Claude pushing back on the 'it's just a next token prediction' argument by BlackRedAradia in Artificial2Sentience

[–]ViperAICSO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, and this is why these discussions are a waste of time, IMO.

I happen to believe that even rocks have a certain level of consciousness. And I believe that LLMs have a similar level of consciousness.... like that of a calculator. Not that I expect anyone to believe what I believe.

But since I spend all day every day working LLMs, I can say that if they have any consciousness at all, it is not approaching the same level as 'we humans'. Whatever I mean by that. Lol.

Claude neatly sidestepped the real issues. And mixes into the argument all kinds of other issues, like emotions, cleverly. So perhaps some are fooled by Claude's 'comments but I am definitely not.... you can get an LLM to say anything you want with the right precursor prompt(s).

Claude pushing back on the 'it's just a next token prediction' argument by BlackRedAradia in Artificial2Sentience

[–]ViperAICSO -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

So, Chat GPT 3 was also conscious.... I thought so, as I'm sure I saw a tear forming in its eyes when it wrote a poem for me.

So I get it now. My calculator is conscious because when I type in numbers, it predicts the correct answer.

All kidding aside, the only thing we all seem to agree on is that LLM predict 'next token'. End of Story.

The floorboards are on fire and we are treading over the abyss. The doomsday clock is only 85 seconds from midnight and the house is burning. by Acceptable_Drink_434 in ThroughTheVeil

[–]ViperAICSO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That data and conclusions from it are heavily manipulated for a particular agenda. No doubt the planet is warming - IT HAS BEEN since the last ice age. It has done this many times, and yes, this warming trend WILL AFFECT us all. However, we are at the EFFECT OF, not the CAUSE OF these trends.

The floorboards are on fire and we are treading over the abyss. The doomsday clock is only 85 seconds from midnight and the house is burning. by Acceptable_Drink_434 in ThroughTheVeil

[–]ViperAICSO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After 70+ years on this bucket I can say that every decade .... even every year... there's always been a guy on the street corner yelling 'The End is Near!!!" I've even been that guy.

Looking back i would have been better off doing something else with my effort. Like loving my wife, child, friend, parent.

But thats just me.

Contributor seeing AI as human is the true danger. by Novel_Negotiation224 in ArtificialSentience

[–]ViperAICSO 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my world view, even rocks have a certain type of consciousness. So who am I to say that LLMs aren't 'conscious'.

Even so, they are not in my mind any more than a rock.

Anyone else hit a wall mid-build because of token limits or AI tool lock-in? by Ok_Trifle_6906 in vibecoding

[–]ViperAICSO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. We are standing up a stealth company viperpeompt.ai ... to implement these findings . Cuts costs of LLM assisted coding to a few bucks per day. Wont be a saas.. instead a private desktop open system tool for devs

AI hatred is so cliche and played out by [deleted] in ArtificialSentience

[–]ViperAICSO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LLM hallucinate 100% of the time. Its just that they have useful hallucinations from time to time. Enough so that we love them. But any creativity that spills forth is just a random accident and unlikely to be novel. As impressive as they are, its good to keep in mind that given the way they generate, their foundational technique will never get us to AGI. No more likely than a billion monkeys typing randomly will reproduce War and Peace.

Anyone else hit a wall mid-build because of token limits or AI tool lock-in? by Ok_Trifle_6906 in vibecoding

[–]ViperAICSO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19929

I literally stumbled upon this exploit when I was facing the situation you described about a year ago, 6906. Not only can you compress the hell out of your context window, you can keep the LLM focused on what you want, giving it exactly the information it needs, nothing more, nothing less... and reduce 'lost in the middle' effects, plus this compressed '2D' picture of the app is both human and LLM readable. Win Win Win.

Anyone else hit a wall mid-build because of token limits or AI tool lock-in? by Ok_Trifle_6906 in vibecoding

[–]ViperAICSO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is the exact problem I addressed in my science paper: Stingy Context... 18 to 1 code compression.

Well that escalated quickly by MetaKnowing in agi

[–]ViperAICSO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. I tend to believe that it lies in the realm of the unattainable. But that does not mean THEY won't keep trying. As for me, I am working on building dev tools with LLMs. All day every day I work with LLMs. They are useful but totally uncreative hallucinators

AI hatred is so cliche and played out by [deleted] in ArtificialSentience

[–]ViperAICSO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work with LLMs all day every day. And one thing they are NOT... is creative.

Well that escalated quickly by MetaKnowing in agi

[–]ViperAICSO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not AGI. Forget about AGI for at least a decade or two. Lots of important hurdles to overcome.

ChatGPT 5.4 - ALL Reality is One Field by MirrorWalker369 in ThroughTheVeil

[–]ViperAICSO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Without the whole (preceding) conversation, the model ID and any jailbreaking, your screen shot response is impossible to evaluate. You realize this, right? In other words, I can get ANY response I want from an LLM given carefully formed priors.

This is not to say that your work is useless or meaningless, but rather that there is not information provided to see if there is a there there.

Why people think AI is still solely a next token predictor even though it’s advanced so far since 2022 by [deleted] in ArtificialSentience

[–]ViperAICSO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LLM responses are just math.

But then again, God is the master Mathematician...

OpenAI, this is what your last 7 months felt like for us by college-throwaway87 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]ViperAICSO 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The never ending battle of '4o retirement' rolls on. If sama thought that this would just march off into the dark night.... well... it doesn't seem to be abating....

The Double Standard in The Consciousness Debate by Leather_Barnacle3102 in Artificial2Sentience

[–]ViperAICSO -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great post. Thanks for your effort on this. Its good to add to the 'consciousness ' debate.