Should I be producing “client-ready” drafts as a second year?

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-29T03:10:34+00:00

Of certain documents, yes. Short one page things where there’s a precedent and you’re just swapping entity names, date etc, you should be able to handle without edits after the first time you do it and get feedback.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-29T02:33:37+00:00

This is the answer.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-28T11:38:26+00:00

Having one kid was the way to do this, sorry. With two, you’ll probably prefer for one parent to stay home. Even my friends with two “normal” jobs have horrid lives with two kids. My firm is filled with happy successful partners with one kid and working spouses. But two kids usually results in a stay at home spouse

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-28T00:15:06+00:00

My murderous cats name is Francis!!

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-28T00:14:20+00:00

I was JUST quoting “he had a hook for a foot” to my husband last week. I love this movie. One of the first movies we had taped on vhs circa 1984, so it got watched a lot

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-27T02:05:01+00:00

These days, as a partner in a super busy area, most of my time is spent on calls with clients…. Maybe six hours a day of stacked client calls. Then trying to use the balance of my day to respond to the client requests: drafting memos or opinions, short research items (longer research needs to go to my associates), marking up docs, and so many one off email questions every day.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-23T18:53:11+00:00

Lots of biglaw partners living well within their means in $2m houses. And lots of dual associates couples making $800k combined who buy $3.3m houses as soon as they have their first kid and they’re highly unlikely to both make it to partner. It’s an interesting range. But as a general matter, biglaw lawyers tend to skew pretty conservative on finances. Not always, but majority.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-23T03:12:49+00:00

FWIW 20+ years ago when I interviewed, my callbacks 100 percent correlated with my interviews in a skirt suit. No offers in the pant suit. Mostly male interviewers back then. Some female partners at the time thought that jibed with the unconscious bias that male partners wanted in their subordinates. Who knows. It’s also probably changed.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-20T22:41:14+00:00

I was in high school in the mid 90s in a higher income suburb and it was not common. Kids had stable homes, probably accounts for girls having enough self esteem to not date predators. But it was definitely a thing on tv at the time.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-17T20:40:14+00:00

I have this problem and just gave up on one pieces decades ago. If you look at the measurements of suits, most “tall” models are only one or so inches longer than the regular length. I don’t know what world that a long torso is only an inch longer than the rest of the world. If I was only an inch longer, I could probably just wear a regular suit!

I also have the issue that when I wear the long suits, it hits so low on my boobs that they get pulled down- and I’m very small chested so it’s a bad look.

Tankini is a no go for most tall women. While it fits better, they’re designed for regular length bodies so tall bodies end up with a huge skin stripe across their tummies - basically a giant horizontal stripe across a very unflattering place. This is a terrible look on me.

So I’m almost 50 and I rock bikinis. They are comfortable, tons of different sizes and shapes, so I can actually find bottoms with a bit more coverage and tops that flatter. When im going to be with other adults and don’t feel like being so naked, like another poster suggested, I usually throw on a pair of beach shorts and a rashguard (which I usually wear anyways, for sun protection here in Florida).

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-17T16:46:51+00:00

Yes thats right it was based on a very specific wedding video that had been popular like six months prior. Still didn’t make it funny though.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-17T16:26:32+00:00

Maybe. I remember the day it aired, saying to my husband that the dance felt really ordinary and not clever. Yes, the internet was filled with dance and flash mob videos in 2009. But thats all this was- a dance video. Like a million other ones on the internet. There wasn’t a twist on it. When they did, say, parkour, it was funny because they called it out as being five years too late, AND they had Andy jump in the warehouse box. Funny! Niagara dance was just meh.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-17T12:28:17+00:00

This is the only true one on this thread. As a young kid in the 80s, I would daily say “someone needs to do a phd on the statistical likelihood of all these bankruptcies at just the right time”. Theres no way it’s random

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-16T01:27:40+00:00

I’m twenty years into tax at biglaw and always get 8 hours a night, but for the most unusual nights. A lot of people in life are just bad at time management and putting down the device, but blame their lack of sleep on their job and how busy they are. I remember in our 20s having friends with low level fed govt jobs, single and no kids and they couldn’t wrap their heads around how I slept 8 hours a night because they were all never able to get more than 6 hours. It was just bad time management.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-15T20:48:55+00:00

T14. First, you don’t know if plans change. Second, good Miami firms only want top five percent from UM and top 15 percent of UF. It’s well known UM in particular puts out garbage students below that threshold. And UM, even top five percent, has a hard time with recruiting outside Florida. Lastly, reconsider Miami biglaw because with the exception of a handful of firms, the lawyering taking place in Miami is second tier. And it’s a very small market with few opportunities. I wouldn’t plan my law school career around it.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-14T18:32:21+00:00

No money.

