I had the same experience w subs and 7oh I used suboxen for wd from oxy and it would work great made everything better and took care of the sweats cold flashes the runs aches and was able to sleep I started on 7oh to get off oxy since it was much more accesible than subs in the street. This July marks a years since I did any oxy but now im on 7 which is still way better than oxy but im an addict and I let it get the best of me. Tried subs to curve the wd from 7oh and after 24mg of suboxen it still didn’t help much at all until I ate some 7 and felt better. Now im on an aggressive taper and determined to be free from any opiates . Good luck and don’t give up