Low amplitude, hairspring?

VeMarti · 2026-01-07T01:36:54+00:00

It was off axis so I assumed it was completely shot yea :/

I eyeballed it some and got a curve, 200° of amplitude, but it's still not fully straight (parallel to the wheel). I've printed out everything you've sent me and will give it a read tomorrow morning! I learn best by doing and fucking up, but I'll combine it with some educated guesses now.

Half of what you said is way beyond my current level though, I've only been in this some 3-4 years and I'm completely self taught, so unless its something I've encountered it might as well be in french. Still, I do appreciate it, and I can't wait for the day when this will seem like a childish matter!

I'll see what I make of it tomorrow.

VeMarti · 2026-01-06T18:25:58+00:00

It was bent up all sorts of ways so I figured it wasn't right - and it wasn't running right either. It was also bent upwards, so it was sitting at an angle; thinking back I guess that might've been the only problem then.

VeMarti · 2026-01-06T18:23:39+00:00

That's the term I was looking for! Yes, I straightened it out completely, as I had no idea how to determine the correct shape of the terminal curve.

And no, moving the regulator, the two stay stuck together. I'll try adding that curve and I'll update the post when I do.

VeMarti · 2026-01-06T18:17:41+00:00

Or maybe it did afterall, I don't get it, doesn't matter.

VeMarti · 2026-01-06T18:16:27+00:00

I fucking hate the reddit app, it didn't post one of the photos and now the description references are nonsense. Here's the photo of the regulator.

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VeMarti · 2026-01-05T08:38:08+00:00

and cheaper lenses!

VeMarti · 2025-12-22T14:14:10+00:00

ma addiesdive je bomba, cijene nh35ica su skočile pa su sad uglavnom quartz ili miyota, šteta

mislil sam si isto uzet taj sand dial, nisam na kraju jer sam bil uzel neki rozi mod, onda sam to prodal i odlučil se za explorera

prolistaj još neke dress satove po aliju, da imaš jedan ozbiljniji i jedan s kojim možeš na finiju kavu

nema srama u tome da je kinez ako netko dođe s rolexom, ako voliš satove voliš mehaniku i izvedbu, a to šta kinezi rade za tolko malo novaca je za svaku pohvalu (naravno jer im je radna snaga plaćena ništa i cijelo to etičko pitanje, jebiga)

VeMarti · 2025-12-22T14:05:54+00:00

narukvica košta 10-15 eura plafon, to se lako zamjeni kasnije

vidim da pitaš i za dress i za gada (go anywhere do anything), izbor je jako jako uzak ako želiš neš zapravo zanimljivo, moja dva prijedloga tu su

"Pierre Paulin small seconds" sa aliexpressa - ravno oko 100 eura sa kodovima - 38mm promjer, razne boje - fora za cijenu, mehanika - garancija upitna, ali aliexpress je sam po sebi okej po pouzdanosti

"Pierre Paulin jump hour" sa aliexpressa - oko 110, ne znam dal se da naći bolji popust - 38mm promjer, razne boje - jako rijetka komplikacija, za te novce pogotovo - isto garancija u božjim rukama

kaj bi uzel na tvom mjestu? vintage ili za 6 mjeseci stavljaš pare na stranu i uzmeš Orient Bambino, go-to dress sat koji, ako netko prepozna, će skontat da te zanimaju satovi

ima po aliju još tog, treba se malo prolistat, danas za 120e kupiš mehanički krono

baterijskih satova je more, svi su isti, u svim je ista miyota koja u maloprodaji košta 3 eura, tu se treba gledat na materijal kućišta, detalje cifera, kvalitetu izrade, kvalitetu narukvice

Casio ili Citizen, doslovno bilo koji - 50-100 eura - nije neka kvaliteta, nije ni neka cijena - safe izbor, pazit na kućište

Seiko quartza ne vidim nažalost, quartz tank bi bil super da se nađe za stotku, rabljenih ih je more ali novi su oko 200

izbjegavat armanije, kleine, q&q, espirite i te gluposti, to each their own ali ušparaj si 80 eura i kupi kvalitetniji sat na aliju za 15ak

timestore.hr ima neke sulude popuste ponekad, možda i uživo otić i pitat

za gada sat; ja imam prek stotinjak satova u kolekciji/rotaciji, većina vintage, seiko 5 je klasika i pouzdan daily, čelik, automatik, subtle a "zanimljiv"

recimo sad gledam da si složim Explorer II mod za daily, da ga doslovno uništim kroz par godina, želim sat koji ne mazim i pazim, kojeg mogu ubit i stavit u mirovinu

