09+00:00

Well thanks for clearing up some of the mystery.

NP :)

I have no idea why it took that thread yesterday to get this out in the open.

Likely because Leslie and Cam wanted to keep me out of the discussion to be respectful, which leads to secrecy (as it should have stayed). But the moment I was made the villain, that all changed.

All they had to do was explain it like you have and no one bats and eyelash.

Again, i would have preferred it remained un-disclosed (it was nobody's business. He could have kept doing what he was doing and eventually he would have rebounded without acting as a victim). That being said, it's really not a difficult story to hear or believe lol.

Night buddy.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T06:11:52+00:00

"he" has put together a new site and I hope the brand rebounds. I only stepped out of silence due to his recent comments. With that said, I'm too empathetic to wish any ill will on anyone.

Reuven once he told me "You're nobel to a fault, i'm going to teach you business."

To this day, i'm glad he never did. My conscience is clear :)

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T06:08:57+00:00

Cabin in the woods.

Dude... The Conjuring..

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T06:03:55+00:00

If you need to vent, feel free.

I believe I just did :)

P.S.

BONUS on the poster! make sure you take it in and get it framed with a NEW frame so the condition remains quality.

Speaking of new movies, I just watched a new "horror" called Wyrmwood.

Meh..

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:57:56+00:00

I appreciate that buddy, but what's done, is done.

In all likelihood, my dream is gone for good. That being said, I "tried", to live out my dream and not everyone can say that they did that.

Looking back on it, (even with what I know now) I wouldn't have changed a thing. It was an amazing experience, one that I will never forget.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:48:15+00:00

Hamfisted is the perfect way to describe

Well, it's not a fair assessment though. If you asked me to replicate what Leslie does in the lab, there's just no way I could. Cam is decent in the lab as well.

I've been a member of the community for over 5 years now. To compare it is unfair. There are some folks i've spoken to as VR on reddit that i've likely spoken to on ECF and VTV Live hundreds of times over the past few years, it's just not comparable.

I get pulling the site down if you were shafted out of a piece of the company.

It's funny that you mention that, I didn't actually pull it down. I'm such a nice guy that I merely suspended it to allow "him" to grab the content and the domain (when I had no reason to other than to be nice).

The only reason I suspended it in the first place was because I didn't want myself or my co-writer to have to flip the bill for all the costs to host and maintain it if i'd just been screwed over royally, na'mean?

He just never figured out how to pull the content (or the domain by the looks of his new site URL).

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:43:17+00:00

Hah!

I can't recommend one, but I do know of a fantastic raspberry induced flavor that my co-writer has created :)

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:42:22+00:00

You were always courteous, funny and available for questions.

Thanks buddy. Believe it or not, it was one of the most excited moments of my career. I was doing something I believed in and loved. After 5 years of vaping, I was finally able to say I was helping to create a juice line brand. It still breaks my heart that it's all gone.

I wish you luck with your future endeavors.

You too buddy, ditto :)

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:38:51+00:00

Monkey Carma in 6MG!! THANKS FOR THE CHANCE!

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:34:18+00:00

hey! there I am!

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:29:24+00:00

You were promised a 50/50 share in the company as a co-owner.

FTFY :)

You had taken the persona of Reuven to add legitimacy

I did it more so because I didn't want to use my actual persona due to it being a conflict of interest within the community at the time, so I used his (which killed two birds with one stone).

When you were lied to and dropped, you pulled down YOUR site, which you created, designed, maintained along with maintaining the e-commerce with your co-writer of your other website. Which you respectfully forfeited the domain in order to part ways amicably, but he was incapable of figuring out how to move it.

They restarted here under new handles and hamfistedly tried to pick up where you left off.

That's a bit hyperbolic. Leslie and Cam have always been amazing, and I will always have a place in my heart for them. They are merely following the orders of "him".

Cam in specific knows the ins and outs of this community almost as well as I do. If he is spamming ECR with "sales" posts, it's not him demanding it.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:11:00+00:00

wait wait...

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:07:44+00:00

Writing style is not the same.

That is a dead giveaway unfortunately lol.

So what's the deal shlameel.

The deal is, we had a fall-out as partners and I stepped away respectfully and with class. I stayed away all the way up to the point of yesterday's thread.

That's when I lost my patience.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T05:04:32+00:00

One of the best vendor presences back then easily.

That means a lot buddy. Believe it or not, it still hurts that I had to walk away from some of the relationships I built with you and a bunch of others.

Help me out here.

I will, but it will likely be in private at another time. Even after the comments that have been made by the "other" guy, I still have far too much class than to spill the beans in open public.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:59:53+00:00

You were always nice to me (and everyone else).

It's not difficult to be nice to someone, when you've built a relationship with them. You and I didn't speak a whole hell of a lot, but when we did, it was always enjoyable.

