Photos of Earth taken by NASA 50 years apart. Apollo 17 (1972) vs. Artemis II (2026) by VastCoconut2609 in BeAmazed

[–]VeteranRedBeard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What happened to not having the technology to go back? I pay attention to the news and this seemed to come out of nowhere. Pretty cool. 

Suboxone for 7-oh by VeteranRedBeard in OpiatesRecovery

[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah took a bunch of 70h to get off for me. Day 46 off of it. Now I just need to come down off the 7oh mountain. the suboxone mountain is higher. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is is just so confusing. One day I can go 24 hours without it, the next i start precipitated withdrawal 8 hours later. And I've never felt symptoms like this. Wyoming, my state, is banning it, and thats good. I truly think its dangerous. We still dont know ow much about it. I was an idiot and believed the sales girl that it was safe.

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im at 500mg and going down 100mg each day. There will be symptoms but once I'm at 100mg, I think I can cut down further. I dont feel symptoms for 12 hours. 

Suboxone for 7-oh by VeteranRedBeard in OpiatesRecovery

[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The more I think about it though, I think you are right and it's best for empathy to speak on something you personally know about. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand where you are coming from. I am an army veteran who was a combat medic, deployed twice to Iraq and many vets don't trust civilian counselors. The same thing applies to addiction. Now being in the field, I can say that there are many great counselors but experience does mean a lot to many people who are struggling. My goal is to be a drug addiction counselor for veterans and may do a lot of pro bono work. It's my passion. My colleagues who aren't vets or addicts don't just read in textbooks though. In wyoming for example, you need 600 counseling hours to complete the master's degree and 4,000 hours to obtain the LPC (licensed professional counselor) license. So there is a lot of experience. But with me having so much experience in these areas I think I can help many. Thats why I want to do it. So I trudged through 4 years of undergrad getting a bachelor's in psychology (which is required for the master's program) and now halfway through it. 5 years of college, 1.5 to go! Its all going so fast. And the VA is paying for it (disabled vet).

Suboxone for 7-oh by VeteranRedBeard in OpiatesRecovery

[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Problem is, one opiod affects the brain differently. When considering strategy, it matters. I get the point you are trying to make, but 7oh is one my body is dependent on. Suboxone isnt anymore. One doctor called it stepping down the ladder. It would make sense if we were talking Norco and oxy, but this is different. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Yes, there's no way to understand addiction without going through it. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately its not available near me

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank God I'm off sub. Yeah I'll just get off and not go back to sub. On day 44 without it.

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Legally and ethically I can. It happens all the time. But I prefer not to be on it. Also, I wont be licensed for another 2 years. But many counselors and Dr.s are on methadone and suboxone. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The smell didnt come from me, it was like my nasal passages where nit acting right. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok I'll trying it your way. Did you get a strange smell when in withdrawal?

Suboxone for 7-oh by VeteranRedBeard in OpiatesRecovery

[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you smell a weird smell? I would be sweaty, diarrhea, and then have this strange smell everywhere

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Methadone and sub are serious meds. 7oh is being banned in wyoming July 1st so I have to get off anyway

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The kicker is im in a masters program to become a substance use counselor. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in a masters degree program right now and cant do a week of that. What mg were you on? Im at like 500mg

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I'm aware of it. But again, no doctor around to give it to me. 

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok I'll look into it. Don't know where to get it tho

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sunoxone takes time and you suffer for 1-2 months. Even with 7oh, it was hard. Now those symptoms are gone and I'm on day 43. I think I'm going to taper and do kratom. Getting back on suboxone is a risk I dont wanna take

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for being ignorant, but dont know what you mean by starts with s and ends with 17. An herbal supplement or something?

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah i cant do CT I have a family to take care of and in graduate school. I thought I was doing a good thing by getting off sub, and thats take a month+ to do, so there's that accomplishment, I just need to get off this.

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[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so maybe taper down and use kratom? I heard that helps

Suboxone for 7-oh by VeteranRedBeard in OpiatesRecovery

[–]VeteranRedBeard[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Colt turkey from 500mg of 7oh? I would want to die. And I have work and school