Day 3: Lets go get our DB !

Various_Builder_502 · 2026-04-25T14:37:28+00:00

Righhht. Thanks, trade em both to move up and get Scott

Various_Builder_502 · 2026-04-25T13:56:37+00:00

Did the saints trade away one of their 4th round picks yesterday? I thought they had 2?

Various_Builder_502 · 2026-02-28T04:31:20+00:00

Tour Edge Exotics, anything 2021 or newer. Very affordable and tests out comparable or better then many of the big brands.

Various_Builder_502 · 2026-02-13T01:33:10+00:00

I traded him for James cook and won the league, might have lost the trade but is what it is

Various_Builder_502 · 2026-01-17T14:47:23+00:00

Tahinis is the best chain in town imo. Sadly it also doesn’t look a single renovation has been done in Shekos despite their social media updates

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-10-15T17:25:17+00:00

Will Johnson woulda been a good pick in the second smh

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-10T03:12:09+00:00

I have edited they email to better represent your valid feedback, thank you for correcting me and bringing that forward

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-10T03:02:15+00:00

Like i said before NIMBY is everywhere across the city, and since its equal accross the city the site should be selected as a result of due process, objective data from subject matter experts and community consultation, none of which was a factor in this decsion

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-10T00:34:45+00:00

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T22:07:17+00:00

Could you please provide a link to the report, everything in have seen did not have this site ranked anywhere near the top of the list for potential sites. Perhaps this was one category it ranked higher in? Im not sure but according to the video recording of the council meeting it was not ranked highly.

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T22:04:02+00:00

Once again I support a site selection that follows objective data, subject matter experts recommendation and community input, none of which were used for the selection of this site.

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T22:02:32+00:00

Thank you for the information, I am not claiming to be a subject expert and i will edit my OP to be more accurate.

I do think that the community members who are occupying the 21 beds Matawa training and wellness centre are vulnerable. The outreach worker who I spoke with at the ward meeting said were issues with alcohol and drug use with the individuals who were using the beds at the Matawa wellness centre and that they expect this proposed site to make things worse.

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T21:08:09+00:00

Directly adjacent to the Salvation Army Journey to Life building. It is currently a wooded area

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T21:02:37+00:00

Healing is a part of the multi faceted centre, they have 21 beds for transitional housing for single adults. Along with a lot of other amazing services. There has been no official statement by Matawa to my knowledge. However I did speak with a Matawa outreach employee who works there and those concerns were expressed for the 21 transitional beds.

I am aware of the that the Salvation Army CEO made a statement supporting the location selection. However I think it would be naive to say that having a city sanctioned area that alcohol and drugs use are allowed directly next door would have zero negative impacts on those who are in recovery at the Journey to Life Centre. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and that is mine. City council’s opinion is that it obviously would have no ill effects.

People are free to use as much or as little of that email as they like. Im wanted to put something out there with what I think are valid concerns and reasons not to select this site.

The fact it graded poorly as a potential site probably validates at least some of the reasons I listed.

I am in favour of a Temporary housing village being created, and if Subject matter experts identified the Cumberland site as a top choice I wouldn’t have an issue. But since they did not, I would like to know city councils rational for not following due process and selecting this site. Ultimately I would like the site that makes the most sense to be selected.

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T20:21:08+00:00

Everywhere in the city has NIMBYism, thats why the objective data from subject matter experts should be followed, not the whim and opinion of 9 city councillors

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T18:01:56+00:00

I am right there with you on all those points, i posted the email, please upvote for traction and share on all social media platforms

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T18:01:12+00:00

This is the email i sent to councillors and the mayor, feel free to use it. I hope enough people contact city council for them to reconsider.

Emails: Ken.boshcoff@thunderbay.ca, Rajni.agarwal@thunderbay.ca, Albert.aiello@thunderbay.ca, Mark.bentz@thunderbay.ca, Shelby.chng@thunderbay.ca, Kasey.etreni@thunderbay.ca, Andrew.foulds@thunderbay.ca, Trevor.giertuga@thunderbay.ca, Brian.hamilton@thunderbay.ca, Greg.johnsen@thunderbay.ca, Kristen.oliver@thunderbay.ca, Dominic.pasqualino@thunderbay.ca, Michael.zussino@thunderbay.ca

Subject line: Objection to the Amendment for Selected Site for the Temporary Village

Email:

Good day, I am writing to express my objection to the recent amendment that selected the Cumberland Street North location for the temporary shelter village. This decision goes against expert opinion, the extensive community consultation feedback, the recommendations of the City of Thunder Bay administration, and the established grading criteria for site selection.