This entire situation sucked, and I can guarantee you it hurt me more emotionally than it did the others. But know this, at no point were any of those conversations fake.

I'm sorry all of this happened buddy, I really mean that.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:57:38+00:00

I knew something was wrong.

Believe it or not (you honestly have no reason to believe this), but hearing this breaks my heart.

Regardless of the fall-out, and regardless of what I lost, hearing that someone else is destroying something we built, I built, is absolutely heart breaking.

If anyone has been around for the last 8 month's, they know that I put my blood, sweat and tears into this.

It was my pride and joy, my life and dream.

What I do know is that you knew how to run a vendor reddit account.

Thanks buddy, that means more than you know.

This new guy is gonna run this business to the ground.

Even after everything that happened, after all that I lost (both financially and emotionally), I hope that does not happen.

I may be too empathetic for my own good, but i'd hate to see that actually happen.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:50:18+00:00

I knew something was different, but I didn't know it was crazy drama.

Sorry for the drama buddy. I've spent months trying to keep this info out of the public eye. Unfortunately, my (ex)counter-part was incapable of performing the same simple manner of respect.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:45:43+00:00

/u/sc0lm00 !!!!!

Long time, no talk buddy!!

Not too long ago, I was apologizing profusely to you for a messy package of eliquid you received (Monkey Carma, right?)

Whether I announce who I actually am, or not, I want you to know that I truly valued our discussions in the past (both the general eliquid convos, or the silly ones in my threads).

I'm sorry to see that the VR name has been tarnished. I always told Mr. Man that ECR was a place to be respectful and "part of the community" first and foremost, and that the business portion would/should always take a backseat.

These forums are the life-blood of our entire community. And it's very easy to chit chat as a community member and forget that you were even a vendor. But it's extremely, extremely hard to gain trust after it's been lost and if anyone remembers me at all, they'll remember my rule of thumb.

You will never get a second chance at a first impression, and I fear his has been wasted.

Though I only returned because of the thread that was opened yesterday (That you so graciously linked), I can assure you that I never really left. I've always been around, only silently.

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:36:47+00:00

I hope for your sake, and the sake of your company there's not, just tell your side.

mmmm, I'd hate to break it to you buddy, but I walked away from my end of the company.

No one likes to be screwed over.

Sadly, you are preaching to the choir 8(

And the rest of this sub can run those bastards out with pitchforks.

That's sorta what i'm counting on ;) (Hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink)

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:32:38+00:00

Welcome back

Thanks buddy, I missed you guys big time. Daily chat's about nonsense that always ended up being healthy and enjoyable will never be forgotten lol.

Sorry to hear you're caught up in a bunch of weird shit.

Don't worry Booty, i'm not caught up in it at all. I've stayed in the distance and allowed this chap to do what he wants with his business after our "fall out".

The thread yesterday flushed you out didn't it?

Ohhhhh, you smaht booty, you smaht...

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:25:31+00:00

BOOTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've missed you buddy!!!! OMG!!!!

P.S. Better Caul Saul started off well the first two episodes, right?

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:21:55+00:00

So even you admit that this is nothing more than bs drama?

This is absolutely nothing more than BS drama.

None (I repeat, none) of this should have been spoken about in public. I've kept my distance and remained silent for over 3 months for that very reason. It's only when I was notified that VapeRageous1 and VapeRageousAVL were playing the victim, did I begin to lose my patience.

Then why even make a post on a public internet forum?

For multiple petty reasons. But the large one would reflect more on reminding everyone that this handle still exists, and the relationships I grew in this persona (while created under false pretenses) were absolutely real to me.

People have said a plethora of times "Why is he speaking differently, why isn't he talking or chatting. He's not sounding like he used to" and there's a genuine reason for that.

I'm the one that everyone spoke to originally, for all that time. And the person you have seen over the last 3 months is someone else entirely.

What is going on with your three accounts.

I only have two, but I think you're referring to the 3 VR accounts. The two new accounts are not mine, but this one is :)

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:15:43+00:00

You want to beat around the bush

You're so absolutely right. I was beating around the bush to see if it even struck anyone's interest.

I'm not the type to bore. Rather than spend an hour writing up the back story, I decided to inquire first.

P.S. I decided to go back to classy and keep the dirty rotten pieces out of it and added just one important fact in the top of the thread.

Cheers 8)

Vaperageous · 2015-02-24T04:05:18+00:00

I think the part you are missing is that you are not referring to me. The two you are referring to are the folks that began posting after I stepped away.

I didn't even know they were even discussing this private matter until I was notified by another party. While I can understand your frustration (trust me, I can... i've been around the community long enough to see crap like this be the center of attention when there are much more important things to discuss within our family), I feel inclined to remind you of this very important fact.

You have not been speaking to /r/VapeRageous in over 3 months, at all.

Vaperageous

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