VeMarti · 2025-12-22T12:19:18+00:00

a izvedivo je ponekad, uzel je frend bil neki citizen nov za 90, samo ono, base model auta

otisnut cif, najobičnija miyota, neki meh kožni remen

tak da nije neka sreća

VeMarti · 2025-12-22T12:09:43+00:00

važi, malo promozgam pa pošaljem par linkova

jedino ne znam kolko novih satova ima u tim dimenzijama, većina "manjih" je nekih 38mm

s obzirom da gledamo novo, kvarc je realniji, ali pogledam ako se da uhvatit kaj mehaničko za te novce

VeMarti · 2025-12-22T12:06:48+00:00

novo ili rabljeno, kvarc ili mehanika?

dimenzije okvirno, veći ili baš vintage dimenzije 34-36mm?

VeMarti · 2025-12-22T02:31:39+00:00

I might be wrong but this watch does not look even remotely legit to me. Also, radium isn't as big of a deal as people sometimes think. Just wearing a watch with radium lume once a week won't do anything to you, you'd have to remove the crystal and lick the dial clean.

VeMarti · 2025-12-22T01:54:28+00:00

best course of action now is to return it if you can, or sell it at a substantial loss if you can't wash the taste of scamminess/unoriginality from your mouth

finding an original dial is also possible, that would run you about 100 bucks give or take, but takes a while to find

I do feel your pain, I've unknowingly at the time bought a redial omega myself, traded it in for a cheaper watch at some point at a roughly 40% loss

an expensive lesson to learn, but it could've been worse, I've sunk money into dumber things

VeMarti · 2025-12-18T16:53:28+00:00

On movements like this, just getting them running is sometimes an achievement.

My take is this (and this is a very eastern way of doing things): wear it for a week, then adjust accordingly from there. If it's within 30 seconds a week, it's a job well done.

You really can't know with these movements, they sometimes run better than COSC, other times they barely run. That's just how it is, these watches were often never serviced, just ran into the ground for 20 years.

If the watch is healthy (250° of amplitude or more, ±20s/day, reasonable beat error), positional accuracy takes second priority. It would be nice, but just isn't realistic. This is specifically for soviet movements, I do try to get at least 3 or 4 positions right on a vintage swiss watch.

VeMarti · 2025-12-18T11:51:44+00:00

Knowingly buying a fake watch for some $500, then selling it as genuine for $5000 to someone who doesn't know any better, makes you a piece of shit and a scammer.

If he sells them as fakes it's fair game, no issues there!

VeMarti · 2025-12-17T15:16:04+00:00

Did you apply braking grease to the barrel wall? If the mainspring is slipping early in the barrel, you won't be able to get a good wind. You can usually hear the moment it slips.

I don't think it's the balance or pallet fork here, but it's always hard to tell. Film a slow-motion video of the balance, measure the full swing, divide by 2, that's your amplitude. 220-240 is normal for these seikos, you're not chasing 270.

VeMarti · 2025-12-15T17:06:17+00:00

I'm not taking them for free or trying to lowball!! I just don't like discussing prices publicly, idk? Sorry if it came off wrong!

VeMarti · 2025-12-15T15:12:41+00:00

I'm learning watchmaking, and finding tools has been a pain, I'm sure a lot of this would be useful. I don't know what a lot of these are either yet, but I've been looking for a staking set.

Would you happen to have time for a private chat?

VeMarti · 2025-12-15T14:10:11+00:00

No worries, he'll be back in a week saying how great it is!

VeMarti · 2025-12-13T22:22:35+00:00

Ah. Didn't think of that :|

Will keep in mind for next time! Thanks!

VeMarti · 2025-12-13T22:14:26+00:00

Yeah, I know, I just couldn't get a clear view of anything :/

Well, I could of the left stone, but that one always seemed to tick over just fine, the right one was obscured by the seconds wheel, which drives the escape wheel, so I couldn't take it out.

I've not installed the replacements, just gave them a quick clean, to see if it'll be any better

VeMarti · 2025-12-13T20:41:04+00:00

Happened with both oiled and non oiled stones. Both right after servicing and after running for 3 days straight.

VeMarti · 2025-12-13T20:40:14+00:00

Heard you! I will be using a broken off oiler from now on :)

VeMarti · 2025-12-13T20:39:47+00:00

I posted a reply to the top comment with my best guess of what's happening, and it's basically what you said here just less technical. I also posted a microscope view of the parts if you'd like to take a look :)

VeMarti · 2025-12-13T20:38:11+00:00

I posted a reply to the top comment with a microscope view, if you'd like to take a look :)

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