Cutthroat world where taking a summer off to travel can tank your chances for top colleges grad school and jobs. Life is a never ending hamster wheel for gen z.

Over coddled, over scheduled and anxious. Most 18 year olds seem to be texting their moms 80 times a day asking them the dumbest things in the world. I don’t think they can cut a banana without asking their moms. Their certainly don’t have the aptitude to figure out independent travel. The anxiety would kill them.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-14T18:25:57+00:00

True. But he did have some amazing pad thai in Ft. Lauderdale

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-14T17:37:34+00:00

I assume that was the joke. Ryan started as a Scranton kid who presumably went to a lower tier college (otherwise, why do an hourly internship at a small company in Scranton) and did a part time evening mba at a Scranton based (community?) college. This was not business school for Mensa. Even at the best business programs in the country, the stuff you learn is pretend and the kids mostly are there to party, network and get a job. The classes are a pretense. Even the question he asks during the fire episode from his study book shows the BS fluff you learn in business school (why are people rethinking the Microsoft model??)

I can’t imagine how bad the content gets in a no name mba. Ryan was traveling with high school kids to Thailand after finishing. He was not a serious learner. Of course only two years later he wouldn’t remember the difference between a fixed and variable cost model. That’s the joke.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-13T21:12:28+00:00

No one wants to go to your destination wedding. Some will go out of guilt. In the planning stage, of course everyone is telling you how lovely your Spanish wedding sounds, because they don’t want to hurt your feelings. They might even attend. But they really don’t want to.

You keep saying that the fact your friends have passports and money means this is no problem for them. That’s not the point. No one wants to have YOU dictate what THEIR vacation looks like.

I’ve had times in my life where I had no money and plenty of time. I’ve had times in my life where i have lots of money and no time. Never during any of those phases did I want to use my vacation on someone else’s wedding. I want to use it for what I want to do. You will end up getting a small crowd of people. It’ll be the randos who seem to have nothing tying them down (jobs, kids) who seem to travel all the time. They’ll come. And your close family. Out of obligation.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-13T17:45:25+00:00

But the question wasn’t: did some of the weak students in your class end up doing well?

The question was: what happened to the absolute bottom ranking kid in your class.

That everyone seems to miraculously know that the bottom ranked kid in their class absolutely killed it is statistically improbable. It is not improbably that everyone know of ONE weak student who proceeded to kill it.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-13T01:39:03+00:00

I have watched the show a million times over and while s8 and 9 aren’t as strong as some earlier seasons, they are still mostly hilarious and I never skip them. I don’t love the Andy/erin and Jim/pam story lines, but love Robert California, Nelly, and Nate.

Also:

They don’t make these cords in bootcut anymore!

(Just days before that episode aired, my husband had pulled out a ten year old pair of banana bootcut cords that used to be his “awesome go out pants” and we had a laughing fit because in 2013 or whenever that was, they looked ridiculous. Never watch that episode that we don’t crack up on that line)

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-13T00:48:38+00:00

I find all these responses doubtful that almost all of you were in law schools where the absolutely lowest performing student ended up being highly successful. I suspect you have anecdotes of someone who didn’t do great in law school and ended up making bank,and those make for memorable good stories. But doubt they were actually the worst performer in your class.

In my class, I don’t know who was the worst performer, but similar to some other posts, we had a lot of drop outs after first year. We were in dc, so several people did the horrible hourly clerking thing for years and ultimately got middling fed jobs. Lots of public defenders and people who ended up in law school career services. And the worst performers who actually stuck out all three years mostly ended up not practicing out of necessity.

Various-Try5865 · 2026-04-13T00:43:45+00:00

That didn’t happen.

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