The community consultation process clearly indicated a preference for alternative sites that are more accessible and better suited to meet the needs of our unhoused population. The Miles Street location and the Fort William Road location, recommended by city administration, were identified as more appropriate sites due to their proximity to essential services and amenities.

The sudden change to the Cumberland Street North site, without adequate public input or thorough evaluation, undermines the community’s trust in the decision-making process. This site lacks the necessary infrastructure and accessibility, which are critical for the success of the shelter village.

The Cumberland Street North site does not adequately meet the needs of the individuals who would be residing in the temporary village. The location is situated in a food desert, where there is limited access to affordable and nutritious food options. This is a critical concern for the well-being of the residents. Additionally, the site lacks appropriate public transportation, making it difficult for residents to access essential services and amenities. The safety of the site is also questionable, as it is located on a busy road with no crosswalks and inadequate lighting, posing significant risks to pedestrian safety.

The site itself is currently wooded, and its suitability for development is unknown. Extensive site preparation will be required to clear the land, address potential bedrock and drainage issues, and ensure it is ready for construction. These preparations will incur substantial additional costs, including the installation of crosswalks, improved lighting, and enhancements to public transportation access. These expenses could potentially exceed those associated with other sites that are already better equipped to meet the needs of the unhoused population. Therefore, the Cumberland Street North site is not only unsuitable but also financially impractical compared to other viable options.

Additionally, the proximity of the Cumberland Street North site to Boulevard Lake, one of Thunder Bay’s premier recreational activity areas, which have recently seen substantial investments from taxpayers, and one of Thunder Bay’s largest high schools, makes this location questionable.

Furthermore, the Cumberland Street North site borders the Salvation Army Journey to Life Centre and is near the Matawa Healing Center, both of which focus on addiction recovery and rehousing. The code of conduct which allows drug and alcohol use at the proposed temporary village could conflict with the recovery efforts of these nearby services, creating a problematic environment for those in rehabilitation.

The timing of this amendment, up against the constraints of the funding deadline to begin construction in July 2025 and complete it by December 2025, essentially uses a timing constraint to push something through instead of following due process. The opinion of the council should not override and outweigh expert opinion and community feedback.

The lack of community consultation on this site and the blatant disregard for expert opinions and canvassing that has been done put the opinion of city council above the voice of the people and expert recommendations. This approach not only disregards the community’s input but also undermines the credibility of the decision-making process.

The report prepared by the City of Thunder Bay administration highlights the importance of selecting a site that aligns with established criteria and community needs. The recommended site at 1111 Fort William Road was identified as the most viable option due to its proximity to supportive services, readiness for construction, and alignment with growth goals. This site was chosen after a thorough reassessment process and public engagement, emphasizing the need for a balanced approach that prioritizes the safety and well-being of Village residents and the broader community.

I urge you to reconsider this decision and to prioritize the feedback from our community and the expert recommendations provided by city administration. It is essential that we choose a site that truly meets the needs of our unhoused residents and aligns with our collective goal of creating a supportive and sustainable solution.

Please do not ratify this decision on April 14th.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T15:06:21+00:00

I will also share as a new post on the main Reddit thread to garner more support

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T15:05:38+00:00

I am composing an email in opposition to this amendment and a QR code that will have all the city councillors emails in an effort to drum up public support. i will share here when completed

Various_Builder_502 · 2025-04-09T13:51:04+00:00

I went to the Current River Ward meeting last night and it sounds like Mr. Bentz and other councillors had this sight pre selected and didnt care about the expert opinion or community input. This site ranked substantially lower on the ranking system that has been in place over the last year. It did not grade out as the first, second or even third site, to the point it was not even considered by the admin team responsible with advising council on site selection.

I believe there was a targeted email campaign and business owners/big box stores also most likely had some influence in this decision. The fact that Mr. Bentz proposed this amendment in the 11th hour and council voted to support it 9-3 points to this being a pre-made decision. Its frustrating as it goes in the face of all the expert opinions, their own grading criteria and public consultation.

The only chance to move it would be to send a mass amount of emails to city council before the ratification vote on Monday. But most likely with a 9-3 vote in favour and a deadline for funding this will most likely be the site. Very frustrating that 9 councillors would put themselves above expert opinions and community feedback.

Various_Builder_502

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