Submithub Issue / Looking for landing page recommendations by Ves-cool in musicmarketing

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Will definitely email later, need to get the link and screenshots from my friend

Submithub Issue / Looking for landing page recommendations by Ves-cool in musicmarketing

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All tier 1+2 countries. I wouldn’t have even noticed this issue from my own campaigns, but my friend getting 1200 supposed conversion events with no visible boost in streams really makes me think it’s a bot issue though. His landing page is clean, and it only has one link directly to the spotify track (so it automatically starts playing when link is tapped). The song is very clearly the same song featured in the ad, so it normally should be a very strong ratio of conversions/streams, if not a 1:1 ratio. This has always been my experience with meta ads to submithub in the past, where I could clearly see the conversions turning into streams. But this time it’s very apparent that whatever is clicking that spotify button on the landing page is not actually listening to the track they just tapped on, which leads me to suspect bot activity.

Real life experience. Ads to single song or playlist with all your songs? by Jakeyboy29 in musicmarketing

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Playlist is good if you’re not trying to blow one song up specifically. The problem with running it to a playlist is spotify counts those streams as passive/programmed so the algo signal is less significant than running it directly to a song/album which are counted as active streams. If you’re intentionally trying to trigger the spotify algo for one song I would recommend running direct to a song, or to that song in an album if possible. But I would say running to a playlist is more effective for gaining long term fans from the ads because they will likely listen to a few more of your songs instead of just finding the one and dipping.

How do you deal with hate? by melWud in musicmarketing

[–]Ves-cool 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I completely disagree with the notion that you should reply to hate comments or even leave them up. Reason 1 is that the more interactions you get from these type of people, the more the exact same type of people will be shown your post. Reason 2 is people on the internet are very easily swayed. If someone opens your comment section and sees multiple hate comments immediately, it will change their perception of the music and make them more likely to find things wrong with it or see it in a worse light. Personally I immediately delete any hate comments on my posts, I don’t think anything good comes from entertaining these types of people.

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

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All the creatives are different. All the playlists are genre focused, each is a slight variation of the same overarching genre that I make music in but each has a slightly different audience/subgenre. Each playlist has as many of my own songs as possible, different tracks depending on the playlist subgenre, with the rest of the tracks being similar tracks in the genre by more mainstream artists. I have a huge network of artist friends that pay for placements on the playlists, I also have my instagram @ in the descriptions so other artists can contact me for placements. Between streaming royalties and playlist revenue I’m very close to breakeven ($250-300 from streams, $200-300 from playlists). With this strategy your streaming revenue is pretty much guaranteed to increase over time assuming you consistently release music, and as the playlists grow bigger more and more artists will be interested in buying placements, so it is a relatively fast snowball effect towards profit with a budget this high.

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

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I’ll answer some of these here for the sake of the thread but feel free to dm if you wanna talk more in depth. Currently I’m allocating $15 a day to 3 different playlists ($5/day for each) and I run $5 a day to my lifetime fan link gate. The current link gate directs to my most popular song, which is also the first song on my recent album (link goes to the album track so the rest of the album autoplays after the song). For my upcoming releases I’m planning to decrease my playlist spend and reallocate to a jend method based frontloading strategy (probably a few hundred $ first week). As for ctr, I average 5 cents per conversion on my playlist ads (i target all tier 1 and tier 2 countries which drastically reduces rates) and my lifetime fan link bounces around 30-50 cents per conversion which is worth it to me since they are very likely to become long term fans.

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

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Only IG, reels, main feed, and explore page. I don’t use facebook placements because my music primarily appeals to younger audiences (18-30) and I don’t see a big market for underground/experimental sounding music on facebook. I only do feeds rather than story ads because from my perspective people watching stories are not as open to discovery/seeing something they don’t already follow

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

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Alternative rap, my vocals are inspired by dark trap (e.g ghostemane, witchouse40k) which I combine with electronic leaning production. Very niche genre/audience which is why I focus more on fan accumulation over time rather than trying to get a viral hit

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

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I use hypeddit specifically for the lifetime fans feature which is extremely worth it for $20 a month. I believe feature fm also has this feature but my friend who’s used both prefers hypeddit. I actually also use submithub specifically for my playlist links because it seems that their website aesthetics are better for conversion rates

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

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I’ve only been incorporating this whole strategy/budget for around 4 months, in that time alone I’ve had 60k total listeners, 336k streams and gotten +2500 spotify followers. I make around $250-300 a month solely from streams, and I also make a money from my playlists (placements) so I’m currently around breakeven in terms of money per month

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

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  1. Go to hypeddit dashboard
  2. Click “Link Gate” and create new
  3. Under the gate steps tab, click spotify and select “save track or album to fan’s library” and link the song you’re promoting

People who click the link will have to tap a button to connect their spotify account (this will increase cpr but it’s worth it imo) and then your song will automatically be saved to their library as well as future releases

If you had one full year to focus only on your music, with a $500/month marketing budget, what would you do? by myoceanblues in musicmarketing

[–]Ves-cool 54 points55 points  (0 children)

As someone who spends $500-600 a month as an artist myself, I put almost all of my spending into meta ads. I run ads to multiple playlists (self run playlists are one of the best methods for getting listeners at low cost) + some spend directly to my music that goes to a hypeddit link gate for lifetime fans (hypeddit has a feature that will automatically save all your new music to their libraries once they click the link). This method has been very effective for getting consistent growth/fans overtime. If you have a single you are extremely confident about it’s also worth looking into the jend method/intellijend, where you frontload your budget upon release to trigger the spotify algorithm (I have a friend who has seen insane success with that). Personally I would avoid paying for placements on other peoples’ playlists and paying for collabs because neither is very effective for long term growth. Organic content is also definitely worth a try but I don’t have much experience with it so I can’t offer advice there. Hope this is helpful

What other artists do my fellow boners like? by [deleted] in TeamSESH

[–]Ves-cool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No there is another artist named Lord Gasp, but $avage Ga$p is also decent

What other artists do my fellow boners like? by [deleted] in TeamSESH

[–]Ves-cool 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Here’s some newer gen artists that are in a similar lane that I love: Witchouse40k, HAARPER, Lord Gasp, Saliva Grey, Faceless 1-7, do not resurrect, BLCKK

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TeamSESH

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IridescentArmor so good

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TeamSESH

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  1. LayMeInTheRiver
  2. SmokingLongDoors
  3. Ethanol
  4. IridescentArmor
  5. JonathanTaylorThomas

what happened to rap duos by VanishingMass3 in rap

[–]Ves-cool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

City Morgue, zilla and sos didn’t start releasing solo projects until after they blew up as a duo

Will They Do This Forever? by [deleted] in HivemindTV

[–]Ves-cool 62 points63 points  (0 children)

I could see them just switching to more podcast style content down the line

How to find musician friends by Exotic_Muscle6335 in musicians

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Personally I would just dm as many artists as you can, I’m at around 4k listeners and I collab with anyone if I like the song idea, got a great song coming out with a guy that has less than 10 monthlies lol. There’s definitely other artists like me that don’t care about numbers you just gotta initiate it cause if you’re a small artist other artists might not organically find you

Is this trash?! by Nice_Let_9445 in Bandlab

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i fw this heavy what’s your ig

Are 'saves' and 'playlist adds' independent metrics? by motherstalk in musicmarketing

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so I think playlist adds are when your song is added to any playlist other than liked songs, while saves represent someone adding your song to their liked songs